Haven't been lucky with any of my superdays, even though they were for high-level firms like Goldman etc. I really want to start out at a boutique but haven't heard back because my GPA sucks. I primarily want to do healthcare finance but don't think I'll be able to cross the GPA threshold. Any advice???
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is it too late to land a summer internship? are u insane buddy it's not too late till its may 20ish. if you live in a major city there are tons of boutiques you can reach out on Linkedin and negotiate a decent hourly wage.
Yeah, but my GPA sucks
If you can't sell yourself with a bad GPA how are you going to advise on selling companies? More people than you think have low GPAs but can figure ways to work around it. Buck up and keep networking / calling whatever it takes
Dude how bad is your GPA? is it sub-3.0?
Lol not sub 3.0
But compared to my SATs and high school credentials, it looks pretty weak.
Also, trust me, I know how to research and sell. I am just having a hard time at Dartmouth and a host of other issues.
u have a 3.0+ gpa and attend dartmouth u fuck u have no excuse LOL -- a lot of boutiques will take you because of your uni alone imo
Lots of them have GPA requirements of 3.5+ which i don't meet
And I did not get a securities superday for GS :(
Getting to super days and not getting an offer (Originally Posted: 12/11/2016)
Have had some really tough times the last few weeks with recruiting. Ended up going to 5 super days with MM and BB's but did not get a single offer. I have a few calls lined up with some other MM's in the next few days...would it be good to bring up how I've already had super days with other banks?
That's a risky choice, because if they ask if you received an offer and you have to tell them you didn't then you might get a ding. On the other hand if you had a super day with a few firms and have yet to hear back from them, then it's a safer bet to mention those because you can simply say you expect to hear back from them at a later date, but I would air on the side of caution. Although I might be a bit more risk averse than most.
Do not bring it, they might found out you got no offers. A rule of thumb is to never bring up anything negative about yourself.
I would not bring it up. Attending a superday is kind of like making the playoffs. Sure, it's nice, but no one really cares unless you win the Super Bowl (or get an offer in your case). Plus, the bank finds out that you got dinged (and they will because they will ask you), they will view that as a reason to ding you. Why would a bank hire someone that multiple banks already passed on?
My advice would be to take a few hours and really think about why you did not get an offer after five attempts. You don't need to tell me or anyone else, so be honest with yourself. Whatever the issue is - maybe you were unprepared, maybe you missed a technical, maybe you had a stain on your suit - try and find a way to fix it.
Striking out on almost all superdays (Originally Posted: 01/27/2017)
Now that the recruitment process is over, I've begun to frankly reflect on how poorly I've done throughout the recruitment process.
I'm a junior at a semi target (think UC Berkeley, WUSTL, Emory) with a good GPA (>3.7) and solid resume. I got interviews at 15+ BBs, top MM banks, top AM shops, etc with no problem. A few have had networking sessions before giving interviews out, and with only 1-2 exceptions, I've never failed to get along with bankers/gotten dinged after one of these networking rounds.
I've also got a decent story that many people have said makes sense, practiced my interviews, and learned technicals pretty damn well. Don't think I ever got caught off guard with an interview question/technical question, and as a result I've gotten to a fair number of superdays. My success rate, however, with getting offers is extremely low. Despite feeling like I crush interviews in general, my superday to offer conversion (for both on campus and off campus superdays) is like 7:1. I can usually get superdays in 60-70% of my interviews though. I still ended up with an offer, but nowhere near where I thought I would be.
I never really understood this. The biggest piece of advice I got was that I'm too polished, and it can sound rehearsed/over confident. I've tried toning it down, but that doesn't work either because I feel like I don't stand out. Other than that, the comments were strange, varied, and unhelpful, which leads me to think that even though I'm pretty outgoing/extroverted,maybe I just don't develop enough rapport with bankers during interviews. Some of my buddies with lesser resumes and less technical knowledge were able to get offers at 4/5 firms that expressed interest. I feel like if I concretely knew what was doing wrong and how to fix it, I'd easily be able to adjust my style and address the issue for FT.
Has anyone else dealt with this? How do you close the damn deal and get the offer?
I feel like I have a good handle on exactly what happened. You are the type of candidate that plays it very safely and by the book, who doesn't show his or her true personality in an interview setting, but regurgitates the "correct" answers. you have to be genuine and come across as someone with real personality and it usually doesn't happen if you always play it safe.
Interesting point. How would you recommend "showing personality"? I consider myself fairly extroverted and don't typically have problems communicating. I've spent time in interviews developing rapport and talking about hobbies, etc. but to no avail.
down 2 shots of johnnie walker 30 minutes before your 1st interview and you'll come out on top. true story.
Can you remember smiling in your interview as you were answering questions?
I'm usually a pretty calm, even-keel person so I had to actively smile in interviews so people knew I was genuine. My success rate went up quickly after I made this change. I could see responses and interviews naturally went much smoother when I tried to smile and crack a joke if appropriate.
Superdays but no offers...any advice? (Originally Posted: 02/12/2013)
Last week I attended a series of IBD superdays, some were BB some were MM. By the way these were for SA positions. So far I have heard back from 4, and got rejected by all. Any advice on how to do better at my interviews coming up this week?
Last week I didn't get asked that many technicals, and when I did they weren't hard. Although I did get a bunch of dumb brain teasers and math questions.
fit. and be more conversational and personable
Need to work on how you present "your story" and just overall fit portion of the interview.
Getting to the Final Round and No Offer? (Originally Posted: 11/27/2012)
Has anyone been thru the following interview process with a consulting firm and not receive an offer:
-HR Screening -Behavioral -Skills Test w/Manager -Final (Confirming) Interview with Partners/Sr. Mrgs/Sr. Exes
If so, what did you think you did wrong or could have improved? Have you continued to pursue that company?
Of course, otherwise there'd be no point dong the final round? Just don't piss off the senior guy you're interviewing with, come across as vaguely intelligent and interesting and show a good work ethic and you should be fine though.
I once missed an offer after all the discussion on housing/tax equalisation/locations of work places., and it was an offer that was discussed for 1 year.(given the budget freeze and their then M&A situation). ..They told me the other candidate (who only started the interview process way after me) was happy to go for base pay. Anyway, things like that happen all the time. It can be their personal preference, the skills match, it can be blessing in disguise.
Consistently making to final round just to not get offers (Originally Posted: 02/03/2010)
Does anyone feel the same? I have been consistently making pass first round for almost all the BBs (save GS/MS who dont do OCR at my school) and M/B/B, just to get to super day and never get an offer. So it's not like I suck at interviews because I am almost 100% in terms of first rounds, but somehow can't seal the deal and only have 2 superdays left. Not whining, just want to know if anyone out there are on the same boat.
I was and am in the same situation. Sounds like you have a great resume and decent enough interview skills to make to through the first rounds, but you also seem to have some weakness that's holding you back. Try to focus on what questions you didn't answer as well during your final rounds. I found usually that first rounds focus more on fit. You might get one or two technical questions, but nothing in depth. However, final rounds you get more difficult technical questions. If that's the problem, you could easily brush up on it.
Also, with campus recruiting, usually the same set of people apply to all the BB jobs. Perhaps your experience is strong enough for you to make the resume selection and into the superday. However, the competition gets tougher and you just don't have enough experience compared to your competitors. There's nothing you can do about this situation, except wait for all the strong ones to drop out after they get offers. In the meantime focus on what you can do to improve.
Same here. Am I particularly bad at dealing with more senior level people?
My suggestion would be to get an industry professional (friend, alum?) conduct an interview and ask for his/her honest feedback.
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