Undergrad junior looking for advice
I'm current a junior at a target school with a mediocre GPA for MBBD standards (3.70-3.80 in a technical major) and a so-so resume (nothing really special at this point). I've been having a hard time landing interviews (rejected so far at one, looking like I'll be rejected at a 2 of the three others at least). I understand that it's difficult to get the internship positions for MBB and Deloitte for example, but I want to best position myself for full-time recruiting.
I'm not necessarily concerned about the networking aspect, as much I am regarding my summer internship options. People on this website talk a lot about the F500 rotational programs, but none of those companies recruit at my school, and I'm not sure how effective my conversion rate will be as those companies use Jobvite etc. (resume blackholes).
I guess my broad question is what types of firms should I target if MBB or Deloitte S&O is my ultimate goal? I would appreciate any experiences from all, but especially those who didn't land positions in the summer, but did in the full-time cycle. Thanks in advance.
I've accepted an offer with S&O, but cannot comment on MBB (refrain from ever saying MBBD). I did a leadership development internship at an F50, however the other people who received FT offers with Deloitte from my school did internships with no name companies, YMMV but at the end of the day impact trumps a brand name.
Shoot me a PM if you want to know more about my background, my process with Deloitte, or your chances next year.
If you really want to make yourself more marketable (particularly from a target school) you NEED to make yourself unique. What's your X-factor? Why should they hire you over someone with potentially better grades and more recognizable brand names? The reality is they're not going to, unless you do something really special that piques their interest. Here's some things I have seen at my MBB: -Starting your own business -High-impact nonprofit work -Working with governments in developing countries in some type of consulting role
The idea is that you need something really different. Your typical F50 internship isn't going to cut it. Is it easy? Not at all. That's why nobody does it. But with enough effort and by looking in the right places (outside of your schools career dev office) you can find something really unique that YOU did
Interesting.
So it might be better to portray myself as a specialist in a specific field or industry, rather than doing something with a bigger name brand but rather generic?
I wouldn't quite call it specializing- I guess what I'm trying to say is just do something that makes you interesting. Very rarely will you meet someone in MBB who hasn't done something "big". Adopt the same mentality towards your career. The idea is that throughout the recruiting process, you want to be the one that sticks out. You want to be "That kid who consulted for the government of that third-world country" or "that kid who had that really interesting/crazy/different experience" rather than "That kid who had some internships". Make sense?
Lol, dear god, MBBD is not a thing. It just isn't and it never will be.
3.7-3.8 at a target school in a technical major is not a particularly mediocre GPA, I don't know who told you that. Sounds great to me.
You should target firms which you think will provide you a good work environment and great experience. Corporate rotational internships are good, banking is good, other fields of finance are good, other consulting firms are good (why do you have to end up at MBB or the big D to be satisfied?), corporate finance/ops is good - so on and so forth. Prestige of the name of the firm/company you will be working for is a key factor in choosing/searching for an internship, quality of people you work with is a key factor, your ability to excel in your role is a key factor, your responsibility/impact in a given role is a key factor, the relevance of the skills/work you do is a key factor, and how you manage to spin all that if you end up going through full time recruiting is a key factor in where you'll land. You can do just about anything given consideration to the above factors, how you spin it is what makes it work.
As for corporate rotational programs, recruiting is generally pretty early (i.e. usually earlier than now), but get on it. Reach out to alum, people related to you in a reasonable way on linkedin, ask you career services center. You may think they may not recruit directly at your school, or you may just be missing them/not networking properly.
Don't just apply online (unless by online you mean OCR) or through jobvite(??), that's a black hole. Find someone to go to bat for you (alumni will usually do this due to the sole fact that you attend their undergrad).
Few things for clarity. Mediocre as in at or below the average of accepted candidates in terms of GPA but I get the point. I'm using those four firms as an example of where I want to be, because they are the best four.
The issue I've been facing is that I haven't been getting much traction via OCR and this is why I started to apply online. Regardless, I'll consider those factors you pointed out when looking for a job and will begin to reach out more to alumni.
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