Master's in Finance or Accounting?
I'm interested in getting into corporate finance at a fortune 500 or investment bank and eventually getting into an equity fund or venture capital/private equity related. Do you guys think I should pursue a MS in Finance or Accounting? I feel like coursework in Finance is more basic whereas in Accounting it's more in thorough and in depth, but which looks better on your resume?
Also, there really are no good programs where I live, so I'm not doing this for a strong recruitment network, but am rather hoping it will make myself more attractive to employers and b-school, especially since I graduated with a BA in econ and didn't get stellar grades. Think this is a good/bad idea?
Your undergrad grades won't matter when you get your MSF/MSA degree. You will have difficulty finding a job if you're 1) an international student and 2) seeking BB investment banking positions. BBs don't hire masters students into their analyst pool
I don't think this is true.
Not true...if it's just after doing a bachelors degree, its fine...a few of my buddies went to top BBs after doing either masters in accounting or finance
I think it's more rare in the U.S. The vast majority of BB 1st years are kids fresh out of undergrad programs.
In Europe, average 1st year analyst age is like 26 because a good chunk of them have graduate degrees
Don't do a master of accounting unless you want to do accounting. Accounting knowledge is important but you don't need a whole degree in it unless you want to do it.
And any graduate program within the business/finance realm should have some sort of network tied to it, or else you'll end up where you are now, even if you got better grades in your masters program. Why don't you consider moving to go to a better program?
Accounting as a degree is useless for practical purposes, because you end up discussing things like "what is an asset", "when a sale becomes a sale", etc. Unless you are into theory - don't do it. Finance is better, it is less boring, more fun and gives you way more "general" knowledge, which can be a bit useful in IBD.
My 2c
Spoken by a true jacka**. Clearly, you have no concept of investment banking or business.
I got a MA in accounting, and am going to get a MA in fin Eng I think to branch into finance (its been about 6 years since my 1 year masters). Although my initial goal was to work big 4 a few years and then get a MBA later, so I guess I somewhat stuck to that
If you want to do finance/banking, get a finance degree not an accounting degree. But be aware of what your job prospects would be in each area when you make the decision .
A lot of it depends on the schools that you're looking at for MAcc or MSF. If you get into Princeton's MSF program like bcbunker, then I say go for that. However, you should do your own reserach for the non-top tier MSF programs and figure out how much recruiting they get.
I recently graduated and had both options, but eventually chose to do the MAcc after researching the both schools' placements. The MSF I got into is well regarded in the US, but I could not get a read on how well they place students going right after undergrad. Whereas, the MAcc I got into is one of the top programs in the country and I saw definitive placements by students into IB or Corp Fin coming out of the program. So, just make sure you do your own research on any program you get into.
I dont know why people looking to break into banking dont just get a masters in whatever from an ivy school. You have a finance UG. Go to Penn or Dartmouth and get a masters in literature so you can mooch off the alumni. When they ask why finance just tell them you wanted to pursue a passion you had since childhood for one year before you devote yourself to banking. It will make you an interesting candidate and you will be just as qualified as the UG kid from an ivy who got a liberal arts degree.
We got people trying to go to Duke for a MMS degree which is a watered down MBA. People will pay 40-50K for a name on their resume, why not just go to the liberal arts school. MFin from Princeton and a MA in History from Princeton will still let you have PRINCETON in bold on your resume. I mean if this is what we have come to you might as well have fun with it.
I hear over and over and over how prestige and GPA are all the matters in banking. You sure as hell dont need a MSF, MSCF, MFin, etc to succeed in banking.
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See, thats what I meant. I went to Villanova and learned a lot about finance. Great network, but you do not need a graduate level understanding of finance to break into banking. I love finance so I enjoyed it, but if I was advising someone I would tell them to go for the name and network first and foremost.
Gotta factor in work experience too. 1st year analysts may have prior work experience in Europe (London in particular) but that's rare in the U.S.
In London, the average first year analyst seems to be 21 - 22, just like in WS. However, in the rest of Europe, school tends to end around 19 and in some countries gap years are very common. Bring into consideration, a four year degree along with a Masters and you're looking at a 25-26 year old analyst. I'll be around that age when I start working FT too.
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