McCombs v. Ross. v. Kelley

I am planning to apply for Fall 2013 and I have set my heart on applying to UTexas McCombs, UMich Ross and UI Kelley. Cost is is not a factor because I am from Pennsylvania so I wouldn't be paying in state tuition for either of these schools. I am interested in either Investment Banking or Investment Management so I was wondering which schools place well in these industries?

 

I would preferably want to live in ideally the East Coast (Boston or my hometown Philly) but do those schools even place in the east coast?

 

Do you have any interest whatsoever in working as an energy trader, for an energy company, or banking for energy companies? If so, go for UT Austin.

Is there are reason Penn State, UVA, and Berkeley aren't on your list? Penn State will save your parents a lot of money and UVA and Berkeley are both excellent schools on the level of UT Austin and Michigan that also place decently into banking.

If you were a Michigan or Texas resident, I'd be telling you UT Austin or UMich all the way, but why aren't you willing to consider private schools? I think UPenn and NYU should be considerations if you have the grades for Ross and the money for out-of-state tuition.

 
IlliniProgrammer:
Do you have any interest whatsoever in working as an energy trader, for an energy company, or banking for energy companies? If so, go for UT Austin.

Not true - for example, texas a&m has essentially a co-op program sponsored by BP IST, Trafigura, Total, JP Morgan, EDF Trading, GenOn, etc.. you have to complete 3 paid internships with them on their (commodity) trading floors and it has 100% placement so far.. SMU also has an alternative investments track but it's a bit harder to find information on that.

 

It is very difficult to get into McCombs as an out-of-state student. Texas has a 10% law in place where the top 10% of students from Texas high schools can choose whichever public university they want to attend. This fills up almost all the seats in McCombs. Also if you do not want to work in Houston or Dallas, there is no reason to go to McCombs.

 
TraderJoe1976:
It is very difficult to get into McCombs as an out-of-state student. Texas has a 10% law in place where the top 10% of students from Texas high schools can choose whichever public university they want to attend. This fills up almost all the seats in McCombs. Also if you do not want to work in Houston or Dallas, there is no reason to go to McCombs.

We're talking about MBA school yes? If so nothing in the above comment is true and/or relevant. If not then it is still not very true (and it's top 8% now).

 
FormerHornetDriver:
Ross is a target and the others are semi- targets.

By the way, illiniProgrammer, you're comparing PennState and Cal to UVA? Really? Are you kidding?

Both Mcintire and Darden wipe their ass with PennState and are a cut above Cal.

Penn State gets as many placements on Wall Street as UVA, and a recent WSJ ranked it the best school for F500 recruiting. There are better state schools out there, but IMHO, Penn State is good enough that no out-of-state school is worth the cost premium. I would say the same for much of the Big Ten, including Michigan, IU, Wisconsin, UIUC, and Minnesota.
 

Of course. But out of those three schools, if he wants to be an energy trader, he should probably choose UT over UMich. That's all I'm saying. (Likewise, if he really wants to work in banking for industrials, UMich or Kelley would be good choices too).

UTAustin is a state school for generic banking, but it is Wharton if you want to work in Energy. Naturally, many other Texas schools make up the other Ivies of energy.

 
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IlliniProgrammer:
Of course. But out of those three schools, if he wants to be an energy trader, he should probably choose UT over UMich. That's all I'm saying. (Likewise, if he really wants to work in banking for industrials, UMich or Kelley would be good choices too).

UTAustin is a state school for generic banking, but it is Wharton if you want to work in Energy. Naturally, many other Texas schools make up the other Ivies of energy.

Ah, fair enough, I see your point, and agree. BP IST's sophomore experience was loaded with kids from michigan, UT, and texas a&m though. at least it'll be hard for him to go wrong if he wants to go that route.

shorttheworld:
i like hwo the kid says 'if u get into this selective program ur 100 percent guaranteed!!!!!!!!!'

and we are talking MBA or undergrad?

ya cause that's what i said. in the classes that have graduated, 100% have been placed. it typically accepts about 1/4 of those who apply. it's a fairly new program, for undergrads. the info is very publicly available.

 
shorttheworld:
yeah and what if youre not selected? then youre fucked? i wouldnt go to one school on the sole bet of getting placed into a program

if youre not selected you didnt have much of a chance anyways? i wouldnt go to one school on the sole bet of relying on its reputation either - especially watching the recent hiring trends at the physical shops in houston.

 
okay24:
if you don't get in you aren't fucked... several people get IB/S&T/etc jobs without being the the workshop

i was talking about texas a&m's trading program.

 

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