Resume Help, Trading Resume
Hey,
I was wanting some general reviews of my resume, and also was wondering if the highlights at the top about me were too much or OK.
FYI This would be for a trading position, thus the lengthy details of my poker playing
Thanks guys!
My instinct says that you should lengthen the section on your internship at Toro.
what do you mean by professional poker player? were you on the WSOP or just playing cash games? you can't really call yourself a pro on your resume if you just played cash games because there is no documentation..if WSOP then you need to elaborate more about your tournaments/placings/rankings/winnings/etc etc etc..those things can be easily looked up by your future employer and you don't want to look like another chump that plays poker on the side and calls himself a pro..also fix the format of the resume.
Hey,
I had to file taxes as a professional player for over 4 years, so along with my statistics and play history there is plenty of documentation ;)
Thanks for the advice again though!
If you earn over 100k annually from playing poker it should be included on the resume without a question. Much less than that its simply not a meaningful amount to list. Poker and resumes are something that have been discussed here before but its a pretty touchy subject that tends to be hit or miss. The problem is you are at the mercy of the person first reading your resume and getting them to move it into the yes pile. Even at a interview its something that can be difficult to talk about it really depends on the person and being able to size them up and decide if you should discuss poker is a skill entirely in itself.
I completely agree here. I don't play anymore, but yes I did earn over 6 figures.
I wish I was at the easy end of the spectrum and didn't need to list poker because I came from an Ivy League, but I'm simply not in that position. I feel poker is great experience, and the first two interviews have agreed. I think it may also lose me some interviews, but I think without any experience and coming from the school I did, I doubt I would've gotten the interview regardless.
I think my poker experience translates amazingly well, and if they agree it gives me a shot at a job I don't think I would have gotten otherwise.
I'm going to attach a new resume to a new post I guess, as it seems I cannot attach one here to a reply
It wasn't clear to me that your "risk management experience" had to do with your poker playing.
Nevermind I was able to attach the 2nd revision to my post.
FYI, That line you see is a line in the site, obviously my Morehead, KY part doesn't go over the side or anything!
Here is another question:
I just want to work in finance and go to NYC. I'll be trying for trading positions first and foremost, because I feel they fit me best, and it is something I really enjoy.
Since my resume is 'meh' with the college, even with the 4.0, I will gladly do other positions as well to get my foot in the door. Does anyone have any ideas for jobs people might see me as more fit for? As in, that I would be more likely to be hired for? Does my business and client work lead to a much better chance of me getting a job sell-side?
This would be my last resort as I much prefer a trading position, but I thought I would ask regardless.
Put numbers in the poker section. "Won XXX" "Placed 4th in a field of 6,000 in the Pokerstars Sunday Million" "Earned X ROI over X No Limit Holdem Sit N' Gos..." you catch my drift. Otherwise you could come off as a degenerate gambler.
Which bullet point do you think something like:
" Earned over $100,000 while playing cash games between ages 16 and 20 while maintaining my school work and other endeavors"
should go? Just put it first?
Thanks for the insight again!
Here is an updated version on Razume
http://www.razume.com/documents/17145
You used the poker site to pay for 100% of your expenses but you were on a full ride....that looks kinda weird. The fourth bullet point under Toro makes it sound like you sat around and played with yourself while skimming yahoo finance, might what to tweak the wording there. Kept your risk of ruin low??? Are you a ship's Captain in the Spanish Armada? The fact that you're getting a chapter published in a book about poker is just as impressive, if not more, than 100k over 4 years in returns, might want to play that up.
Thanks.
For your points, I did obviously have food, books, car, rent, et cetera expenses. I will try to tweak that.
I will try to somehow change the wording on the toro part.
In poker we often use ROR when talking about bankroll management, is that not remotely a term used by traders? I will try to find an alternate, I thought it was pretty normal.
K, I will move the published info up to the top with the poker parts.
I've heard the term but in this context it just sounds weird. I am not a poker player at all so I could be completely off on this but my initial reaction was that it sounded strange. Don't change it if it's accurate to what you are describing.
your resume is looking better but it could get much better
you have a very interesting story that could get you noticed but you just need to present yourself better
you need 1) expected graduating year and include locations for your internships 2) list a few relevant coursework (finance electives relevant to trading) 3 Include SAT's if they're over 1400 (1300's you could put down wont hurt really) 4) "spent 70% of your time learning" sounds like you're shooting the wind not doing anything. the idea is fine but you should say you learned extensively about options while doing something objective for the traders 5)take page 1 off the resume
Here is my 3rd draft with I think mostly what people mentioned.
http://www.razume.com/documents/17156
heres an idea. coach me in poker to show some more leadership experience on your resume
I gotta agree with SanFran here man. It's just such an unusual thing. But I would definitely edit 'nearly every computer program,' Just list them. If you can say I know XYZ, XZY, YYX,CAA, DDS etc computer programs, that will look better and the sheer volume of the programs listed could impress a non-computer HR person.
A WSO Resume Review is seriously worth looking into.
Main problem with listing is the space constraints.
Basically I would list:
Microsoft Office(Powerpoint, Excel, Word) Dreamweaver, Adobe Photoshop, Swish(Flash animator), Other WYSIWYG editors, as well as Cpanel, phpMyAdmin, MySQL databases, and any FTP programs on the server side of things.
I used to run a web design/programming business as well that I haven't listed in my resume because I ran it from like 12-15, although I did win some awards and such for my desgins.
Yep I agree with the crowd here, definitely a unique candidate and since you have earned a large amount playing poker it needs to be on there. I would try to quantify as much as possible, however the problem is even some people that know poker very well wont know what a 4.3bb/100 winrate over a 5 million hand sample really means. If you played tournaments you could list where you rank on OPR not sure if tableratings has a ranking feature.
You could definitely benefit from some sort of professional resume service.
-you're winnings from poker are unverifiable unless you list a specific tournament and the prize won.
-your college is not legitimate
Hey,
I unfortunately can't do anything with the college.
I have graphs and tax returns to verify my winnings. Most/all of my winnings were before pokertableratings, so I won't have anything there
@ New Yorker www.tableratings.com Cash game dataminer.
I've also decided that since I am at such a non-target school that I am going to teach myself C++ over the next 6-8 months before I graduate to help me get my foot in the door, even though I don't want to be programming long-term.
Revision 3.
Once I get the valuation and some more feedback from you guys and my career services then I will start working on my cover letter and start sending out resume's to companies.
I hope this is closer to being acceptable.
http://www.razume.com/documents/17289
IMO, your resume is not consistent with the job you are seeking.
At first glance, I see you want to be a teacher, a writer, a poker player, a trader & an entrepneur! Well which one is it??
Your line in your resume about publication of the book does not sound right, try something like 'Featured writer in upcoming book'. You do not need to be specific of how many words/chapters you are writing, that's what the interview is for. Be brief, be concise, be professional.. thats what you need to do in your resume.
When your talking about teaching, you should make it sound professional and sweet for example 'Teaching Assistant for Options class'. BAM we get it! You don't need to say, 'Taught delta strategies to 24 students from 11:00AM to 5:00PM'.
For your jobs, you need to put a TITLE, so put Trading Analyst at Toro Trading LLC (Intern)
For your site, you need to put something more professional like, Owner of RakeTakers, an online website. Why are you getting a valuation, or in process? Why would I care as an employer that you are getting a valuation? By whom anyways?
You have 5 lines under your RakeTakers, please just liist the 2-3 best ones. Make it sound proffesional. Say VERB --> explanation..
For the professional poker player, this should be in ECs, and shouldn't take up more than 2 lines.
For socialactivities: did you really write your homecoming king?
Thanks for everything. The valuation was highlighted, meant to be a note to you guys. It will be changed.
Poker is a huge part and a big reason I have got the jobs I have, as well as the nterest I have gotten from hedge funds. It will definitely keep where it is.
I don't know what to do for social. With everything I have, it is all introverted. The career services place I went said mentioning that I am that well known on campus and can win an election shows good team work and social skills, but yes, I also think it sounds lame.
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