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you will make NYU, NorthWest, Umich, but Uchicago may or may not take you, depending on that writing grade.
Yes to U of M. Leaning toward yes for the rest.
In my opinion, you could aim even higher than you have. You could be shooting for Ivy League as well, provided you did well on those AP tests. You have a strong profile for your listed schools.
Oh, and being African American matters, a lot.
Pretty strong man , keep up the hard work. I would shoot for even better schools, go for hyps, helps being african american.
1) Go to College Confidential (as Danimals510 suggests)
2) Apply to more colleges (Ivies etc. - you're in that zone where if you apply to many, at least one might stick aka crapshoot zone)
3) Good luck. See you on this board in 2-3 years freaking out about IB/consulting internships. :)
URM with 2200+ SAT? You're in.
I have no idea about the current state of college selectivity, but the one thing I noticed is that you put your athletic accomplishments too low on the list. Top academic credentials, which you seem to have, plus state level track and field should get you most places. Highlight the intellectual jock angle, and you should be gold. The other stuff is gravy. Best of luck, and keep up the good work.
wow thanks for all the support guys hahaha :) this is out of the scope of WSO but where can i work on my writing skills for college essays?
I'd suggest working with an English teacher at your school. Reach out to one, and ask them if they'd be willing to advise you on college essays. I was ignorant of this at your age (many years ago), but most people are willing to help out if you only ask.
honestly, you should be aiming higher. You should apply all over the Ivies. the stats + athlete + URM + ECs will get you in most places.
You will get into Northwestern, NYU, University of Michigan and potentially University of Chicago depending on how they look at your writing SAT. You will get in easily to all those schools. And don't believe people that race doesn't matter in college admittance. I worked for admissions before and they really look at race.
For the record, UChicago doesn't look at your writing score. Only Math + Critical Reading. Though honestly, SAT and other standardized tests are barely looked at. GPA/transcript are by far the most important.
Apply to Wharton and Harvard (along with other top targets) as well - you have a good shot. Don't limit your own choices by not applying. I recommend asking the guys at College Confidential about this for more accurate feedback.
You have a really good shot at any non-ivy. Ivy is possible but a reach (almost always a reach).
Ivies are a different beast altogether though. As annoying/cynical as it might be for me to say this... being african american will help your chances.
Just about everyone who goes to an ivy has your background regarding test scores and clubs. I would see all of these as "making the initial cut" as opposed to why they should accept you. What sets you apart is excelling at a certain activity. To give an example, I was part of a highly competitive music group in New England (I would say at least 20% of the people I was playing with went on to Curtis/Julliard/Major music program), captain of the math team which won our school size bracket within the state (MA), and part of the chess team which won our regional division. I also interviewed a few kids for my school this year and all I can say is that the person with the most interesting extracurricular got an acceptance letter but probably not the most "school smart/study hard" one.
Also: I would say at least 50% of the people who graduated in my year for this music program made it into an ivy or equivalent. It was pretty disgusting actually.
It most certainly will matter, and means you have a completely realistic chance at places like HYPS. The number of black guys with SAT scores like yours and good grades is frighteningly small. DO NOT FEEL BAD about using this to your advantage.
I'm being completely serious here. Aim high.
@floppity - were you by any chance at All Eastern?
@7xEBITDA: No. I think my only chance to do it was freshman year (made all-state that year). From what I remember they do it once every two years or three years (so long ago)? I didn't do school band in junior/senior year for more AP/Honors classes and couldn't audition as a result. Always got one of the first two chairs in district though (doesn't mean top two since I think they divvy up the top 4 or so between top 2 chairs and orchestra).
FWIW I vaguely remember this girl who was like 2x better than me being seated very high there. Yea... she was an absolute beast. Out of the people I knew the only one I considered around her level went to Julliard. She went to an ivy.
You should definitely apply to Ivies + Stanford, Duke, and Chicago.
Best of luck!
I was given detentions my freshman year because my phone went off in class during a test, so on my discipline record, it says "student did not observe exam procedures". Will that count as academic dishonesty / ethics code?
Do you have any reason to believe that this will be sent by your high school to your prospective colleges?
it hasnt been marked as one, but I'm worried about that
Dude, you are black and have an amazing GPA and SAT. Schools love people like you. They can admit a minority and raise their GPA and SAT averages, essentially killing three birds with one stone. Best of luck to you!
like HYPS!??
Yes. Seriously.
EDIT: Do you have any sort of guidance counselors at your school? What sort of high school are you attending?
ACTUAL EDIT: Edit fail.
Can't see my parents arguing with me over that, I guess I'll give it a try this fall ^_^
i go to public school, so there's only two counselors on duty all five days of the week
So I read your post and was like eh you got a pretty good chance at getting in those schools with your stats + accomplishments.... then I saw ur Black.
DUDE you are shorting yourself, you have a shot at pretty much anywhere. For the colleges that have boxes that say "Additional Info," just write, "Did I mention I'm Black?" You are golden, ezzzz.
Dude, you are probably in the top 100 black SAT scorers in the country. Even if the rest of your application was just mediocre you would still have a shot. But the rest of your application is also top-notch. You are a shoo-in at Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, MIT, and every other school in America assuming that Affirmative Action is not overruled in the coming weeks See the article posted below in the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education.
In a given year (2005 in this study), 1200 black students in America score a 700 on one section of the SAT (on the old test of math + verbal, which is today reading + writing, which you averaged a 725 on). You did that essentially on both sections of the old test by a significant margin.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html
To put it bluntly, you might as well just tell people you go to Harvard now.
well i have a C+ on my art class that i took at a community college transcript, next to As for the spanish classes.... will that be my undoing?
No, if worse comes to worse, don't submit your cc classes. I wasn't strong enough in my advice above, you should be able to write your own ticket. Apply to any schools that interest you, plus a couple of backups, and you are golden. Also, at any of your top schools, you should reach out to the track coach. You might not get a scholly, but they may help you get in.
but I need the cc transcript for my language credit & art credit & im not running track this senior year, would that also be a problem if i try to reach out?
So let me get this straight, a high schooler has a ER tag... What are the reqs to get a tag? This is a good example as to why you take 99% of things said here with a grain of salt.
This has to be a serious bit of trolling.
what? i wanna do equity research.... im not an analyst. all my other questions are me asking questions about being an analyst because that's what im curious about going into. no trolling, i just have questions. am i not supposed to put a tag on my profile until i get the job? if so, i can remove it.
Don't worry about the previous post, there will always be people who discount the validity of posts on WSO forums, simply because you have no proof. However, most of the people who have replied to your topic have done so with good judgment and have encouraged you to elevate your current goals and apply to schools in the upper echelons of post-secondary studies. Your race makes you unique among applicants with same academic achievements/ extra-curricular activities/ SAT range and that advantage alone may get you into HYPS. 3 years ago I was in a similar position as you (I'm also black) and got into a top school in Canada(I'm Canadian) and I have never looked back. Take a serious look at all of the Ivies specifically the smaller schools like Dartmouth, Brown, Yale and Princeton.. attending a smaller school can be very advantageous academically and socially in undergrad. If money is a problem make sure you apply for as many scholarships as possible !
Why not just run track this year?
It would only be a problem if you get into a school with some help from the athletic department and then you decide not to run later. They would only help you if they thought you would be joining the team once you were a freshman, as a walk on or otherwise. In my experience it's not all that difficult to walk-on to college track teams, if you have any level of talent. Sometimes a positive call from a coach (at the school that you are targeting) can differentiate a candidate in the eyes of the admin people. They'd only do that if they thought you were serious though, if you aren't I'm guessing the coaches are smart enough to see through that.
thanks again to all of you :D my main concern at this point is still the CC transcript :/
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/
C'mon son...
I put one up on College Confidential, but you guys have been wayyy more informative / responsive :)
You going to reply to all of my posts with fratstar comments?
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