A couple Barclays questions

Hey guys,

I just got a SA offer for Barclays IBD and I'm taking it. I looked online but couldn't find how many hours/week I can expect to put in (weekends also?) and the average % of interns that get full time offers at the end of the summer. Anyone have a rough idea?

Thanks a ton, Yodaddy

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a few of my friends worked there over the summer, and they did appx 9 - 1 i don't think they ever left before 1, though, and they often stayed after

 

i did my SA at barcap and it really depends both on what group you get in and what projects you get put on. I probably averaged 90 or so but there were other interns in my group that averaged 70. The coverage groups definitely work more than the product groups and you will most likely be in at least one day a weekend if your in a coverage group. Most product groups are more market focused so they don't work as many weekends, but do have to get in earlier in the morning during the week. PM me if you have any other questions.

 

Definitely would agree with Madoff_CFO. Product groups(Global Finance) tended to average 70-85 hours a week with very limited weekends while coverage teams were much higher than that and worked one or both of the weekend days.

To echo the above post, product groups usually tend to get in at 7 AM and leave around 7 PM-Midnight(depending on what's going on) while the coverage teams got in around 8:30-9 AM and left far later. What groups are you interested in at Barcap? I'd definitely recommend reaching out to people asap because placement can be a bit...interesting to say the least.

 

Hey guys, Thanks for the responses.

I'm not sure what you mean by product vs. coverage groups? I applied for IBD in general and that's what I'm doing...do I get placed into a subgroup that's either in products or coverage...?

Also, how would I go about influencing which group I'm put into after I figure out which I want?

Anyone have figures on what % got full time offers?

Thanks again, Yodaddy

 

Jesus....how do people get offers without knowing the difference between product and coverage groups?? At least tell me you're from a core school, yodaddy.....

 

What do you mean their group selection can be interesting? I'm starting FT there in July and they said most people get one of their top 3 picks. Also from people who have worked there before... Do they have an m&a group or is it just a team of senior people who do deals. One of the people I interviewed with was a Director in the M&A group and his card even said that. And theres def been a lot of conflicting answers on here about that.

 
apple1634What do you mean their group selection can be interesting? I'm starting FT there in July and they said most people get one of their top 3 picks. Also from people who have worked there before... Do they have an m&a group or is it just a team of senior people who do deals. One of the people I interviewed with was a Director in the M&A group and his card even said that. And theres def been a lot of conflicting answers on here about that.
Haha I know exactly what you mean. There isn't an exact M&A group a la JPM, MS, etc. Instead each coverage team does M&A within the group. For example, there are Tech M&A analysts, associates, directors, etc. Same for CMG, Industrials, Nat Res, etc with the exception of FIG and Real Estate. This obviously doesn't happen with summers but if you're a FT analyst and become an M&A analyst, you're "technically" part of the M&A group but just within your certain coverage team. With regards to the director who interviewed you, it's possible he was part of the Exclusive Sales group, which does MM M&A if I remember right. But yeah, overall, Barcap does not have a separate M&A group like some of the other bulge brackets.

Also, to answer your question about group selection, I meant "interesting" in the sense that I've heard of analysts being placed in groups that they didn't rank. I think this is something that definitely happens(100% sure of this actually...it might not be widespread but it DOES happen) and probably occurs across all banks not just Barcap.

 

Sample product groups at Barcap(which are under the umbrella of Global Finance) are Debt Capital Markets, Equity Capital Markets, Equity-Linked Hybrid Securities, Asset Securitization, Leveraged Finance, Restructuring etc.

Sample coverage groups are Industrials, Natural Resources, Comm&Media, Tech, FIG(Financial Institutions Group), Consumer, Retail, Healthcare, Real Estate,Exclusive Sales etc.

Not sure what you mean by a "subgroup" but basically you'll be placed into one of the above groups(not an all-inclusive list but you get the idea). With regards to influencing group placement, you'll get asked to choose 5 Coverage groups and 3 Global Finance groups that you're interested in as it gets closer to your start date. In terms of "influencing" your placement, I would recommend reaching out to alumni and interviewers that are in groups you're interested in. Try and get insight into group culture and also express your interest so that when resumes are passed out, your name jumps out.

No idea on % of FT offers but Barcap has a good culture so if you go in with a good attitude, do your job well, and show interest in the field you should be fine.

 

Lehman Brothers had a big emphasis on getting a lot of the analyst full-time class from the summer analysts, and it seems like Barclays is continuing the trend. For the most part the offer is yours to lose over the summer, especially following a year where the banks didn't do a lot of hiring

 

@Nimz,

Thanks for the stat. My sense is that Barclays is higher than most but I'd love to see more data from years past (hard to judge on just one data point.) Any thoughts on where I can get this? I suppose I can just ask them...

Also, where can I get educated about product/coverage groups? I'd like to figure out my preferences instead of getting randomly placed.

Thanks again

 

Agree with above poster, 85% sounds about right...really your job to lose, just work hard and understand its really only for 9 weeks (1 week training that won't really effect offer one way or another). In regards to group placement, if you have any alumni in certain groups you are interested in I would try to reach out to them. This probably will only help if the alumni are associates and up as they are the ones usually making the decision, but always worth a try. Most of the time, I think its just whose resume they like and of course the better groups always get first pick on summers. Understand which groups are biggest/smallest as to not put down all small groups that only take 1-2 summers (retail, sponsors, smaller product groups) because that will limit your chances of getting one of your picks. Hope this helps.

 

I also have an offer from BarCap for a SA IBD position... I want to get into a group that has a good track record within the firm. Do you know what groups are the best?

 

Above post is correct. Power is also a very good group, would probably put it top 2-3 in the bank after natty res and maybe CMG. Industrials is also decent.

 

Sooo when I'm selecting groups could I select M&a group within tech or is that like a type of promotion? For example, first I'd get into the tech group, then I'd get chosen for strictly their m&a. And as far as the interesting group thing, I just want to make sure I don't get stuck in ecm, dcm or their Risk Solutions group which is apparently a part of their IBD. I'd like to get into PE or a distressed debt fund after this.

 

I feel like people definitely get placed in groups they don't want to be in, or didn't rank as they're top 3. Just think about numbers, everyone knows what the top groups are and very few people are going to rank risk solutions as #1 or a lot of the product groups for that matter. In response to the M&A question, you basically voice that M&A is something that you would be interested in and whether you get it within your coverage group just depends on your training test scores, whether they like you, etc.

 

Damn I did not know training was that important. I have 2 contacts there in different coverage groups. I was hoping to not join there groups, but should I continue to speak with them for a back up plan?

 
apple1634Damn I did not know training was that important. I have 2 contacts there in different coverage groups. I was hoping to not join there groups, but should I continue to speak with them for a back up plan?
Definitely network with as many people as possible. If you're already set on PE or a distressed fund after your two year stint, then coverage>global finance within Barcap(with maybe the exception of LevFin or Restructuring but don't quote me on that). Also, Barcap excels at DCM and RSG(Risk Solutions) but again, if you're interested in PE afterwards, not sure if this is the way to go. To answer your other question about FT placement, from what I've heard, Madoff_CFO is correct. Basically you select the coverage teams you're interested in and you can also indicate whether you want to be M&A focused. Whether or not you get it depends on how you do during training and networking.
 
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Diamondswhere does BarCap stack up vs. the other BB's??
My personal ranking of the BBs (based on 2009 as a whole and mostly on M&A) [please don't flame me... it's an opinion]:

Tier 1: GS / JPM / MS Tier 2: BAML / C / UBS / CS / DB / BarCap

BarCap maybe moves up within tier two because it did as much in deal value as UBS and DB with a far fewer number of deals.

 

hey diamond & yodaddy,

IBD in which region? Is it asia? singapore? or HK?

I have been interviewed by a MD and he replied my thank you mail sayign he will give me a follow up call by end of the week. but its end of the week and he has yet to have done so.

how did u guys get yr offer?

 

Hi all,

I just got an SA offer with BarCap Hong Kong. Was wondering how BarCap is regarded in Asia-- I just know it's been hiring very aggressively the past year. Also, what are the best groups in HK? Are they the same ones as in US?

Thanks a lot!

xx

 

When I went there for a summer I only put one group down as my top choice and nothing else. Pretty risky, but I got into the best group at the bank. It also helps that my best interview for final rounds was with somebody from that group.

 

I didn't even have a face-to-face interview. 4 phone interviews ( 2 junior bankers 2 MDs). Got the offer a week later by email. This was for IBD in Hong Kong by the way.

 

I also have a question. How's the prospects for BarCap Energy/Natural Resources group in Calgary, Canada office? How well is it regarded for future PE placements? Thanks

 

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