Worried Failure

Hello, I'm an Econ major and last semester(freshman year) I withdrew from an Econ class. I am currently retaking the class and have a 3.6 GPA disregarding the withdrawal. Do you think my chances are ruined for consulting because of the withdrawal? What would I need to do to improve my chances?

I gave up on IB since I bet my chances are pretty much ruined. Even if I am a minority

I go to Duke University.

 
futurexreject:
I'm just scared because most people here seem so perfect and competitive. I feel like, unless I have perfect social skills, a top notch gpa, amazing internships, I cannot get a job in finance.

how old are you? 18? 19? you my friend need to grow some balls... life is going to make things difficult for you because it makes getting what you want that much sweeter

practise makes perfect... these perfect social skills you speak of will only come if you work at it

Get it!
 
futurexreject:
I'm just scared because most people here seem so perfect and competitive. I feel like, unless I have perfect social skills, a top notch gpa, amazing internships, I cannot get a job in finance.

First off, most people here are in high school and spew nonsense.

Second, what you've been told already is true. If you think you are lame, everyone else is going to as well, so don't do it. You can easily overcome your GPA, lack of internships, or whatever other excuses you can come up with by being a cool dude. So many people here are all focused on "networking" and "leveraging their contacts" that they forget they're dealing with real people. Folks in the industry do not like being used, and they know when they are being "networked." Don't think of networking as some kind of event that you check a box and are done with. Be a likable dude, get an interesting hobby to talk about, then go start making friends. This will be immeasurably more valuable than having another internship on your resume.

 
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Dude, sack up. Have a little confidence in yourself and your abilities.

Are you gonna give up and quit the first time your boss yells at you for making a mistake?

And you have plenty of time to make sure that your grades and internships are strong. And the Duke network is huge on Wall Street so you shouldn't have a problem with that.

Social skills is a lot about confidence, which you are obviously sorely lacking. Force yourself out of your comfort zone and learn to loosen up and have a good time. You will be fine.

[quote=patternfinder]Of course, I would just buy in scales. [/quote] See my WSO Blog | my AMA
 

Withdrawing from a class doesn't impact your GPA so I doubt anyone will ever notice it anyway. You'll probably have to provide a transcript during interviews, but it isn't like people read every single line on there (they are especially unlikely to notice a withdrawal during your freshman year when you are applying for jobs during your senior year).

You're fine. Like others have said, focus on building your confidence.

 

People withdraw from courses for all sorts of reasons. Unless it's a withdraw fail, why would anyone even care? Also, why wouldn't a duke student with a 3.6 have a shot at IB. Duke's recruiting is very solid. So long as you put in the effort and aren't picky you're almost guaranteed an IB job.

 
Simple As...:
reddog23:
. So long as you put in the effort and aren't picky you're almost guaranteed an IB job.

That is an overstatement.

Perhaps. There's always shit that can go wrong and you never know what will happen, hence the almost. However, with a 3.6 from duke, if you put in the effort to network and don't just rely on ocr, you have just about as good of a chance as anyone. You may not end up at a BB, but there is no reason to believe you won't get something.

 
reddong23:
So long as you put in the effort and aren't picky you're almost guaranteed an IB job.

Haha, I know 3.8s at Stanford who didn't get anything in IB or MBB. Took tier-2 consulting. So a 3.6 at Duke is a guarantee for nothing. That said, OP still has a very decent chance at getting anything he wants since Duke is a target, and his GPA isn't horrendous.

 
seedy underbelly:
reddong23:
So long as you put in the effort and aren't picky you're almost guaranteed an IB job.

Haha, I know 3.8s at Stanford who didn't get anything in IB or MBB. Took tier-2 consulting. So a 3.6 at Duke is a guarantee for nothing. That said, OP still has a very decent chance at getting anything he wants since Duke is a target, and his GPA isn't horrendous.

I could be wrong but my intuition tells me that your friend considered himself above applying to regional mms/boutiques and is Asian.

 
reddog23:
seedy underbelly:
reddong23:
So long as you put in the effort and aren't picky you're almost guaranteed an IB job.

Haha, I know 3.8s at Stanford who didn't get anything in IB or MBB. Took tier-2 consulting. So a 3.6 at Duke is a guarantee for nothing. That said, OP still has a very decent chance at getting anything he wants since Duke is a target, and his GPA isn't horrendous.

I could be wrong but my intuition tells me that your friend considered himself above applying to regional mms/boutiques and is Asian.

lol how can you discern that he is asian from that description?

[quote=patternfinder]Of course, I would just buy in scales. [/quote] See my WSO Blog | my AMA
 
I could be wrong but my intuition tells me that your friend considered himself above applying to regional mms/boutiques and is Asian.

No clue as to where they applied; I just know where they ended up. and lol one of them actually is Asian. The other's Caucasian. But, seriously, how does that even matter?

 

One big mistake made by OP is indeed thinking consulting is easier to break into than banking. Sorry bro. It really isn't. In fact i have friends in the UK that actually feel consulting is a far harder field to break into than IBD because relatively speaking, they hire so few people. We're talking top tier consulting firms, so the MBBs, OWs, Monitors, etc of the world.

 

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