Changed jobs - some insights

Now that I am on gardening leave and doing fuck all (I'll be travelling in a bit, just have to sort some stuff out).

A few things I have learned:
- Never stay at a bank more than 4-5 years, always change.
- The equity's floor is a mad house, hours are good, people are insane (including yours truly)
- A BB name is just an excuse to pay you less, start at a BB and then go wherever (some BB will still throw money at you, but they will guarantee you in shares...)

There is only one thing that matters: Cash, cash, and more cash. The BS that is being thrown at you by big banks is fucking insane.
Shares are shit, differed bonuses are shit, promises are shit, cash is king.
Again to my point: only cash matters.
If you are good your clients will know you, no matter where you are, and you will ALWAYS have the choice for going back to Goldman and the like.

No matter how good you have it, never stay at the bank you started at for too long.
Know your competitors better than your clients (they will be the one giving you jobs...) And if you love your bank that much, if you get an offer somewhere else you might as well just use that to leverage a salary increase...

Head hunters talk crap, will use you as much as they can, and for the vast majority of them are worth FUCK ALL. You might be able to go around them but that won't change much pay wise; never believe a single thing they say.

For those not in banking yet: would I do it again if I had the choice? YES - the beginning is tough, but all my friends in M&A are now in PE or giving their menial work to analysts.
Where as for me, I had some days where I thought I took enough shit from all those ass holes and I really should quit; there probably was not a single month where I was fulfilled and happy with my co-workers.

Yet I put my time into it, and now I have an incredible boost to my CV, and i am heading to a bank where I will be developing the business on my own with no boss taking credit for my work... Just the usual sales trader / trader conflicts :)

NY vs London - does not matter. I was offered a job in NY out of London, did not take it. Again - if you are good EVERYBODY will want you. As long as you can bring cash. (Am not that good, but good enough for a job in NY, no need to be arrogant either in this job... No one likes a cock)

So repeat after me: C-A-S-H

(Now don't be an idiot, at the beginning of your career if a bank offers you 45K or 50K that really does not matter...)

 

So this is your rant from somewhere nearer the top of the mountain? Not sure what to make of the rambling ...

I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
 

Quis inventore fugiat itaque suscipit adipisci ut eum. Est ut hic non eius repellat quisquam. Aliquam nobis eos inventore sunt enim.

Enim maiores officia qui. Voluptates ut sed ipsam dolores blanditiis sed nostrum. Illum ducimus aut sint repellat vel totam dolorem. Dolor laborum suscipit in.

Career Advancement Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Lazard Freres No 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 18 98.3%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 04 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (20) $385
  • Associates (90) $259
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (67) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
9
Jamoldo's picture
Jamoldo
98.8
10
numi's picture
numi
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”