How good program in Ms in Finance at Imperial College London. Im wondering if it could be good route for physics major from Scandinavia to break into London financial game.
How hard is it to get into? I quess its pretty hard but not as hard as LSE. But do anyone know any stats about average GPAs or acceptance percentages?
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I wrote about this a few weeks ago you may find it helpful.
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/best-msc-finance-programs-in-uk-e…
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Imperial's MSc in Finance & Accounting (Originally Posted: 03/06/2014)
Hey,
I wanted to get a bit of info on this new program that Imperial will be offering this fall.
They describe it as something that the industry is demanding and that was created following the financial crisis in order to equip students with the tools that are necessary in today's post-financial crisis era.
What do you guys know about this program?
I was planning on applying to the MSc in Finance but as this is their most prestigious program and my grades aren't exactly fantastic (good but not great), I figured I might chose the MSc in Finance & Accounting as my first choice so that I'll have a better shot at getting into Imperial. The requirements are slightly less harsh for the MSc in F&A... Plus, apart from 2-3 mandatory accounting classes, you can pretty much get the same degree as the people doing the MSc in Finance.
On a side note, I've completed two internships at BB banks, one in an accounting/controlling role, and one in a pure financial markets role so I figure that although my first choice would be the MSc in Finance, perhaps applying to the MSc in F&A as my first choice is a good idea as my profile "matches" the degree subjects.
Lastly, Imperial is Imperial, especially in the UK where the brand of the school you've been too is of huge importance compared to other countries.
But, I'm afraid that this degree could prevent me from getting a S&T/hedge fund job because of the Accounting part.... What do you guys think?
Thanks Cheers
I have just sent my application for this programme! I have been led to believe it targets mainly students who are aiming to work in the financial departments of blue chips companies. It means that this is how you are going to be marketed by their career placement service. As a result, you will be at a comparative disadvantage with respect to their msc Finance graduate... This could hinder you from achieving your career goals. On the other hand, I think that given your CV, you could definitely get accepted to their msc in finance! They also have a master in investment and wealth management that are meant for people who desire to initiate their careers in the buy-side (Asset Management and/or HF).
Just out of curiosity, what is your major and how much did you score on the GMAT?
thanks for your input.
Major was Economics, got 680 on GMAT. My grades aren't that good though, there's a definite progression over the 3 years and I got an excellent grade on my degree thesis but my final overall grade is meh.
How do you know my CV?
I'm surprised you think I have a shot at the MSc in Finance, I thought I literally had 0 chance. I haven't sent my application out yet so I might put the MSc in Finance as my first choice.
I got a conditionnal offer (need to pass the TOEFL) for the MSc in Finance at Cass by the way. Would you say Imperial is worth the £ 5'000 more tuition? Plus living expenses and all that I think would be more expensive at Imperial than Cass.
Imperial is much more expensive than Cass if you plan on living close to your School (South Kensington is far more expensive than Clerkenwell). By CV I meant your internships. I'am also an econ major and scored 720 on the GMAT with solid but not outstanding grades (Top 30%). I hope that a high score on the GMAT can compensate a lower GPA . I think that both school are worth the money, but it should be taken into account that a master in finance and acounting at imperial or a MSF at Cass is already second tier compared to LSE, LBS etc... I would advise you to take the IELTS if possible as the TOEFL is currently facing some issues.
The "business school" aspect of Cass really appeals to me though. A lot of their teachers are still working in the financial industry, as opposed to LSE, Oxbridge.
But I am aware that in terms of reputation, Imperial is above Cass. When it comes to the quantitative aspect of Finance, it doesn't really get better than the MSc in Finance at Imperial.
I might apply to Cass as well, is their process as fastidious as the one for imperial? I spent ages writing the required essays! Any tips?
I didn't really find Imperial's process to be fastidious.
But apart from a motivation letter, a few other official documents and references, Cass' process isn't that long.
Cass do not even read the personal statement - I've got a couple of offers in the past without writing more than a paragraph on the statement. As long as you have an ok GPA you will get into Cass. However this clearly shows you should not go to Cass as they are not elitist.
Don't really know about the "elitist" part...
The thing that really appeals to me in Cass' case is the fact that they are a REAL business school. Unlike Oxbridge/LSE, most of Cass' teaching staff still works in the financial industry. You have lots of high up guys that give courses there (Directors, even Managing Directors). So you know you'll actually learn about stuff that's used in the real world.
Now Cass' brand name might not be up there with LSE/Imperial/Oxbridge, but I'm sure the actual quality of the course is great.
Anyone know about the reputation of MSc. Marketing at Imperial?
It seems like a new program and was wondering how it compares to similar programs in the US.
I have to say, I really like what Cass has to offer. Subjects offered looked solid.
But again, if I am going to fork out a huge sum of money, sadly a brand name will get you further?
I have also checked CASS alumni in linkedin, it seems they place well. But I am not too sure, if they were Msc Fin alumni or just CASS in general.
at the end of the day, if you went to both schools you would be looked favorably upon .. the thing about imperial though is they focus heavily on getting you a job - does CASS do this?
Hi Uncle, what do you mean by focusing heavily on getting student a job? Do their career service actually go out and help you all the way? That'd be amazing lol
If so, is this help only for UK/EU citizen? As other nationalities would be facing difficulty when it comes to work permits and Visa.
What are you saying? that I'll have trouble finding a job if I go to Cass?
From what I heard from friends that Cass business school students suck at least the undergrad. He did his semester abroad in London and took classes at Cass. He told me that every time the professor asked a question none of the students would be able to answer. And then the professor would ask the "American students to answer" because of the material the American kids knew. These kids were at semester abroad and they knew their shit than the kids who actually go to the school. The facilities I heard sucked as well. This is anecdotal and undergrad experiences I am talking about but felt you should know as you are talking about Cass
Anyone attending or have attended the UC London program care to do a student review for me?
"Cass undergrad students suck"...
" A friend of mine who did his exchange semester at Cass told me that when the professor would ask a question, no one could answer but the awesome US kids"
.....
Anyone else have an opinion? this time with facts
I have heard some similar stuffs. This is anecdotal there is no statistical evidence to back it up because I don't think Cass uses SAT or gmat scores.
they have units that are focused on career development and they work hard before the degree even begins to get you a job - the recruiters come to campus etc.
id expect it to be like any country - if you have working rights, it be easier to land a job but maybe someone can correct me on this. if your an international student at a good program, maybe the employers would sponsor you
Imperial MSc Mathematics & Finance (Originally Posted: 03/01/2015)
Hi everyone!
I'm currently a penultimate year BSc Mathematical Science student at The National University of Ireland, Galway. I am seeking to gain entry into the MSc Maths & Finance programme at Imperial in 2016.
I was wondering if anyone could shed light on my chances of being accepted? Or provide me with advice as to what I can do in the interim to better my chances of gaining entry?
I am very much aware of my university's relatively poor reputation. However, I have completed a semester abroad in the Hong Kong University of Science & Technology. Also, my Cumulative Average Grade so far is 92%, so it's much more than a 1:1, and I'm nearly top of my class. My Leaving Certificate grades (Ireland's version of A-levels) are flawless with straight A1s, but I know these might no longer be relevant.
Furthermore, I will most likely be doing an internship in EY's financial services risk division this summer - especially working in their Quantitative Advisory Practice. But I know this isn't an especially glamorous internship. I'm waiting on a response from Susquehanna but I'm not hopeful as they are so selective.
I have not completed the GMAT, as it is not required of Imperial. However, I will of course be applying to similar courses in other Top UK universities (LSE, UCL, Edinburgh, Oxbridge) so I may end up doing it to strengthen my applications, if you guys would recommend it?
Ultimately I am divided over pursuing a career in either quantitative finance or consulting, but I am having difficulty in breaking into consulting due to my uni's rep - but that's a discussion for another day.
Thanks everyone for reading, all advice/recommendations are extremely welcomed!
Anyone care to give me some life advice? :P
IMHO you should be fine, if you want to improve your chances I suggest taking the GMAT. You can send them an email and ask an assessment of your profile.
You should be totally fine. You sure imperial does not ask for GRE or GMAT for a quant heavy program like that? With your background I would think that you can get 700+ pretty easy and than you are in guaranteed. UG prestige is not as big a factor for those programs and your grades are top notch
imperial mfin (Originally Posted: 07/21/2011)
Sorry if this question has been made again,but i would like to inform me if the master in finance in imperial business school places very well at banks like GS,MS,JPM,UBS,DB,CS and maybe some big consulting firms in London,because i m thinking of working some years there.The cost of this program is extraordinarily high and i m wondering if its a ''waste of money'.Do u believe that its better than warwick's mfin as far as the placement?Thanks guys!
I've graduated the program and I'd say that most students are coming into it without internships or previous experience. I'd say that most students have found some sort of work be it grad scheme or internship. As for M&A I think there have been a couple to full-time at MS and a lot more internships at tier 1 banks. A lot of the students were interviewing at CS but not sure if anyone got anything there. As for consulting I know a few guys got full-time places for that. As a side note, I don;t think anyone got a place at GS, I know some interviewed for the internship in M&A and some Asset management. All in all, I think 60-70% have internships/full-time work by the summer and according to the stats over 90% by graduation (the following year).
Without experience recruiting is pretty hard, but you will likely get interviews. The course is good, some great guest lecturers and I think the value of being in London puts it above Warwick. Seems as though the Oxford programme is rated quite highly by the FT so I'd consider that, and LSE I'd say has the best finance society (who's events you could crash regardless) and probably the highest placement rate.
As for Warwick I heard they're losing some of their professors. Hope that helps
You can get into the top banks with that. I don't know anyone directly from imperial that got into GS but i know people who got into all the other banks you listed.
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