Which Offer to take? UBS, Citi, CS, MS, JPM

Hi guys,

I want to know what offer you think is the best to take from the following:

UBS Securities
Citi Quant
CS Fixed Income
MS Institutional Equities
MS Fixed Income
JPM Sales & Trading

I am interested in Sales & Trading but I am not sure which firm would be the best. In terms of fit, I liked the people at both CS and MS the most. How would you go about deciding offers from these firms?

Thanks
Deciding

 

I guess you can take out Citi if you want S&T. Honestly any of those offers are really good. Most on this board would say go for JPM and I would probably take that if I had that decision, but fit is important.

However, keep in mind that you cannot really gauge fit that well from interviews, culture is very desk specific and you may not even end up working for someone who you met in the interview process.

 

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derivstrading:
Revsly:
PM me

Trying to sway him to CS? :P

I actually dont know where you work but that is my best guess from your posting history

Haha I'm generally quite objective, I was in similar place not too long ago.

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To clarify, this is for SA position and JPM S&T is recruiting for that. I have been thinking about it and have ruled out UBS, Citi, and MS Fixed Income. I am really struggling to decide between CS Fixed Income, MS Equities, and JPM. In terms of the programs, both CS and MS are rotational whereas JPM is not. I am not sure if I am more interested in equities or fixed income so I am having a hard time with respect to that too. I appreciate any advice you guys can offer. Thanks.

 

You know one thing I heard about MS S&T is that they purposely have a much larger SA class than FT spots, so they only give offers to like 60%.

 
randombetch:
awm55:
I cannot believe people keep saying MS. Where have you been in the past 2 years?

JPM or CS.

read a damn newspaper or find an analyst there u know personally and can trust. MS is falling apart. you can PM me for (limited) dets if you want. worst mistake ive ever made. Elaborate?

 
Walkio:
Either CS or JPM. Have friends at both Banks and they love their jobs so I doubt you'll go wrong with either choice.

Now that I've been in the working world for a few years, loving your job would out weigh the money made. I hate what I do and hate my boss and I'm not sure if there is a dollar figure that would make me like it. I envy anyone that LOVES their job, I wish I knew what that felt like. Not to dread waking up every morning to go to the same crappy job. We probably spend more than 60% of our lives at work and see co-workers more than our families so its essential to like it.

 

At one point was contemplating same thing. JPM S&T is def most prestigious of your offers and is one of best S&T departments on street as a whole. With that said, MS Equities has been #1 on the street for a long time now (over 3 years). Their FI is known as much weaker and is one of the weakest FI divisions in BBs. MS is also rotational; I'm not sure if JPM is.

I'd say pick JPM and try to get a debt group because equities trading is changing for the worse in my opinion. To me equities trading is a deadend because a lot of ppl will get replaced by computers who can trade liquid equities faster and with better execution.

In making your decision, I'd say to take out the people if you like both and maybe go to a place that is strong in one product you think is interesting. One caveat, don't chase today's hottest product, because that changes frequently and what's hot right now may not be hot in a few years.

 

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