Best Event Driven Funds
Can someone help me with a list of the best event driven funds in the US? More specifically the best merger/risk arb. Or some knowledge on where to find this type of information. Thanks in advance.
Can someone help me with a list of the best event driven funds in the US? More specifically the best merger/risk arb. Or some knowledge on where to find this type of information. Thanks in advance.
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paulson has arguably the best
thx, kinda knew that tho. i guess a list of all of them would be great.. any knowledge of how i can find?
Here are some good ones, but I'm not sure they are the best:
Paulson Third Point Eton Park
You can check here for yourself: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/septembers-hedge-fund-winners-and-lose…
linkedin paulson&co employees.. almost all of them are harvard jd/mba. do i even have a fuckin shot? fuck
Those fund returns pieces are all self reported, and many don't report, regardless of performance.
Getting a job at any fund is far more about networking than pedigree. Most don't formally recruit so only those in-the-know find out about openings.
I was a political science major living in Texas with 3 years non-bb sales trading experience and I got an offer from a $5b ed fund in new York, just because they were a client and liked me. There is always a job, and never a job.
thanks @cartwright....
Currently a senior recruiting for IB then lateral to a fund (after 2 years)..
Event Driven Funds (Originally Posted: 05/04/2010)
It appears that there aren't any many mega ED funds out there - Paulsen aside. Why do you think this is and what do you guys think about the strategy?
Are or aren't?
Cant we use critical reasoning and context to assume he meant "aren't"? There are plenty of funds out there who invest assets on an opportunistic basis driven by IPO, M&A activity, global events, scandals, new product launches, etc. that dont necessarily label themselves event driven funds. The strategy only works if you believe in market inefficiencies and the superior knowledge or asymmetrical information.
Relax dude, I thought it said "are" as opposed to "any" hence wasn't entirely sure where the op was going. In any case, a lot of big multistrat funds grew out of event-driven backgrounds and still devote a lot of money to that area. I'm talking funds like Och-Ziff, Farallon, Perry, Davidson-Kempner, Stark etc.. Definitely an interesting area and an ideal one for former IBers given the focus on transactions. IMO, the strength of multistrat funds with an event-driven slant is the ability to invest across asset classes and business cycles: distressed debt during the last two years, merger arb until the next downturn..
I was reading a chart recently that compared monthly losses to monthly gains of strategies. Ed funds,averaged out, are expected to slightly lose each month,and was the worst performing strategy on the chart.
Sorry guys, I meant "aren't" - now fixed.
Ed funds seem pretty interesting but the point fhurricane makes is something that I have also found through my research. Initially I was pretty keen on the strategy but the more reading I do the more start to think that they are maybe more sexy than profitable and much of their appeal stems from the post-IB match and my hasty ambitions to be a billionaire. And the returns these merger arb strategies make are very small - especially when you exclude the misleading annualised rates - and risky as! The real money looks like it is in global macro - something a lot harder to get into post-IB and probably way beyond me.
Hmm, a lot of the research i've read (pre- crash) showed ED funds as some of the best-performing. I think the funds who do the best long-term are those that are either agnostic to market conditions (market neutral, stat arb..) or those that take advantage of business cycles (global macro, multistrat ED (so including distressed)).
According to some people, global macro doesn't necessarily exclude ED strategies, but make them one of among many strategies. At some big funds, ED might just be part of a bigger picture.
If you want examples of people who made billions off event-driven strategies, look up Seth Klarman and Dan Och.
I don't think any particular HF strategy can be acclaimed as the 'best'. Some funds have better people than others and will thus outperform over time, some (see at least half of alll HFs pre-2007) are basically run by chancers who are effectively either long vol or short vol and will eventually crash and burn, or at least underperform.
Personally I'd be wary about putting my money in an ED fund due to the high leverage required and thus potential for a catastrophic trade - but that doesn't mean such funds can't be extremely profitable when run by the right fund managers
I gotta disagree. I think event-driven funds make for the best strategy for two reasons:
These two aspects are paramount in this business as investors are quick to leave if you have even a few consecutive down / flat months. ED works in the hedge fund format because trades generally have an absolute profit with limited downside within a brief timeframe. Another beneficial aspect is that ED has many different strategies within it - merger arb, activist, relative value arb, dividend strategies, capital structure arb, etc., giving a manager a large box to work from. This is how Buffett ran his hedge fund (BPL) and how many managers today emulate it (Third Point, Pershing Square, etc.)
And ED funds do not use a lot of leverage (relatively speaking), unlike quant, global macro or managed futures.
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