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Associate Salary Post MBA: $100,000 (30% tax)...$70,000
Signing Bonus (50% Fed+State/Local): $50,000...$18,000
Revenue: $88,000

Apartment in New York City: (2,000x12+Utilities): 30,000
Paying off your Bschool Interest and 10% Principal: 20,000
Coffee, Eating Lunch, Drinking, Prozac due to your Neurotic VP: 15,000
Drycleaning: 1,000
1 week vacation: 2,000

Net Revenue Per Hour: $22/hr (Equivalent Career: Gaming supervisor, Subway operator, Urban Planner)
Net Profit Assuming Modest Lifestyle: $20,000
Net Profit Per Hour ($4.90) ...

Having Pursued that Princeton BA, Harvard MBA, and getting shat on by your Greenwich commuting MD at 2am for a misplaced comma: Priceless

Comments (11)

  • eiffeltowered's picture

    the 50% federal figure was an assumption if the proposed VT legislation gets passed...obviously a bit exaggerated, but illustrative of what may happen under the new tax regime. Didn't factor in the stub bonus, but in bear markets like last year, GS paid as low as 5-10K, so it may not be a good assumption to add in the 40 or so expected this year...anyhow, if you add the 40 and tax it at the 50 federal, the numbers do change, but the oppty cost (hours worked, not having command of your schedule, lack of exit opps as an associate relative to analysts, etc) needs to be incorporated as well...

  • MrDouche's picture

    Your general point is correct, but your numbers are wildly off base.

    1. Like many on this board, a basic understanding of marginal tax rates, federal, state, and local is what any bonus--unless this bill which won't pass--is what any additional income will be taxed at. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rate
    I'm surprised that so many people equivocate withholding and taxation.

    2. Your costs at New York are way too low unless you live in a real crap hole and drink Jaegermeister. It doesn't happen.

    3. You're assuming some pretty high B-loans. Most associates come out with about 110k in student loans and amortize it over 20 years so they can blow more money on expensive shoes.

    I have said it many times: find me a banker (outside of trading) under 30 with a modest net worth for their age (e.g. 700k+) who didn't get handouts from mommy. All my banker buddies from my cohort and college don't have much, and the ones that do, didn't earn it.

    Start your own business after your time as an analyst. The training is good but the compensation is weak.

    I rich, smarts, and totally in debt.

  • BananaStand's picture

    I'd say you should build in the bonus, but truth is, in this market, no one should be counting on any sort of bonus for liquidity.

    I'd love to see 1st year Associate (full year) bonuses come out at $150K-$200K or better (i.e. 2006-2007 levels), but let's be honest, this year's bonus pool is going to have significantly more stock than the past.

    So, even a $150K bonus might only net $45K in cash after taxes ($150K x (1-Taxes) = $90K x 50% cash component = $45K. That's real $, but that's not going to make a huge dent on student loans.