Girls and money
Some may dismiss this as a pointless thread, but its something of interest to many people. We all know that money=women in this world, but how about quantifying the relationship a bit more. Around what sort of a salary does a guy need to make to really enjoy ballin out in clubs, hanging with models every weekend, etc. in NYC?
Not so much about the money as it is being awesome and having game. I do it on typical first-year analyst comp. Just be cool, slightly dickish and fun to be around. Really that simple, breh.
dude...you have some issues. First of all, if you need to have money to get a girl then she doesn't really like you at all. Don't mention what you do for a living unless they ask, most girls don't care/are not interested in your finance lingo/associate it with douche bags. Third-get yourself some promoter freinds, you can drink for free and usually get in for free as well to all the top clubs in the city-the guys who buy the bottles and have the models (that they don't know) at their table are the suckers who paid for the bottle and the promoter dragged some chicks over to speak with you as a favor to them. The guys who got in for free will also have a table and girls, but they will definitely not be wearing a suit or any type of work clothes. The hottest girls I've dated (would without a doubt be rated a 10 from everyone here) I didn't even have a job when I met them and I certainly didn't have alot of cash.
Word of the wise...most of the hot girls that aren't gold diggers hate when guys talk about money and work...they would rather you hang out with them and be normal than be a douchebag rich guy. Trust me.
The op's post is stupid and silly. I mean you don't need money to get girls, and if that's the only thing you have to offer then get ready to attract prime-A gold diggers and get your prenup rock solid.
Onto a more serious point though. I am a strong believer in the social theory of hypergamy, which postulates that women seek men of higher status than them. Among the well-educated professional women in my social circle, virtually all of them are dating men who are at least equal to them in terms of education/money and oftentimes above them in that regard. It would be tough for say a male state school grad working in sales to date a woman who went to top undergrad and mba and works in private equity.
just as a data point..I graduated from a state school and lived with my parents and did not have a job at that point (just graduated) I dated a gorgeous girl who went to Harvard, was considerably older than me, owned a great apt on park ave, and worked at a very well known hedge fund. It also got serious and we were talking about moving in together. (The breakup was not because of my status at all...rather I didn't see myself marrying her at the time)
Cool. Your story is truly an anomaly.
but I would never date a women who went to a top undergrad and MBA and works in PE... she'd be stuck up as fuck
Note: Status doesn't always equate to money.
No. Money = Hookers. Confident + Interesting = Women. Don't conflate the two.
OP, get this tattooed to your forearm or something. Remember this. And don't ever be a total douche when/if you get wealthy because you think you're gonna get women. You may get herpes though.
Why does this topic keep coming up? It would be nice if all future frivolous inquiries of this nature are automatically redirected to previous posts like this one: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/do-women-really-care-about-money
and a lot of people that can't use the search function in WSO.
alot of nerdy kids that think working at gs will turn them into hugh hefner on here.
but also a lot of poor guys that think cuz the ghetto bitches they date dont care about money no-one does lol.
At the end of the day the most desirable chicks (i.e. very hot, very educated, from a very wealthy background) will not in a million years date you if you are not of equal / higher status. Sometimes there are exceptions but usually the chick has issues or is just looking for a fling or whatever. She just cant introduce some unemployed poor loser into her friends circle lol. Trust me on this I only know wealthy stuck-up private school girls and thats how it works for the most part...
it works the same way the other way around tough, you can't really start dating some poor uneducated bimbo as a guy if you are from the above mentioned background... I mean you can but you cant exactly bring her along to dinner parties lol.
You are a moron...your comment "I only know wealthy stuck-up private school girls" proves it. There are very successfull and very hot girls out there who are not stuck-up, however rare they are.
Amen. This brother knows what he's talking about. Enough talk about "game" and all the other PUA crap that has infected the male psyche lately. As long as you cross the minimum threshold of looks and personality, a highly desirable woman is asking herself, "how does this guy compare to me status wise?" The initial meeting or date is when she will ask questions to gauge your value. This isn't fucking big state U where girls are going for the good looking frat bro who is loud and obnoxious. The real world is a different ball game.
My girlfriend is from a wealthy east coast family and went to a top boarding school. She now works in PE. I'm from a humble middle-class family, but I went to the same elite college as her, outperformed her academically and in terms of extracurricular achievements, and now make more money than her. Hence, I have proven my social value, and she can introduce me to her friends and family without fear of diminishing her own status. If I had gone to say a SEC or big 10 state school, no way in hell we would be in a relationship.
So, in terms of your GF, you are worthless without your college pedigree.
oh...and yes i was unemployed and introduced to some very wealthy and famous people in my girlfreinds "circles", both employed and unemloyed...I didn't work at GS either (though I am in banking now) and guess what? These people really don't care what you do if you are cool and can carry a conversation.
Some really warped views of women and dating on here. And the PUA crap really makes me want to barf.
Also...if you date a status-obsessed girl (or are some status-obsessed DB yourself), I don't know what to tell you. Sounds terrible. I'm not saying that you want to date some classless idiot, but there's a lot of room between someone who acts like trash and someone who won't give you the time of day unless you went to XYZ school and work in XYZ industry and make XYZ money. That sounds like a nightmare of a person and a nightmare of a relationship.
Is this seriously how people think of this stuff?
I think most of the well-educated professional women in NYC are somewhere in the middle. They try to figure out rather quickly whether a guy has "his shit together." For some, that may be the right school; for others that may be the right family background and social connections. All I'm saying is that hypergamy is real and true and by and large women do not want to date men of lower status/prestige than them.
my girlfriend's not into money, lucky me, cuz she's Amish and prefers bartering
Too red pill for most to handle.
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