Hey guys, I saw a really old post about this and I wanted to know your opinions about this. I am currently a rising sophomore with no intentions of graduating early. I came in with enough credits to be a Junior. Is it wise to list myself as a Junior? My non-target OCR has pretty much nothing for sophomores, but a pretty strong ocr for Juniors. The thing I am mostly worried about is ruining relations with my "Junior" internship employer.
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Don't do this. You are a sophomore, not a junior. Do not lie or mislead. I would suggest networking with potential employers and letting them know your credentials/situation.They may be willing to consider you for internships since you have above average credits.
do it if your gpa is good. I know plenty of people who did it. They all work at top BB now bc they had previous banking experience sophomore summer.
Once they find out you have 2 years left you might not get a FT offer.
Don't do it!
If you have enough credits to be a junior you should definitely do it without a doubt! The likelihood you get hired the next summer at another place with a summer analyst experience already under your belt is extremely high. Your actual Junior summer you will go through recruiting either way, why would you not strengthen your chances now?
Interesting, people's opinions seem really split. Since I am at a non-target, there are not many IBD summer positions (they are extremely competitive), so I am thinking about applying to consulting and TAS positions. I have a perfect GPA so that should help me get into the door. Can anyone share their experiences with going this route?
Definitely do not lie.
I would appreciate some more opinions also. I'm in a similar position except that I'm at a target school and I am a freshmen who is considering putting that I am a sophomore on applications so that I can be considered for the many BB sophomore programs since even at target schools, there are little to no opportunities for freshmen.
Why would you lie? If you really want to put yourself down as Junior, go to your school registrar and ask them to officially change your graduation standing. That's the only way it can be done.
Uhhh.. I don't understand where this lying part is coming in. At my undergrad if you had xyz amount of credits then you were considered that .. if you are in your second year but have junior standing creditwise. You're still a junior. If they see your resume and that you've only been down a gb the school for two years then probably put a bullet saying Junior Year standing due to credits accomplished or something
How is he lying if he's considered crefitwise by his university to be a junior
Thanks for the comment shorttheworld. I'm not the OP but I'll put in a statement like the one you suggested so that there is no doubt and no one can consider it to be lying.
My situation: I have earned 76 credit hours. I transferred and 55 of those credit hours came with me. I'm considered a sophomore because I have less than 60 credits. I consider myself a junior because I'm enrolled in 18 credit hours and will continue to be until I graduate in 4 semesters (like a junior). I'll be a junior in January either way so it doesnt really matter in my situation. Just providing a different angle to the problem.
I was in a similar position. If you're going for B4 consulting/TAS, definitely list yourself as a junior based on the credits. You can get an internship earlier on that you otherwise would. It's not a big deal, and just opens you up to more opportunities. It'll come out in the interview what your FT timeline looks like--and if they want you, they'll save a spot for you in the FT start class further out. Besides, in a lot of B4, they're used to people adding on an extra year for MAcc anyway--so you won't ruin any relationships w them.
Just want to bump this thread as I have a first round with a Big 4 next week. I talked with a buddy of mine who knows a few people who listed themselves as juniors even though they were sophomores. Apparently they got caught and were blacklisted across all Big 4. I think credit wise that is not the problem, but rather the graduation date. If I am really graduating in 2016 but listing myself as 2015, I am stealing the spots that are meant for people who are seriously candidates for FT. Right now I am thinking to just do this towards other companies that are not the Big 4
arent you putting your expected graduation date on your resume, anyway? doesnt matter what you put (soph vs jr), the employers can see when you will be graduating and can decide for themselves if they want to interview/hire you for the summer even though youre 2 years out from full time.
Sneaking into investment banking. (Originally Posted: 09/12/2008)
If you're currently a sophomore this year, couldn't you say that you're trying to graduate one year early and apply for SA positions for Summer 2009? Technically, it wouldn't be lying -- you're saying on your resume that you're "expecting" to graduate in 2010 (although whether or not you actually do, that's another story). Is there any way you could get fucked for doing this and has this been done before?
Just throwin it out there.
When I go to my student account on my school's website, it has under Student Information: expected graduation, May 2009. So, essentially the school expects everyone to graduate in four years, and you have to register with the school if you plan to do otherwise.
I would only try it if you summered at a bank that you had no plans of ever returning to for full time or of getting a reference from ever in the future. So no, I would not recommend doing it.
I've seen it done a few times. The end result? One SA-ed for two consecutive summers, which blows. Who wants to work their ass off to get an offer to work their ass off to get an offer? Another was pressured to graduate early by HR which ended up not being possible, looked like a huge tool, and didn't get an offer. Subsequently left banking.
You're young, work at a 9-5, hang out with your friends and get hammered every night.
I've seen it done a few times. The end result? One SA-ed for two consecutive summers, which blows. Who wants to work their ass off to get an offer to work their ass off to get an offer? Another was pressured to graduate early by HR which ended up not being possible, looked like a huge tool, and didn't get an offer. Subsequently left banking.
You're young; work a 9-5, hang out with your friends, and get hammered every night.
Junior vs Sophomore Status (Originally Posted: 12/30/2011)
I'm currently a junior about to into SA recruiting. I've received permission to delay graduation by a year, but I haven't actually declared my delay yet.
Could I declare my delay after I resume drop, so that I can apply to internships as a junior? I feel like it would improve my odds.
Is there a downside to this?
i think it def helps during recruiting, but dont forget the purpose of junior sa is to secure a return ft offer - id be a wtf situation if they find it out later
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