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Goldman to notify Summer Analysts in NOVEMBER for certain divisions

I have heard directly from a professor at my school who knows students that interned at Goldman over the summer and they said they will not hear until NOVEMBER.

Goldman is going to merge with another bank. I can't see anyway for them to continue to exist with the independent investment bank model.

Looks like the long wait just got a whole lot longer.

What in the world is going at Goldman for them to wait over 2 months to notify their summer analysts?

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KillerMike's picture

Goldman's CFO sounded like

Goldman's CFO sounded like he'd rather fuck a goat than merge with a commercial bank

gladiator's picture

Brilliant. Time to accept my

Brilliant.

Time to accept my offers from other banks. Oh wait, there are none left. Fuck.

CrossFit's picture

Straight from Goldman

Straight from Goldman recruiter's mouth...

Apparently they had made offer decisions, then were told to "reevaluate" those decisions, then were told AGAIN to "reevaluate" the decisions. Didn't talk of any timeline, though.

Investor1's picture

David Viniar will soon see

David Viniar will soon see the end of an independent Goldman Sachs.

noelle37's picture

Which divisions?

IBD, S&T, GSAM?

strato22's picture

Deustche already notified,

Deustche already notified, the joys of already having a strong commercial arm.

indian-banker's picture

deutsche notified a long

deutsche notified a long time ago. 26th august to be precise.

oasising's picture

Deutsche notified this past

Deutsche notified this past Friday, at least for their interns from my school.

untilted's picture

for IBD, DB notified on sept

for IBD, DB notified on sept 12th.

S&T, much earlier.

Devils Advocate's picture

November? Why the hell would

November?

Why the hell would they do that? What is going on over there?

L's picture

Nov. makes sense

in case you guys haven't noticed, the markets pretty messed up right now..

it is probably a better decision for both Goldman and its Summer analysts to wait until November to "reevaluate" business needs/headcount for the next summer year. this should result on them not having to rescind any offers if things don't work out

as you saw with LEH, A LOT can change in just a few weeks (and even more can change between November & july 2009) so waiting longer should give a more accurate of next years needs.

grandpabuzz's picture

I don't buy November. They

I don't buy November. They just came to my campus today to recruit for FT. So would they choose FT employees from other banks before they choose FT employees from their intern class?

KillerMike's picture

well maybe they just won't

well maybe they just won't tell ft interviews until november as well

doublediamond111's picture

JPM has delayed offers for

JPM has delayed offers for some as well

Devils Advocate's picture

Not Hiring

grandpabuzz wrote:

I don't buy November. They just came to my campus today to recruit for FT. So would they choose FT employees from other banks before they choose FT employees from their intern class?

Because they have no intention of actually hiring anyone from your school.

WxOnWallStreet's picture

What divisions of JPM have

What divisions of JPM have had offers delayed? It was my understanding that all offers were made to the SA's at the conclusion of their internship (Aug 8th).

models_and_bottles's picture

Quote: JPM has delayed

Quote:

JPM has delayed offers for some as well

This is false. All JPM IBD interns were notified of decisions on their last day.

Of course, they "honored" all of their offers last year, but forced some of those into the commercial and private banks.

ChelseaFC85's picture

Gs offers came out today

Gs offers came out today

bkm125's picture

JPM

JP Morgan gave their summers a Sept. 15th deadline to accept offers.

WxOnWallStreet's picture

Is it typical for offers to

Is it typical for offers to be extended mid-Aug and expire mid-Sept?

gladiator's picture

hmm...

ChelseaFC85 wrote:

Gs offers came out today

All divisions? IBD, S&T, etc.?

Phone call? Email?

b2's picture

Unless the bank has a

Unless the bank has a contract with your school, typical deadline is 4 weeks.

WxOnWallStreet's picture

Definitly no help from my

Definitly no help from my school in that regard. Thanks.

ChelseaFC85's picture

My buddy's girlfriend worked

My buddy's girlfriend worked in IBD and got a phone call yesterday from someone in her group. Good luck....

strato22's picture

Deadlines

I know that my offer expired in 4 weeks, but over at Harvard any people that interview on campus have to wait until at least December before forcing students to commit, lucky bastards.

ibdizzle's picture

hey strato

did you get your gs offer from ibd? what are the terms and such?

phantombanker's picture

"I have heard directly from

"I have heard directly from a professor at my school who knows students that interned at Goldman over the summer and they said they will not hear until NOVEMBER."

Sounds like a pretty definitive statement!

Devils Advocate's picture

You guys still have not

You guys still have not heard anything?

bigboy22's picture

At least ER has heard, IBD

At least ER has heard, IBD and S&T are another couple of weeks.

unct91's picture

all this is hearsay

i spoke with my friend, at goldman SA in S&T, today and was told that no offers or rejections have been handed out----absolutely no word at all, in fact

Gini's picture

S&T offers at GS haven't

S&T offers at GS haven't been made yet, neither acceptances nor rejections....will take "several more weeks".

seekingvega's picture

offers came out today for S & T

3 categories:
Getting an offer to a specific group
Rejected
"Still under consideration"

hardbanker's picture

Can anyone confirm if IBD

Can anyone confirm if IBD came out today?

gladiator's picture

IBD offers came out a day

IBD offers came out a day after Buffett made his move. LOL.

Ratatouille's picture

How were they? high

How were they? high conversion?

bigboy22's picture

People are being notified at

People are being notified at different times--yesterday was the first day. Offer rate depends on group and the office (I have heard pretty low numbers so far, but not 100% sure).

McGyver's picture

FT offers starting now for

FT offers starting now for IBD then trading. Underclassmen offers come out mid october.

indian-banker's picture

Maybe Buffet invested

Maybe Buffet invested 7.5billion usd just so SA's would find out about their offers.

MattFin's picture

Has anyone else heard anything?

I'm still waiting to hear back from them since the phone call from HR. Can someone confirm offers are going out?

Clueless Wanderer's picture

Having spoken to my friends,

Having spoken to my friends, who were GS SAs, some offers have gone out and some people have been put on hold.

BrokenWings's picture

Ditto

I've heard similar responses... SAs have either received offers or they've been put on a waiting list. Seems like GS is pitting their SAs against the current pool of applicants.

McGyver's picture

What is the offer rate

What is the offer rate looking like? I have been hearing sub 30% but that is off very few observations.

Ratatouille's picture

Heard the S&T class was 50%,

see the first hand knowledge below

ihavenomoneynow's picture

All GS Securities heard last

All GS Securities heard last Thursday or Friday. Offer rates were definitely below 50%. Those who had the thumbs up from the group got a specific offer, whereas those who were in the running got rejected. Several kids I know who had the thumbs up were put on hold- guess their groups had a hiring freeze. At my target ivy in the high single digit sample size, 2 out of 8...

IBD kids started hearing back last Friday, though I believe different groups are letting kids know at different times.

oh ya, and this is first hand knowledge.

McGyver's picture

I actually know for a fact

I actually know for a fact that ihavenomoneynow 's claim is not entirely true. For one, underclassmen in securities do not find out until mid october. Additionally, I was informed that there was a preliminary wave of offers (and rejections) that went out last thursday and friday. Early this week I had talked to others in my class who had not gotten an official call yet.

McGyver's picture

and I was a securities SA,

and I was a securities SA, so this is also first hand

McGyver's picture

and I was a securities SA,

and I was a securities SA, so this is also first hand

McGyver's picture

and I was a securities SA,

and I was a securities SA, so this is also first hand

McGyver's picture

and I was a securities SA,

and I was a securities SA, so this is also first hand

McGyver's picture

and I was a securities SA,

and I was a securities SA, so this is also first hand