NBA Dunk Contest

Wow, the first round was amazing! I thought that the contest was back on track, but then they gave Demar a lower score than he deserved, then Blake Griffin got out a car and finally, McGee's dunk was just blah and I was like FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!

Anyone else watch it?

 

Best dunk contest in history. Serge was robbed, should have been in the 48-49 range for both dunks. Both of Demar's dunks were incredible. Blake's first dunk of the 1st round and 1st of the second round were spectacular, the others were just blah (including the car one), Javale's first dunk of the second round was just ridiculous (the one where he dunked backwards going away from the rim.) Hate the fact that the fans determined the winner, but any one of those guys would have won easily in any other year. Spectacular performances all around. Every dunker had at least two dunks that were better than the best dunk each year for the past 15 years.

 

What I want to know is how Barkley ever got a commentating job. Seriously when i listen to him commentate basketball i want to blow my fucking brains out. Ok yes we all know you think the Mavericks have a deep roster, you only said it 15 fucking times in a row. (Yes I am a Mavericks fan) I cant take his excessive repetitions of absolutely every damn thing he says

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heister:
What I want to know is how Barkley ever got a commentating job. Seriously when i listen to him commentate basketball i want to blow my fucking brains out. Ok yes we all know you think the Mavericks have a deep roster, you only said it 15 fucking times in a row. (Yes I am a Mavericks fan) I cant take his excessive repetitions of absolutely every damn thing he says

The same way Lou Holtz got a commentating job...

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HPM:
The same way Lou Holtz got a commentating job...

Holtz is actually charming though. I especially like when he loses the court debate thing they do and he procedes to throw a fit and yell at everyone.

 

Agree overall the contest was good. DeRozan's second dunk was ridiculous, and Javale's under the backboard fade away thing dunk was also crazy.

Blake Griffin over the car was decent, give me a break it was the hood of the car, people just assumed it was far better than Javales. Whatever

 

^^^He's definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed and almost unbearable when it comes to regular commentary (as is almost everybody on that team not named Van Gundy), however he was funny tonight. He had a few zingers that actually made me laugh out loud.

 

Charming with a lisp that makes me want to drive nails through my eyelids.

Someone on this site once phrased it as 'not having a lisp should be the second requirement for being a commentator after not being a mute.'

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You guys have got to be kidding me. That was fucking terrible. Blakes arm in rim, DeRozan's 2nd, the free throw line (legitimately behind unlike every other one in the past), and the double ball dunk (to a lesser extent) were the only good dunks. Sorry, I'm not impressed by someone taking 10 tries to finish the dunk or by two 7'0" centers dunking the ball in a mildly athletic fashion. Dwight Howard is an exception. The dunking 3 balls??? All he did was quickly put two balls in and then volleyball spike the third. And don't even get me started with all the bullshit entertainment thrown in. It didn't even matter about the dunk, it was whoever hyped up the crowd the most. I wish DeRozan would have made his 1st dunk on the 1st or 2nd try cause he should have made it to the finals. I thought Griffin was going to put on a show but he only had one good dunk.

And every dunker had 2 dunks that were better than the best dunk for the past 15 years??? You are off your rocker.

 
hootyhoo:
You guys have got to be kidding me. That was fucking terrible. Blakes arm in rim, DeRozan's 2nd, the free throw line (legitimately behind unlike every other one in the past), and the double ball dunk (to a lesser extent) were the only good dunks. Sorry, I'm not impressed by someone taking 10 tries to finish the dunk or by two 7'0" centers dunking the ball in a mildly athletic fashion. Dwight Howard is an exception. The dunking 3 balls??? All he did was quickly put two balls in and then volleyball spike the third. And don't even get me started with all the bullshit entertainment thrown in. It didn't even matter about the dunk, it was whoever hyped up the crowd the most. I wish DeRozan would have made his 1st dunk on the 1st or 2nd try cause he should have made it to the finals. I thought Griffin was going to put on a show but he only had one good dunk.

And every dunker had 2 dunks that were better than the best dunk for the past 15 years??? You are off your rocker.

What are you 12 years old, is this the first dunk contest you've seen? The quality of this year was so much higher than that of year's past I can't even describe it. You would've really hated dunk contests in the past if those dunks were shit to you. You're not impressed by a 6'11 man legitimately dunking from the free throw line (nobody has ever dunked from the free throw line like that before in history, that was first ever where he lept from legitimately behind the line - and he's 6'11 250 pounds!) Spare me your three balls argument, that shit was impressive. Not impressed because he "volley ball spiked the third?" You have to be kidding me. You know the kind of dexterity and quickness that takes? Enough dexterity and quickness that it's never been done before because nobody thought they could do it. You didn't like Serge getting high enough to bite the toy out of the air with that level of body control and explosiveness? Ok there...

Yes two dunks better than every dunk of the past 15 years. Name me the best dunk of the past 15 years? The Vince Carter? The Superman? Over any of those dunks I'd gladly take Griffin's first (360 crazy windmill don't know how to describe it, almost fell out of chair when saw it) and Griffin's third (crazy elbow in rim off of backboard), any two of Javale McGee's first three dunks (the two hoops, the three balls in one hoop, and the ridiculous behind the back one), both of Derozan's dunks and both of Serge's dunks (the first of which was more impressive than the Jordan free throw line dunk that everybody seems to think is the greatest dunk ever.) So yeah, I pretty much stand by that statement there buddy.

And, even if you disagree, not too sure I'd label it as "terrible." Oh, and in case this was your first dunk contest, every year it takes them several tries to complete their dunks, sometimes they don't get a dunk off or they go to a Plan B or Plan C. With the degree of difficulty this year, amazing that only once did a guy have to go to his Plan B (which was still a pretty spectacular dunk.)

 

If you read my post I said I thought the free throw line dunk was good, because of the exact same reason that you stated. And no the three balls was not that difficult. ANY 7'0" person can dunk two balls. Not even a basketball player. If you hold both balls up in the air and jump, it takes very little time and effort for a athletic 7'0" person to dunk both. Spike the third, big whoop. And Blake Girffin's first dunk?????....It was a 360!!!! There was no windmill AT ALL!! He simply bent his elbow and kept the ball there while spinning. EXACTLY like the statue of liberty 360 dunks they were talking about before the contest except he bent his elbow....thats it!! I admit that when he first attempted it that it looked nuts! But once you actually look at it, it was nothing more than a 360.

And just to put it in perspective...McGee's last attempt was a 360 windmill that BARELY went it (although they didn't count that as his dunk for some reason)...to which compared with Vince Carter's 360 windmill was a fucking embarrassment. Oh and he's 7'0".

The other 7'0" reached up and adjusted the teddy bear 4" from the rim while standing on the ground!!!!! How is plucking that with his teeth impressive when Gerald Green blew out a candle on the rim and his head was even higher than his and he was only 6'6". Hell McGee was higher than him on his very last dunk.

And didn't they use to have only 2 attempts for each dunk??? Now its 2 minutes.

 
hootyhoo:
If you read my post I said I thought the free throw line dunk was good, because of the exact same reason that you stated. And no the three balls was not that difficult. ANY 7'0" person can dunk two balls. Not even a basketball player. If you hold both balls up in the air and jump, it takes very little time and effort for a athletic 7'0" person to dunk both. Spike the third, big whoop.

The funny thing is the guy dunked two balls on two hoops the first time and then three balls not two balls. Easy for a seven footer huh? Guess you're the expert on degree of difficulty for a seven footer. Funny, Barkley (who while not the greatest genius in the world is brutally honest) seemed to be quite impressed. The level of timing and dexterity necessary is through the roof on this one, I'm not going to agree with you no matter how you try to downplay it. I was blown away by it and still am.

hootyhoo:
And Blake Girffin's first dunk?????....It was a 360!!!! There was no windmill AT ALL!! He simply bent his elbow and kept the ball there while spinning. EXACTLY like the statue of liberty 360 dunks they were talking about before the contest except he bent his elbow....thats it!! I admit that when he first attempted it that it looked nuts! But once you actually look at it, it was nothing more than a 360.

Funny, I can say that about any dunk in history, such as "he only put it through his legs" or "he only spun" or "he only..." A dunk is a combination of several factors (A) Degree of difficulty (B) Body Control (C) Ingenuity (D) Combining these things to present an image...Blake's first dunk, which was quite difficult because any 360 is difficult and his had added body control and precision involved in that he held the ball behind his head and twisted it and did something else which I don't know how to describe, mixed with the power of the dunk, came together to form a beautiful image of a dunk. An utterly spectacular dunk, more impressive than Vince's best dunk that one year.

hootyhoo:
And just to put it in perspective...McGee's last attempt was a 360 windmill that BARELY went it (although they didn't count that as his dunk for some reason)...to which compared with Vince Carter's 360 windmill was a fucking embarrassment. Oh and he's 7'0".

I agree, I didn't like Javale's last dunk, I never mentioned it once. Please read the post before responding, I said two out of any first three dunks, which I stand by. I also didn't like Blake's last dunk or Blake's alley-oop tomahawk. Sure, they were more impressive than your average dunk but nothing too out of control for a dunk contest.

hootyhoo:
The other 7'0" reached up and adjusted the teddy bear 4" from the rim while standing on the ground!!!!! How is plucking that with his teeth impressive when Gerald Green blew out a candle on the rim and his head was even higher than his and he was only 6'6". Hell McGee was higher than him on his very last dunk.

Disagree, Serge's dunk was very impressive. Again, you are discounting the importance and difficulty of body control here and only boiling it down to height and size. So much more goes into a dunk. Serge's dunk was far cleaner than Green's, was timed perfectly and was executed with a level of power and precision that Green didn't get near. Green had a gimmick to highlight the amount of height he would get, which he was able to barely execute though the dunk itself was nothing to write home about. Serge combined height with precision, control and power and pulled it off so clean and beautiful it was like a masterpiece, and the dunk itself was very nice, he had nice movement on the ball going to the rim. I stand by this dunk as well, I thought it was spectacular.

hootyhoo:
And didn't they use to have only 2 attempts for each dunk??? Now its 2 minutes.

It's been like that for a long time now. Can't even remember last time I saw the two dunk rule in effect. I remember Bird Man 10 years ago attempting about 300 dunks before he finally put one down.

 

I label it terrible because it is no longer about the dunks. It's about who can come up with the most ridiculous shit to impress the fans. It took 5 minutes for Blake Griffin to set up his final dunk which was mediocre at best. I've watched every dunk contest and while this contest had more "creativity", that doesn't mean the dunks were good.

 
hootyhoo:
I label it terrible because it is no longer about the dunks. It's about who can come up with the most ridiculous shit to impress the fans. It took 5 minutes for Blake Griffin to set up his final dunk which was mediocre at best. I've watched every dunk contest and while this contest had more "creativity", that doesn't mean the dunks were good.

I don't go for the glitz and glamour either. The one dunk that Blake took forever to set up was his worst dunk of the night. I go for a combination of all the factors that go into a well executed dunk.

 
hootyhoo:
I label it terrible because it is no longer about the dunks. It's about who can come up with the most ridiculous shit to impress the fans. It took 5 minutes for Blake Griffin to set up his final dunk which was mediocre at best. I've watched every dunk contest and while this contest had more "creativity", that doesn't mean the dunks were good.

So true.

Griffin's car dunk was nothing. Anyone who can dunk from there can bend their knees enough to get over the headlights of a small sedan. All presentation, no substance (what a coincidence that Kia is the "car of the NBA" and the announcers kept saying how beautiful the car was). His name won that contest. Those judges sucked balls. Serge got absolutley robbed..a 7-footer from behind the FT line??? That's a 50 any day of the week (he got 45). He was farther behind the line than Dr.J or MJ. Should have been a historic dunk. That said, the teddy-bear one was only OK. It surely isn't easy to get your mouth up that high and bite a bear, but the dunk itself was just a normal slam. Overall though, McGee shoulda won. The double-basket dunk was ridiculous, and so was the reverse one, especially since he had to duck/twist to keep from hitting his head on the backboard. Negative points for that whole mom shit though..kissing the judges (at least Dr J got some haha). Great dunks in this contest, but the judging could not have been much worse.

edit: Oh, and regarding Blake's reverse-360 dunk: watch his first missed attempt compared to the one he finally made. On the first one, he does a full fake, reverse tomahowk, and then tries to dunk. It looked incredible (would have been the best dunk period). By the time his made attempt comes around, he barely even fakes the straight dunk, brings the ball to only his head, and then dunks. Not even close to similar, but everyone still had that insane first attempt in their minds...Yet another mind game.

 
ibintx:
By the time his made attempt comes around, he barely even fakes the straight dunk, brings the ball to only his head, and then dunks. Not even close to similar, but everyone still had that insane first attempt in their minds...Yet another mind game.

Not as good as the first attempt does not somehow automatically equal not great. There are levels to everything, the second attempt that went in was still spectacular...spectacular to execute a dunk like that.

Agree with most of your other points.

 

the fix was in from the beginning. the nba wants griffen to be a huge star and they saw this as an opportunity to highlight a good player on a shitty team. Griffen had a solid performance but i felt the other three guys never had a legit chance at winning. all-in-all a great marketing piece for an emerging star PF

 

I wasn't particularly impressed with the whole dunk over the car. It was off the hood for one (which is a height that any of the contestants could have achieved), and the car was right under the basket. When I heard he was jumping over a car - I thought they would place it farther away, or at least, he would jump over the highest point... If anything, Nate's dunk over 6'11/7' footer Howard in 2009 was more spectacular (throw in the fact the guy is 5'9 with shoes on - he's some sort of freak of nature). I'm surprised no one mentioned 2009 - that was a decent year.

A lot of the dunks without the props were actually more impressive than the glitzy stuff - Demar's second dunk, Blake's with the 360 spin, and Javale's (where he had to really swing his head to avoid the board) to list a few.

 
Kanon:
I wasn't particularly impressed with the whole dunk over the car. It was off the hood for one (which is a height that any of the contestants could have achieved), and the car was right under the basket. When I heard he was jumping over a car - I thought they would place it farther away, or at least, he would jump over the highest point... If anything, Nate's dunk over 6'11/7' footer Howard in 2009 was more spectacular (throw in the fact the guy is 5'9 with shoes on - he's some sort of freak of nature). I'm surprised no one mentioned 2009 - that was a decent year.

Nate is actually about 5'7.5. I saw him at the southstreet seaport, hes not 5'9. He is would barely get to 5'8.

A lot of the dunks without the props were actually more impressive than the glitzy stuff - Demar's second dunk, Blake's with the 360 spin, and Javale's (where he had to really swing his head to avoid the board) to list a few.

Nate is actually about 5'7.5. I saw him at the southstreet seaport, hes not 5'9. He is would barely get to 5'8.

 
LebronFinanceGuy:
Kanon:
I wasn't particularly impressed with the whole dunk over the car. It was off the hood for one (which is a height that any of the contestants could have achieved), and the car was right under the basket. When I heard he was jumping over a car - I thought they would place it farther away, or at least, he would jump over the highest point... If anything, Nate's dunk over 6'11/7' footer Howard in 2009 was more spectacular (throw in the fact the guy is 5'9 with shoes on - he's some sort of freak of nature). I'm surprised no one mentioned 2009 - that was a decent year.

Nate is actually about 5'7.5. I saw him at the southstreet seaport, hes not 5'9. He is would barely get to 5'8.

A lot of the dunks without the props were actually more impressive than the glitzy stuff - Demar's second dunk, Blake's with the 360 spin, and Javale's (where he had to really swing his head to avoid the board) to list a few.

Nate is actually about 5'7.5. I saw him at the southstreet seaport, hes not 5'9. He is would barely get to 5'8.

Haha alright 5'7 to 5'8 - just makes it more impressive.

 

Griffin's car dunk was weak but he put on a Clinic. Doing the Vince Carter "elbow in the hoop" thing is pretty ridic. for such a big guy. He did a hell of a job for a kid who's younger than alot of the people on this site (and that's saying alot).

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drexelalum11:
It definitely was rigger in favour of Griffin. I hate fan voting, and I hate it more when they say "start voting now" before the final dunks have even been done.

I noted that too, that was a joke.

 

I thought the show was great until Blake's last dunk. The group I was with at the bar thought Blake's last car dunk was weak. Because "anyone can jump over a car" as the discusion became more lively my buddy convinced us he could jump over the hood of a parked car to prove the weakness of Blake's dunk. For a little context we were in the french quarter and the first parade of mardi gras was just ending so the streets were crowded. My buddy walked out of the bar picked the closest car and preceded to jump...well he made it about 75% of the way over and landed with a thud. We then did the only thing grown men do when faced with problems/ embarrassment...we ran haha.

long story short Blake made his last dunk look too easy that man is scary athletic.

lesson for younger kids when in unfamiliar bars never start a tab use cash...

 

^my only objection to that is that any decent NBA player can jump over the hood of the car. Most people in here claiming that they would be able to do it with ease are probably lying because it's not THAT easy either, but I would bet most of the non-centers/point guards in the NBA can do that. I bet even a semi-decent college athlete could do that in this day and age.

To the guy saying this was the best dunk contest in history...LOL. Just LOL. VC's legendary performance, the MJ vs Wilkins back and forth were both better just off the top of my head. These stupid gimmicks are ruining the dunk contest. Just do your damn dunk and stop wasting time. Props used to add to creativity/difficulty are fine (i.e. the candle that the one dude blew out a while back, Dwight bringing out a 12 foot hoop, etc.), but I vote that anything stupid like the choir last night or the whole "I'm superman so I need to bring out a phone booth and change" was just dumb.

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^^^You are going to tell me there has been a dunk contest in history that had this many quality dunks in it? Most dunk contests have two memorable dunks if that. This had at least two quality dunks per participant. Just because people don't like the glitz and glamour involved does not automatically disqualify the dunks that were excellent in this contest. Get a grip people...this was an absolute clinic.

And Blake's VC dunk was better than VC's VC dunk (his other great dunk was better than any other dunk from that VC year also, I remember it clearly.) Serge's MJ dunk was better than MJ's MJ dunk. I have watched a lot of dunk contests over the years, most are terribly boring and uncreative (from a dunk standpoint, not a showmanship standpoint.) This one was by far the best, I steadfastly stand by that statement.

 
rebelcross:
And Blake's VC dunk was better than VC's VC dunk (his other great dunk was better than any other dunk from that VC year also, I remember it clearly.) Serge's MJ dunk was better than MJ's MJ dunk. I have watched a lot of dunk contests over the years, most are terribly boring and uncreative (from a dunk standpoint, not a showmanship standpoint.) This one was by far the best, I steadfastly stand by that statement.

While I agree that Blakes arm in rim dunk was better, it doesn't mean it was better in overall terms (if that makes since). Before Vince, NOBODY had ever seen that dunk. Since then I've seen it a million times so while it was more difficult...it didn't have the WTF was that factor like VC's (where the crowd didn't even cheer b/c they didn't know what was going on). And if youre talking about MJ's free throw line dunk compared to Serge's.....come on man. How are you more impressed by a 7'0" guy with monkey long arms dunking from the free thrown line vs a 6'6" guy. They both are the only ones to jump from the free throw line (although both were touching the line) and MJ did it in way more style.

 

I had the wtf factor on Blake's because it was executed with so much more power and style than Vince's. It added a difficult twist to an already difficult dunk. And you can't say Serge was less impressive than MJ because he's bigger. That's a contradiction, while height and size is helpful for vertical, it is a detriment to a distance leap like that. For him to get 250 pounds of body through the air that far (further than Jordan)...amazing.

You are wrong about them being the only two. Dr. J was the first one to do (and did it the cleanest and with the most style out of anybody.) Then MJ did it and then a white guy did it (I believe it was Brent Barry) and then Serge did it. The other three (including Jordan) were beyond the line when they jumped, Serge was fully before the line. Again, very impressive. Set a new standard.

 

They showed Dr. J's dunk...a foot in front of line. Serge and MJ's toe was on the line. Only person I've seen go actually BEHIND the line is James White, and he's a freak of nature. He did between the legs from the free throw line (albiet he was one foot in front).

 
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Jordan's dunk:

Note: foot on line at 23 seconds

Serge's dunk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjQLccZlFns Note: toe behind line at 24 seconds

I mean it's ok to like Jordan's dunk or whoever's dunk better, that's a matter of preference. We can agree to disagree. I found Serge to be very impressive, and I very much stand by the fact that I believe that the quality of dunks and participants this year was far higher than any I've ever seen going way back. I also stand by my saying I would take the top dunks (plural) from this year over any dunk from the past 15 years (especially Derozan's second dunk the behind the bank one handed something or other, and Javale's ridiculous third dunk.) If you disagree and you like VC's better, that's fine, VC's dunk was also an amazing dunk. Once you get to that point it's a matter of preference. But just the fact that there were so many dunks at that level this year, the fact that we can have a conversation about the last place finisher Serge Ibaka's dunk rivaling one of the great dunks in contest history by Jordan, I think just shows how great the dunks were in this contest. It was a very deep talent pool this year. When I think back over the past 10-15 years I can count the number of dunks that really impressed me on one hand. This year, there were a good 6-7 dunks that made me think to myself "that's very impressive." The top dunks are all personal preference, but I think what I just explained says a lot about this year's contest.

 

^ agreed as well as many collegiate long jumpers. This years sucked. Fuck props (except in trading). Need a player and ball on a 10' rim. That simple.
Still think Vince Carters 2000 performance was the shit...set the groundwork for years to come

 

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