1/22/17

Hi all,

I will be interning at MS this summer for IBD and I have the group selection phase coming up. I am wondering if anyone can comment on the various IBD groups at MS regarding their culture, exit opps, hours, return offer rate, etc. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Also, if anyone has tips regarding how to best position myself for the selection process, I am open to advice!

Thanks a lot.

**Please, before you reply saying there are already threads on this, do your research - they are extremely outdated with the exception of one recent one, which wasn't even fully informative.

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1/14/17

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1/16/17

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1/17/17

Which office?

1/17/17

NYC

1/20/17

M&A, Media Com, Services, FSG

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1/17/17

1) Nat Res
2) FIG
3) Pubfin
4) M&A
5) Tech
6) Industrials
7) All Else

1/17/17

What are your reasons? I've heard a lot about how Media & Comm is a top group and you didn't list it in your top 6.

1/17/17
NY_Giantz:

1) Nat Res2) FIG3) Pubfin4) M&A5) Tech6) Industrials7) All Else

not sure if srs...

To the OP, what are your long-term goals? And are you industry-agnostic at this point?

1/17/17

I am primarily thinking private equity long-term.

Yes, I am industry-agnostic as of right now but I do have some preferences which I will certainly take into account. For the sake of the thread though, in order to have unbiased opinion and to help others who are viewing this as well, I am curious to hear people's opinions when looking at the groups in a vacuum.

1/21/17
Xando:

I am primarily thinking private equity long-term.

Lol aren't we all. Good luck bro

1/20/17
NY_Giantz:

1) Nat Res2) FIG3) Pubfin4) M&A5) Tech6) Industrials7) All Else

Surprised you'd put nat res at the top since their energy team is one of the weakest on the Street. Do they have strong mining and chemicals verticals?

1/22/17

Chemical vertical is very weak compared to CS, JPM, CS, DB, UBS

1/21/17
NY_Giantz:

1) Nat Res2) FIG3) Pubfin4) M&A5) Tech6) Industrials7) All Else

Public Finance above M&A? Bold strategy, Cotton.

1/22/17

?????

M&A!!!!

1/22/17

What locations is this for? Their Nat Res team in Europe is one of their weakest, definitely not number one... Go for M&A, FIG or Tech

1/24/17

Should really be:

1) M&A
2) Media/Comm
3) Tech
3) Transportation
4) Nat Res
5) The rest

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1/18/17

Hey Xando,

Great to meet you. I will also be joining the NY office as an IBD summer intern. I have not heard anything from HR about group selection yet. Have you heard anything/ do you know what the group selection timeline will be like for us? Thanks so much!

1/18/17

Hey cdhpartners,

Great to meet you as well! I have not heard of anything from HR either, but someone who interned last summer mentioned the process would happen around February. I believe it is a one day event in New York.

1/21/17

MS NY top groups are M&A, Media&Comm, P&U.

1/22/17

How about for MS HK (besides M&A)? Would also be great to know if there are differences in group "rankings" for PRC vs. non-PRC deals.

1/22/17

Any insight into their Energy group in Houston compared to the more spoken about groups (Jeff, RBC, CS)? Looking to recruit this upcoming cycle

1/22/17
ModelingJockey:

Any insight into their Energy group in Houston compared to the more spoken about groups (Jeff, RBC, CS)? Looking to recruit this upcoming cycle

Better than UBS and DB but much weaker than the other BBs. I've seen them ona couple deals (DVN/Felix). Probably decent buyside opps outside of Energy given the MS name.

1/23/17

Appreciate the insight, MS seems to be pretty under the radar here at WSO and even more so with their energy group. Have pretty strong connections in MS, WF, Jeff and BAML, any suggestions on which I should hone in on the most? Obviously spreading the net wide and getting to know the culture, but people seem to be great across the board in Houston

1/23/17

MS is definitely better than that. They've done a ton of OFS and midstream work recently - Dealflow wise, I'd say they're on par with JPM, BAML and CS. I've heard that buyside placements have been very strong recently as well

1/23/17

From a dealflow point of view, jeff if you want to work in upstream, BAML if you want to work in midstream. Maybe my original comment was a bit harsh but MS isnt a terrible Shop, they do deals, just not as much as the other BBs. Im sure their buyside placement is good too given the name but Im a little removed from the whole recruiting thing since Im a VP. FWIW Ive seen people from every BB including DB and UBS get into reputable buyside shops.

Wells is also a good shop, probably the only sector where they go toe to toe with the BBs.

I'd target all of them and if you are lucky enough to get an offer from all of them I'd go with who you like the most, the differences between those shops isnt that huge if you look at a per Analyst workload viewpoint.

1/24/17

Appreciate the insight guys, extremely helpful, SB'ed

1/23/17

any insight on rankings for Houston in general?
how are RBC, CS, GS & BAML compared to the rest?

1/24/17

MS did BH/GE so OFS is stronk

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