Ex-Wall Street Banker Suicide In Courtroom After 'Guilty' Verdict For Arson

- Former Wall Street trader
- Yale alumnus
- Climbed the Mt-Everest

''Michael Marin, 53, had just been found guilty of arson in Maricopa County Superior Court, a crime that could have put him away for nearly 16 years, the Arizona Republic reported.
About five minutes after learning his fate, a video showed him covering his mouth with his hands and swallowing, according to Fox 10 News in Phoenix.''

The video: http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/18917243/2012/06/29/man-dies-after-be…

RIP to the poor guy

 

yeah, wtf, throw away your life insurance etc b/c of this? Hell, half the battle was already over (trial, initial humiliation, etc.) why fumble in the red zone?

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!
 

Jesus... like the first response said, he wouldn't have been in for too long and he's already been through the humiliation of being found guilty. 4 kids and he threw his life away because of that? It's just insurance fraud, it's not like he shamed his family by killing/raping somebody... geesh. He couldn't have been in the right state of mind to do that. That's too bad.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

Budd Dwyer was more on the baller side of things, even though his suicide was way more gruesome/scarring than this guy's. This guy was just charged with arson/insurance fraud (as far as I assume by barely reading anything ha). Both pretty weak reasons to kill yourself though.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

Unedited version.

If you look you’ll see this guy put something in his mouth at :35, then again at 5:06, then he’s down for the count at 7:40. Wild stuff.

 

Totally irrational decision, but I'd expect no less from a Yale guy. White collar tends to view crime as a lot more serious than it is, probably because they never expected to have to deal with that in their lives. I could come up with a million better ways to scam for money than burning down my house but to each his own I guess.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 

Monkeys, watch and learn.

Your net worth should never be equal to your self-worth.

Penniless meant lifeless to him. Dude was dead inside when he struggled to pay his mortgage and wouldn't downgrade his lifestyle. It was not the verdict that killed him or enticed him to commit suicide. It was the fact that he no longer had $$$$, could no longer afford to live in a "mansion" and would have probably downgrade his social activities.

Prior to the arson, he bragged on TV about his "$800" hiking shoes. That tells you a lot about how his self-worth and net-worth intertwined. I don't want to judge a man who is no longer here to defend himself, but he would have killed himself or do something perilous regardless of the verdict as long as the money was no longer at his finger tip.

The only good thing he did was to take his life, and his only unlike the psychotic bankrupted guys who kill themselves, their children, and their spouses.

Power and Money do not change men; they only unmask them
 
Best Response
FlakieBear:
Monkeys, watch and learn.

Your net worth should never be equal to your self-worth.

Penniless meant lifeless to him. Dude was dead inside when he struggled to pay his mortgage and wouldn't downgrade his lifestyle. It was not the verdict that killed him or enticed him to commit suicide. It was the fact that he no longer had $$$$, could no longer afford to live in a "mansion" and would have probably downgrade his social activities.

Prior to the arson, he bragged on TV about his "$800" hiking shoes. That tells you a lot about how his self-worth and net-worth intertwined. I don't want to judge a man who is no longer here to defend himself, but he would have killed himself or do something perilous regardless of the verdict as long as the money was no longer at his finger tip.

Up to here I totally agree with you - very well put. For whatever reason he couldn't accept the man he became without money, even though he never really changed. For whatever reason money made him who he was, and that's a bad way to be...

The only good thing he did was to take his life, and his only unlike the psychotic bankrupted guys who kill themselves, their children, and their spouses.

There's more... elegant solutions than killing yourself. But I guess it's better than a Chris Benoit act.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 
BlackHat:
FlakieBear:
Monkeys, watch and learn.

Your net worth should never be equal to your self-worth.

Penniless meant lifeless to him. Dude was dead inside when he struggled to pay his mortgage and wouldn't downgrade his lifestyle. It was not the verdict that killed him or enticed him to commit suicide. It was the fact that he no longer had $$$$, could no longer afford to live in a "mansion" and would have probably downgrade his social activities.

Prior to the arson, he bragged on TV about his "$800" hiking shoes. That tells you a lot about how his self-worth and net-worth intertwined. I don't want to judge a man who is no longer here to defend himself, but he would have killed himself or do something perilous regardless of the verdict as long as the money was no longer at his finger tip.

Up to here I totally agree with you - very well put. For whatever reason he couldn't accept the man he became without money, even though he never really changed. For whatever reason money made him who he was, and that's a bad way to be...

The only good thing he did was to take his life, and his only unlike the psychotic bankrupted guys who kill themselves, their children, and their spouses.

There's more... elegant solutions than killing yourself. But I guess it's better than a Chris Benoit act.

You summed my point perfectly

"money made him who he was and he couldn't accept the man he became without money"

I do think that money and power do not change people. They only unmask them.

Power and Money do not change men; they only unmask them
 

6 months? That's it? WTF??? Seriously bad value system, dude could have cut back his lifestyle and finished out his life happily. I'm between sad for the guy for feeling like he had to do all that, and being pissed off for him being such a huge asshole.

Get busy living
 
UFOinsider:
6 months? That's it? WTF??? Seriously bad value system, dude could have cut back his lifestyle and finished out his life happily. I'm between sad for the guy for feeling like he had to do all that, and being pissed off for him being such a huge asshole.

not sure where you guys pull that 6 months. I heard 16 years.

I could be wrong.

Power and Money do not change men; they only unmask them
 
FlakieBear:
UFOinsider:
6 months? That's it? WTF??? Seriously bad value system, dude could have cut back his lifestyle and finished out his life happily. I'm between sad for the guy for feeling like he had to do all that, and being pissed off for him being such a huge asshole.

not sure where you guys pull that 6 months. I heard 16 years.

I could be wrong.

Also heard 16 years. I'm sure he could have gotten a reduced sentence so maybe that's where people got it from but no idea.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 

first time offenders aren't going to get the max sentence. first time offenders usually get off really easy.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 
Edmundo Braverman:
I'm going to have to write a post about what it's like to have a bunch of money and then lose it. Trust me when I say there is nothing worse in the world (not even the death of a loved one).

go ahead, I'd love to read your reasoning to this. i'm sure it depends on the person.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 
wolverine19x89:
i'm sure it depends on the person.

Indeed. Let's hope all of the wings players go broke.

o look, it's already started lol

 
Edmundo Braverman:
I'm going to have to write a post about what it's like to have a bunch of money and then lose it. Trust me when I say there is nothing worse in the world (not even the death of a loved one).

Make sure you mention ex-detroit red wings, Darren Mccarthy.

 

I don't think any of you have read the vid description on Liveleak...(who knows if this is right or not)

"No one was injured in the blaze but the charge of committing arson of an occupied structure holds the same number of years in prison in Arizona as second-degree murder."

 

lol fuck you Abdel... he was doing commentary on NHL networks, I'm really not sure why he's working at a pawn shop. He did start a lil while after their show got established though.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 
Edmundo Braverman:

I'm going to have to write a post about what it's like to have a bunch of money and then lose it. Trust me when I say there is nothing worse in the world (not even the death of a loved one).

Either you are being sarcastic or stupid. Can't decide which.

 

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