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Mercutio's picture
Mercutio
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 16
 
Points)
 on 12/11/06 at 8:22pm

I have already accepted what I am repeatedly told by others to be an amazing job starting next year in Boston. I’m excited about the job but am now getting cold feet about moving to Boston (I’ve barely been there but people have impressed upon me a lack of cute girls, decent late night parties, people that can hold conversations about topics unrelated to the weather or the Sox… ect) Anyone not in college currently live there? I would be curious to hear any sentiments, positive or negative.

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xsnobored's picture

Wow...who have u talked to?

xsnobored
     
 
(Monkey, 35
 
Points)
 on 12/11/06 at 8:48pm

First of all, the girls are quite amazing, it is definetely a college town, but also seems great for young professionals...I lived near BU last summer during an internship and it really is a great city with a quality nightlife and things to do on the weekends. It's more fun when its not cold, but either way I wouldn't worry about living there.

If i had the choice to do banking in boston instead of ny i would have gladly taken it. You get a city like New York, but the costs of living are lower, albeit not cheap by any means. It just feels much cleaner than New York and the commute will probably be quite easy.

Have fun..

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Mercutio's picture

re: Wow...who have u talked to?

Mercutio
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 16
 
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 on 12/11/06 at 9:28pm

Thanks man, I’m definitely glad to hear some positive news. Can't say that I'm not still apprehensive about bars closing at 2 but such is life…

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arcanne's picture

Boston is a great city, I

arcanne
      IB
 
 
(Senior Orangutan, 395
 
Points)
 on 12/11/06 at 9:44pm

Boston is a great city, I think you will enjoy it. The population is very young and vibrant. Food is great and the city is very alive at night. Great location and environment too; nothing like walking through Boston on a sunny day.

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dedtomato's picture

i'm sorry but boston totally

dedtomato
      IB
 
(Monkey, 50
 
Points)
 on 12/11/06 at 9:59pm

i'm sorry but boston totally sucks. like the girls are fine and the nightlife is fine too. but its not a real city like NY and you'll realize what I mean when you get there. i went to college there and one of thing that always pissed me off about the place is that nothing is open late, can't even find a slice of pizza past 1:30. to top it all of its FUCKING FREEZING.

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MetalJack's picture

No late-night eats? Better

MetalJack
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 248
 
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 on 12/11/06 at 10:48pm

No late-night eats? Better jump ship quick.

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bostonape's picture

it doesn't

bostonape
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 201
 
Points)
 on 12/12/06 at 12:49am

Like xsnobored said, there's lots of young people and professionals everywhere. The population is one of the most highly educated in the country, so I would say you're more likely to have a conversation beyond weather and sports here than most anywhere else. The nightlife does close earlier, but people start the night earlier, so the total amount of nightlife time doesn't seem to differ that much. One downside is the few late-night places to eat, but you learn where those are pretty quickly. It's also a lot cleaner and friendlier than NY.

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Jaygatsby28's picture

"boston totally" rules

Jaygatsby28
      IB
 
(Baboon, 107
 
Points)
 on 12/12/06 at 3:08am

Boston is great, I don't know wft you are talking about sanjay.

Mercutio: It's a great city, I grew up just outside of the city and worked there for 3 summers during college. Great mix of ppl: lots of professionals in thier 30-40s that commute to the suburbs, TONS of young professionals who live in the city (back bay or across the river), and then a shit load of college kids that mainly stick to they bars/areas around their campus (so they won't bother you if you are really worried).

The girls are amazing. Truly unique and intelligent with a good grounding (not stuck up and as materialistic as NYC girls). They say the best girl is a boston girl. You do not have to worry about girls in the city there are great after work bars to meet a good sample of what Boston has to offer.

It has a great party atmosphere with a good variety of bars and clubs. It isn't like NYC where 12 of the same bars come into existence for about 5 days and then are never to be heard of again. The party places in Boston are pretty solid and stay around for a reason.

Cost of living is amazing. You can get an apartment in Boston for $2000/month that would cost you $5500/month in NYC AND it will be close to work.

The city is ridiculously clean, save Downtown Crossing.

Biggest noticeable difference is the lack of a "NYC diverse population" (NYC diverse population defined as if you walk down the street with 40 ppl on the side walk, 20 are Latin American, 10 black, 6 Arab and 4 white). There are definitely more Irish and white people in Boston, however, races are not discriminated against unless you go deep into south Boston (which, unless you want to go to a hard ass Irish bar similar to Good Will Hunting, you will never visit - hell I only drive through there if I am trying to get to the south shore).

Also, you can get late night eats, especially around college areas, it just isn't as widespread as NYC but there are plenty of places. Ask ppl at work and you will find out what is what.

Contrary to what Sanjay says, Boston is indeed a real city. Check it out sanjay I dare you google that shit for yourself maybe you will learn a thing or two. It’s got a great small town atmosphere with a major financial representation (focused around Mutual Fund Co’s and some Insurance). It isn’t insanely overpopulated and out of control like NYC, but it is a city nonetheless (much smaller than NYC).

Also, Boston isn’t any colder than NYC. It’s right on the water so the temp is pretty good for a northern state. Don’t get me wrong, it’s no Miami, you’ll have some cold days in the dead of winter but it isn’t “FUCKING FREEZING.” Sanjay take a trip to Montreal or Buffalo then give me a shout…

People love the sox, but you don’t need to. Plenty else to talk about.

Anyway, not to write a fucking essay but if you were from Boston you’d understand my need to call Sanjay out for his dumb ass comments. I second what bostonape said above. Congrats on the job in Boston, I wish I could trade up my NYC for Boston any day. You will really enjoy it.

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fp175's picture

I hate Boston. It's

fp175
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(Gorilla, 684
 
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 on 12/12/06 at 7:09am

I hate Boston. It's segregated and there are no good clubs, just bars.

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dedtomato's picture

i'm sorry, but i actually

dedtomato
      IB
 
(Monkey, 50
 
Points)
 on 12/12/06 at 7:26am

i'm sorry, but i actually did live in boston for 4 very very cold years. new york is substantially warmer..i think there is less of a wind chill effect in ny. anyways you make my point exactly..boston has a very "small town" personality. In my view a "real city" is diverse, cosmopolitan, with plenty of options for entertainment. i felt like boston had just a few interesting places that you end up visiting over and over again.

don't get me wrong, it was a great place for four years and i agree that the girls/nightlife are fine. but given a choice i'd choose New York or california over boston any day. he asked for opinions and he might as well hear the whole truth..no city is perfect.

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buysiderules's picture

Boston is a more closely nit

buysiderules
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 181
 
Points)
 on 12/12/06 at 10:50am

Boston is a more closely nit professional community, you can meet and get to know more of the importent players. Its great for asset management and VC. A lot of money for a small place. The buy side rules and a lot of it is in boston (more concentrated). Let the new york sell side banks come to you

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2007Analyst's picture

boston is fine

2007Analyst
     
 
(Baboon, 163
 
Points)
 on 12/12/06 at 3:37pm

you'll enjoy it as long as you aren't moving from NYC.

if you're coming from NYC, then boston quickly becomes a terrible alternative. it's like the difference between Goldman and CS. Similar offerings, but one is just better in most of the key areas of comparison and if you move from GS to CS, those differences would be exaggerated and obvious. On the other hand if you moved from Jeffries to CS, it'd probably be swell.

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Monkeysee's picture

Boston is terrible

Monkeysee
     
 
(Monkey, 30
 
Points)
 on 12/12/06 at 4:23pm

Boston is a bad city.

No good clubs, no good restaurants, no museums, not much really.

Agree with 2007Analyst that "you'll enjoy it as long as you aren't moving from NYC" but would add "or any other decent city" to the end of his/her comment.

And what is with the obsession with the Red Sox? They aren't even a good team. Everyone is so depressed when they are losing.

There is enough money floating around Boston to make it a good city, but for some reason, it just hasn't happened.

Mercutio, get used to the Chinatown bus or the Delta shuttle, as you will be spending a lot of time commuting every time you want a decent weekend partying.

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imjobs2007's picture

i hate boston

imjobs2007
     
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 12/12/06 at 9:33pm

i live in boston and i think it's terrible. it is extremely cliquey and provincial. not diverse at all, boring bars that close early, and expensive with no bang for your buck. it's also very cold. go NYC, Chicago, or San Fran before you boston any day. just my 2 cents.

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Rickets's picture

The job

Rickets
     
 
(Orangutan, 288
 
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 on 12/12/06 at 11:53pm

Mind telling us what the job is?

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RMBills's picture

damn

RMBills
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 25
 
Points)
 on 12/15/06 at 1:56am

I went to school in Boston, and it was a nice town for that. As far as work and having enough expendable cash to do whatever you want, I could see Boston getting old quickly. But it depends on your temperament. If you like small cities then go for it, its probably the best small city in America.

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re: the job

Mercutio
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 16
 
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 on 12/15/06 at 11:06am
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boston

nevrsumr50
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(Monkey, 46
 
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 on 6/12/07 at 11:10pm
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nevrsumr50's picture

question as well

nevrsumr50
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 on 6/12/07 at 11:11pm
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outlier's picture

My guess is he's working for

outlier
     
 
(Monkey, 37
 
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 on 6/12/07 at 11:21pm
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pookie's picture

agreed

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(Monkey, 40
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 2:06am
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milkman84's picture

Boston's better than most

milkman84
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(Gorilla, 729
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 2:20am

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CompBanker's picture

Like any other move in life,

CompBanker
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(Almost Human, 8,508
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 7:22am

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StoneImmaculate's picture

Boston has a "small town

StoneImmaculate
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 69
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 8:07am
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mea04tdt's picture

Financial centre

mea04tdt
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 185
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 8:08am
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zzdub's picture

i live in boston, and am

zzdub
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 20
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 9:50am
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igzolt's picture

just graduated after 4 yrs

igzolt
     
 
(Monkey, 46
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 11:46am
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net worth or nothing's picture

Boston is the Houston of the

net worth or nothing
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(King Kong, 1,146
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 4:27pm
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zahid.avi's picture

boston's FiDi spans two to

zahid.avi
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 17
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 5:35pm
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werdwerd's picture

i hate boston. the T

werdwerd
      PE
 
(Baboon, 105
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 6:01pm
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Patrick Bateman's picture

Having lived in Boston for

Patrick Bateman
     
 
 
(Orangutan, 279
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 6:27pm
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Seanc's picture

Boston is wack. Case closed.

Seanc
     
 
(King Kong, 1,170
 
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 on 6/13/07 at 10:53pm
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zahid.avi's picture

ditto.

zahid.avi
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 17
 
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 on 6/14/07 at 9:28am
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bostonchica7's picture

Sure, if you stick to the

bostonchica7
     
 
(Monkey, 32
 
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 on 6/14/07 at 12:35pm
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Seanc's picture

Cities that close at 2am

Seanc
     
 
(King Kong, 1,170
 
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 on 6/14/07 at 12:58pm
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Re: Cities that close at 2am

net worth or nothing
      O
 
(King Kong, 1,146
 
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 on 6/14/07 at 2:00pm
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Brady4MVP's picture

Dude. I don't party with

Brady4MVP
      HF
 
(Neanderthal, 3,161
 
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 on 6/14/07 at 3:28pm
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StoneImmaculate's picture

I bet your a Stern student

StoneImmaculate
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 69
 
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 on 6/15/07 at 1:28pm
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Brady4MVP's picture

No but nice try. I did ivy

Brady4MVP
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(Neanderthal, 3,161
 
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 on 6/15/07 at 1:34pm
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StoneImmaculate's picture

that's cool. My dad is John

StoneImmaculate
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 69
 
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 on 6/15/07 at 1:48pm
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earlybird's picture

You´re doomed.

earlybird
     
 
(Monkey, 52
 
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 on 6/19/07 at 5:25am
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Re: No but nice try. I did ivy

net worth or nothing
      O
 
(King Kong, 1,146
 
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Re: "boston totally" rules

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(Baboon, 130
 
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 on 6/19/07 at 5:25pm
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Oh and one more thing

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(Baboon, 130
 
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 on 6/19/07 at 5:28pm
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Re: "boston totally" rules

Geronimo
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(Chimp, 4
 
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 on 6/19/07 at 7:08pm
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boston sucks. period.

showmewhatyougot
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(Chimp, 6
 
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 on 6/19/07 at 7:49pm
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I don't know how people

nevrsumr50
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(Monkey, 46
 
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 on 7/5/07 at 11:22am
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Also if the T comment is

nevrsumr50
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(Monkey, 46
 
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 on 7/5/07 at 11:33am
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I moved to Boston from

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^hi JJC aka brady4mvp. mad

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dedtomato: i'm sorry but

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