Equity Crowd Funding

Hello!

I was wondering if anyone has tried equity crowd funding. I am currently using fundable

Are there any other good equity crowd websites?

Also I have garnered some interest in Rayton Solar on fundable

What are your thoughts?

 

Equity-based crowd funding encompasses a wide and diverse spectrum. Most are primarily based on real estate transactions which can range from fix-and-flip (e.g. 12.5% return for investment in XYZ which wants to flip a home) to real estate developers wanting to finance the construction of a student housing complex in exchange for an equity stake in the project (this can also be a loan to the real estate firm).

Recently I've come across small business lending which is slightly different than pure equity deals however most (like my example I'm about to give) take out a lien which protects investments in that in case of a default they would effectively takeover the business and run it until investment is recouped for investors or they would liquidate and return cash to investors.

Examples of the above include Fundrise, Realty Shares, Crowdfunder, and Reamerge to name a few.

If you want to see how equity crowdfunding, P2P lending, etc compare to bonds and stocks Reamerge has an active blog which does some in depth analysis that you will find interesting:

http://blog.reamerge.com/

Let me know if you have any questions, exciting topic to explore IMO.

 

There are several equity crowdfunding platforms that you can list your pitch on, in Europe and beyond. Each of them allows founders to raise capital from the investors that are already registered on the platform, as well as from other members of the community interested in their product. However, great differences arise in terms of structure and degree of regulation, and it’s up to the founders to understand what platform can provide the right structure for them.

iAngels - Startup Equity CrowdFunding Platform allows you to invest in high tech startups alongside Israel's top angel investors under the same terms. The minimum investment is $5k.

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Sorry but have you thought this through for more than a few lunches with friends? Have you worked in PE before?

  1. You have to be an accredited investor to be an LP. Even InvestX, which to my understanding has cratered, has that requirement, if I'm not mistaken. Are you trying to skirt that by using other institutions? I don't know of regulations regarding this but a) no institution is dumb enough to do this without locking in their downside (read: setting you up to get destroyed if something goes wrong) and b) they sure as hell won't want to deal with LPs, especially when they don't even know what an LP is (which would probably be the case with the type of institutions you might attract).
  2. You can now actually invest even when not an accredited investor, however the vehicle can only invest $1mm per year. So, you still have to be an accredited investor or you can expect to lose about a million a year.
  3. Good Lord, the admin aspect would be a nightmare. Thousands of LPs? That's literally insane. Even if you could get a thousand people to commit $100k each, you're still talking about a $100mm total, which isn't much You'd spend so much money just to let everyone know what's going on because I'm sure your third-party administrator, if one is insane enough to take the fund as a client, would be thrilled to be sending out distributions and what not to 1000+ people.
  4. Compliance would be even worse.
  5. Assuming the vehicles is even possible and is well funded, do you have any sort of track record? Do you know what to look for when investing? Are you just looking to be a minority investor? It's very possible that the least of your problems is setting the damn thing up.

I could come up with a couple hundred questions in an hour or two but my first impression is that it's a terrible idea, and that's even if you've worked in PE before.

 

Thanks Texas, never worked in PE i am in an emerging market country in Botswana in Africa. Here there is no regulation on crowdfunding but it is treated as a Collective Investment Undertaking. Admin is not a problem since Unit Trusts also work this way?

The idea is to look invest in mining deal Botswana is one of the Best Diamond Producers in the world!Please send some more questions I'm sure this will really help. Other people are free to critique as well.

 
Texas_Fight2015:

Sorry but have you thought this through for more than a few lunches with friends? Have you worked in PE before?

  1. You have to be an accredited investor to be an LP. Even InvestX, which to my understanding has cratered, has that requirement, if I'm not mistaken. Are you trying to skirt that by using other institutions? I don't know of regulations regarding this but a) no institution is dumb enough to do this without locking in their downside (read: setting you up to get destroyed if something goes wrong) and b) they sure as hell won't want to deal with LPs, especially when they don't even know what an LP is (which would probably be the case with the type of institutions you might attract).
  2. You can now actually invest even when not an accredited investor, however the vehicle can only invest $1mm per year. So, you still have to be an accredited investor or you can expect to lose about a million a year.
  3. Good Lord, the admin aspect would be a nightmare. Thousands of LPs? That's literally insane. Even if you could get a thousand people to commit $100k each, you're still talking about a $100mm total, which isn't much You'd spend so much money just to let everyone know what's going on because I'm sure your third-party administrator, if one is insane enough to take the fund as a client, would be thrilled to be sending out distributions and what not to 1000+ people.
  4. Compliance would be even worse.
  5. Assuming the vehicles is even possible and is well funded, do you have any sort of track record? Do you know what to look for when investing? Are you just looking to be a minority investor? It's very possible that the least of your problems is setting the damn thing up.

I could come up with a couple hundred questions in an hour or two but my first impression is that it's a terrible idea, and that's even if you've worked in PE before.

Go to www.investxdotcom they have a similar model!

 
moneymogul:
imallcash:
It looks like crowd funding legislation is only going to get more and more relaxed.

Interesting. Where are you tracking the progress on the legislation? I understand that all the regulations are supposed to be hammered out finally within the month?

I'm not directly tracking it, however, I work for a startup that is looking to exploit the lax rules and see cause for concern. Obama is pushing the jobs act forward with the intention of creating jobs by stimulating startups through ease of acquiring financing. I actually like the accredited investor hurdle requirement, because it limits the supply of funding which moves funding towards the best startups. I think we will see the amount of startup failures spike if/when the rules loosen, as a lot of startups don't market their offerings as risky as they should. An accredited investor, in my experience, can see the risks and know the questions to ask. A non-accred (in general) doesn't understand the risks, which is where I see a major issue if the flood gates open.

It's all manipulated with junk bonds. You can't win.
 

Crowd funding really should have a place in society but how can risk be quantified so information is more asymmetric? Perhaps caps on the amount that can be invested - say $500 That will limit exposure.

 

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