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A lot of legends didn't have their shit together at 19, 20, or 21.

Too many people on here try to pass people off as commodities... GPA =
Top 25 etc.

It's not very difficult to see that these "bad students" are really smart people...they just didn't want to package themselves too early..

Let's get a list going...

Malcolm Gladwell - He couldn't get into Grad School and now he's shitting out best-sellers like the day after Taco Bell

Colin Powell - Shat grades from shat schools

Get a grip on some Blondes, Monkeys...They ain't lookin' for a Chess Club Captain

There's more than one way to cook a hot dog

Comments (20)

  • killfrankgoreshead's picture

    "Don't you love it when people in school are like, 'I'm a bad test taker.' You mean you're stupid. Oh, you struggle with that part where we find out what you know? I can totally relate see, because I'm a brilliant painter minus my god awful brushstrokes. Oh, how the masterpiece is crystal up here but once paint hits canvas I develop Parkinson's."

    -D Tosh

  • bumpthethread's picture

    So what if they were bad students? There's also a shitload of successful people who were good students.

    People who always talk about how a lot of successful people were bad students are just trying to make themselves feel better about their low GPA. Like it or not, grades matter.

  • WSOusername's picture

    I feel like the success = good grades connection, isnt based so much off of the "knowledge" that those good grades represent as much as what you had to do to get them. Like if I was ever in a hiring position I wudn't be looking for the 3.5+s because of "what" they know nearly as much as the fact that that 3.5 shows that they could grind....and that's who i want working for me. I'm sure there are ppl who do well in school without grinding, but having went to a non-target, I'm glad to say I didn't meet many.

    GBS

  • personofcolour's picture

    This is the kind of mentality that perpetuates the myth that Einstein wasn't a very good student. Can people with less than stellar grade point averages become successful? Of course, but usually this means that they worked extraordinarily hard at something else. Like Goldman says, a great GPA doesn't imply success, but the key underlying elements here are hard work and some intelligence. And if you don't test yourself in school to see how capable a learner you really are, you may find yourself in a nightmare down the road.

  • In reply to bumpthethread
    SonnyZH's picture

    bumpthethread wrote:
    So what if they were bad students? There's also a shitload of successful people who were good students.

    People who always talk about how a lot of successful people were bad students are just trying to make themselves feel better about their low GPA. Like it or not, grades matter.

    Of course they matter but they are by no means an indication of a person's possible success in the future. Personality, leadership and initiative are by far more important factors in determining the extent to which a person can push the limits to.

    Quote:
    The HBS guys have MAD SWAGGER. They frequently wear their class jackets to boston bars, strutting and acting like they own the joint. They just ooze success, confidence, swagger, basically attributes of alpha males.

  • In reply to personofcolour
    TheKid1's picture

    personofcolour wrote:
    This is the kind of mentality that perpetuates the myth that Einstein wasn't a very good student. Can people with less than stellar grade point averages become successful? Of course, but usually this means that they worked extraordinarily hard at something else. Like Goldman says, a great GPA doesn't imply success, but the key underlying elements here are hard work and some intelligence. And if you don't test yourself in school to see how capable a learner you really are, you may find yourself in a nightmare down the road.

    Can't getting good grades be correlated to having a easy professor and bad grade be correlated to having a terrible professor?. Though I do believe that the emphasis on GPA is a little to high, I had someone told me that they would rather hire some with high GPA with no work experience than someone with low GPA but with work experience.

  • In reply to TheKid1
    bumpthethread's picture

    TheKid1 wrote:
    Can't getting good grades be correlated to having a easy professor and bad grade be correlated to having a terrible professor?. Though I do believe that the emphasis on GPA is a little to high, I had someone told me that they would rather hire some with high GPA with no work experience than someone with low GPA but with work experience.

    Similarly, I can say that the person with low GPA but lots of work experience is simply born into a very well-off family e.g. his dad has a thick phonebook and got him a BB internship after freshman year.

  • Tommy Too-toned's picture

    Understood Monkays

    Not dissin' high grades, just sayin' a lot of legends don't see learning about accounting journal entries as somethin' productive.

    What if you want to skip a class or two, show up in Tokyo, and take a couple home witcha? No harm done right?

    At worst, a man's gonna learn how to survive in the bush

  • In reply to swagon
    Aldrich IV's picture

    swagon wrote:
    swagon - didnt go 2 high skool but started 1 of worlds top hip hop labels, now owns a fleet of tight whips and private jets, flys around the world going 2 mad cray partys

    LOL!! Yea and I won the lottery dog.

    Its all opportunity. And sacrifice. High grades doesn't mean you will be successful, but its obviously correlated somewhat.

  • In reply to TheKid1
    personofcolour's picture

    TheKid1 wrote:
    personofcolour wrote:
    This is the kind of mentality that perpetuates the myth that Einstein wasn't a very good student. Can people with less than stellar grade point averages become successful? Of course, but usually this means that they worked extraordinarily hard at something else. Like Goldman says, a great GPA doesn't imply success, but the key underlying elements here are hard work and some intelligence. And if you don't test yourself in school to see how capable a learner you really are, you may find yourself in a nightmare down the road.

    Can't getting good grades be correlated to having a easy professor and bad grade be correlated to having a terrible professor?. Though I do believe that the emphasis on GPA is a little to high, I had someone told me that they would rather hire some with high GPA with no work experience than someone with low GPA but with work experience.

    Yeah, the kinds of professors you get matters, but it is assumed that your GPA over 2-4 years of college is going to be the result of classes with professors of varying levels of difficulty. The overall trend is what matters, so I don't think people should look at a GPA and think "1 or 2 of these professors must have been extremely easy/tough."

    Like others are saying, GPA isn't the most important thing, but it matters, for some people more than others. While I agree that it can be inspiring to know that having mediocre grades isn't a death sentence, it is by no means a reason to believe that grades are no not important.

  • In reply to Aldrich IV
    swagon's picture

    Aldrich IV wrote:
    swagon wrote:
    swagon - didnt go 2 high skool but started 1 of worlds top hip hop labels, now owns a fleet of tight whips and private jets, flys around the world going 2 mad cray partys

    LOL!! Yea and I won the lottery dog.

    Its all opportunity. And sacrifice. High grades doesn't mean you will be successful, but its obviously correlated somewhat.


    nah u a hater, u aint won nor is u ever gonna win anything. cause haters always looze.

  • UFOinsider's picture

    Bad grades mean (a) you're lazy (b) you're stupid (c) you have some explaining to do. If you're still in school, stfu and go study.

    Get busy living

  • silverbasin's picture

    bumpthethread wrote:
    So what if they were bad students? There's also a shitload of successful people who were good students.

    People who always talk about how a lot of successful people were bad students are just trying to make themselves feel better about their low GPA. Like it or not, grades matter.