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by _gnasher_ User's RSS Feed (Chimp, 7 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 1:49pm

So I have an SA offer in IBD and, now that the prospect of working the notoriously long IBD hours have become far more real, I wasn't sure about this -

If you pull an all-nighter, say you finish your work at 8am, are you then allowed to go home and sleep until 9am the next day? Or is it a case of you just not leaving the office and heading back at 11pm that night (hopefully)?

Wasn't sure if it was a matter of 'You've done your work and looking ridiculously tired, go home', or 'Man up, this is IBD, sleep is for pussies'.

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hungry's picture

the latter

by hungry User's RSS Feed (Senior Baboon, 249 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 1:51pm

the latter

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anonymousman's picture

Haha sadly it is the latter -

by anonymousman User's RSS Feed Certified User (Gorilla, 524 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 2:06pm

Haha sadly it is the latter - though its not as commonplace to work until 8am as people perpetuate.

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jostor's picture

imho sleeping 1hr is worse

by jostor User's RSS Feed (Chimp, 15 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 2:36pm

imho sleeping 1hr is worse than taking a shower and going back to work

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anonymousman's picture

that's so true. you'll be

by anonymousman User's RSS Feed Certified User (Gorilla, 524 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 2:42pm

that's so true. you'll be taking 10 minute powernaps on the toilet on the hour from about 4pm onwards though

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froufrou's picture

Seriously if I get into IB my

by froufrou User's RSS Feed (Senior Monkey, 79 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 3:12pm

Seriously if I get into IB my insomnia and light sleeping will finally be useful for SOMETHING! (other than pissing me off)

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Marcus_Halberstram's picture

You wont typically work till

by Marcus_Halberstram User's RSS Feed Certified User (Neanderthal, 2072 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 3:31pm

You wont typically work till 8. The latest you'll generally work is till about 4-5AM. Reason being... if you're working towards a deadline... come 8AM that shit better already be at the printers. You'll generally work till 4, 5 maybe 6... and you'll go home, sleep for 2-3 hours, shower and be back at work by 10-ish.... depending on what time the meeting.

If you do work till 8... you WILL NOT get the next day off... wtf would be the use then? You'll prob go home sleep for an couple of hours, shower up and be back at work before noon.

FYI... the wost part about these things is the paranoia the experience all of the next day until the meeting is over.... because ever time a page turns all you're thinking is "OMFG, did I check that!? That doesn't look right, could that be right?! Please dont notice, please dont notice!" Three days later you look at the same exact thing and nothing looks out of the ordinary, everything looks perfect.

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jostor wrote: imho sleeping

by cphbravo96 User's RSS Feed (Gorilla, 735 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 4:53pm
jostor wrote:

imho sleeping 1hr is worse than taking a shower and going back to work

You missed that the OP said "the next day" so its not 1 hour, it would be 25, lol.

However, I do agree that 1 hour is way worse than just taking a shower...anytime I have been awake for an extended period of time and decided to take a quick hour nap...I ended up wanting to shoot myself because you realize how tired you are.

Regards

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westfald's picture

This can also depend on your

by westfald User's RSS Feed Certified User (Gorilla, 680 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 5:09pm

This can also depend on your group/team. Your boss (unlikely) may be a bleeding heart lib and send you home out of pitty, or doesn't want some zombie intern with a wrinkled shirt making the bank look bad in a meeting.

Piece of advice, don't try to milk it or gloat; even subtly an all nighter. Everyone's done it, your not being picked on, it's just the nature of the beast. No likes the self righteous work-a-holic. They'll know what hours you've put in. If you put out quality work and make it through the rest of the day like a champ; it'll score a lot brownie points in landing a FT. Good luck man.

"Cowards die a thousand deaths, but the brave only one,"
Bill Shakespeare

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cphbravo96 wrote: jostor

by anonymousman User's RSS Feed Certified User (Gorilla, 524 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 5:55pm
cphbravo96 wrote:
jostor wrote:

imho sleeping 1hr is worse than taking a shower and going back to work

You missed that the OP said "the next day" so its not 1 hour, it would be 25, lol.

However, I do agree that 1 hour is way worse than just taking a shower...anytime I have been awake for an extended period of time and decided to take a quick hour nap...I ended up wanting to shoot myself because you realize how tired you are.

Regards

hahahaha brilliant

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flyingmonkey's picture

Marcus nailed it.

by flyingmonkey User's RSS Feed (Baboon, 173 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 7:18pm

Marcus nailed it.

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mango123's picture

totally dumb question, but is

by mango123 User's RSS Feed (Baboon, 133 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 7:36pm

totally dumb question, but is there any way to make sure you can make it through the next day after pulling an all-nighter (as a summer analyst)? I know this sounds ridiculous but I've never had to pull an all-nighter in college so I'm not really sure how I'll handle it.

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As a summer analyst, it's

by Juwanna Mann User's RSS Feed Certified User (Senior Orangutan, 430 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 7:43pm

As a summer analyst, it's doubtful you'll be given enough responsibility on a project to warrant pulling an all nighter, but if you are then it's likely you'll be sent home early the next day to rest. It's in the bank's interest to provide a good experience to summers. Although now that I think about it that depends.

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AspiringBanker21's picture

You've never had to pull an

by AspiringBanker21 User's RSS Feed (Monkey, 59 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 8:10pm

You've never had to pull an all nighter in college? what year are you in? Last semester I probably had around 10. Mostly because I went out when I couldve stayed in and got stuff done early but I actually find it relieving at the point where you decided to stay up all night instead of doing work late then being like shit I'll only have 5 hrs of sleep, 4hrs, 3hrs...

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giants92's picture

It's definitely a function of

by giants92 User's RSS Feed (Orangutan, 267 Banana Points Points) on 3/16/10 at 9:13pm

It's definitely a function of how much you go out/procrastinate during college. I've come really close during finals- like passing out with only a few hours until test time and then waking up right beforehand, but I've never stayed up straight through the night for anything (I'm general good about getting just enough done in time). It definitely sucks waking up on only 3 hours of sleep, but I get just too damn tired at that point and decide I'll just do my best come test time. I'm sure a test is a lot less pressure than a client presentation deadline or something like that though- if I'm lucky enough to get a FT offer in the fall and work as an analyst then I'm definitely not going to take the attitude "I guess I'll just do my best". More like "shit, this needs to be perfect- staying up and focusing for these next 3 hours."

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Im not sure I ever went thru

by M-001 User's RSS Feed (Senior Baboon, 208 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 1:03am

Im not sure I ever went thru the night without sleeping at least an hour... Most of the time I end up getting about 2-3 hours when staying up doing hw or studying.

I actually had to do this on Saturday night/Sunday morning. Ended up being out until about 530am (unfortunately, not partying) then coming home with the girlfriend. Took her home at 7, got back at 720. After sleeping a full hour and 10 minutes, I was up at 830 for work.

Weekends are when this happens most, as I would go out then finish off the night of partying at a friends loft. Seems everytime we all went back to his place, I didnt get home until 6-7am.. Then I need to be up at 830 for work.. Sucks balls, thats for sure...

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Well I guess for me once I

by AspiringBanker21 User's RSS Feed (Monkey, 59 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 1:23am

Well I guess for me once I did it a few times I became much more comfortable with the idea and know that after the test/class I can pass out for as long as I want to relatively speaking. This obviously changes in banking but really once you get to a certain point that next day I feel like your body resets and sometimes you don't even feel tired until the next night. All you need to know is that its definitely not as terrible as it sounds at all.

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westfald's picture

I just hate the lack of sleep

by westfald User's RSS Feed Certified User (Gorilla, 680 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 1:37am

I just hate the lack of sleep headache. The one that feels like lava's replaced your brain matter.

"Cowards die a thousand deaths, but the brave only one,"
Bill Shakespeare

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rebelcross's picture

I hate the lack of sleep

by rebelcross User's RSS Feed (Gorilla, 526 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 2:49am

I hate the lack of sleep headache + full body soreness. Especially the legs, don't know why the legs feel so sore after not sleeping, it's a horrible horrible feeling.

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Marcus_Halberstram's picture

Jesus, you guys are pansies.

by Marcus_Halberstram User's RSS Feed Certified User (Neanderthal, 2072 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 7:12am

Jesus, you guys are pansies.

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flyingmonkey's picture

Sure beats the pit in your

by flyingmonkey User's RSS Feed (Baboon, 173 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 11:52am

Sure beats the pit in your stomach and pocket than if you get a pink slip.

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Commuter's picture

I work full time and go to

by Commuter User's RSS Feed Certified User (Monkey, 48 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 12:12pm

I work full time and go to school full time, I think that was main reason I got my offer. The days where I am doing both, its up at 430a work at 530 then not home till 1130p-12a. Then up at 4:30a again. Your body adapts and I usually wake up before my alarm now.

You get used to it, the eyes on the prize situation. The shitty part is waking up and it's still dark, that's depressing or when I walk by all the bars and see the happy kids who have been out of work for many hours. Lack of sleep isn't bad as long as you are doing stuff.

I used to work overnights in a warehouse, its hard to sleep during the day so sometimes I would just be up through the next day, at work I was constantly doing tasks so it wasn't a big deal.

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hungry's picture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

by hungry User's RSS Feed (Senior Baboon, 249 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 4:06pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall

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OptimusSubprime's picture

Adderall is a terrible

by OptimusSubprime User's RSS Feed (Senior Chimp, 21 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 4:52pm

Adderall is a terrible long-term strategy for replacing sleep. Huge crash once it wears off. It's fantastic if you're desperate and are able to go to sleep immediately afterwards, but that's often not the case.

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hungry's picture

false

by hungry User's RSS Feed (Senior Baboon, 249 Banana Points Points) on 3/17/10 at 4:54pm

false

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anonymousman's picture

I heard about this neat ass

by anonymousman User's RSS Feed Certified User (Gorilla, 524 Banana Points Points) on 3/18/10 at 9:21am

I heard about this neat ass thing to wake you up - its called cocaine, nicknamed, charlie. That shit puts a spring in your step!

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I can't beleive thermogenics

by Uncle_C User's RSS Feed (Chimp, 10 Banana Points Points) on 3/18/10 at 10:54am

I can't beleive thermogenics and other endorphin releasing energy drinks (endo-rush) haven't made it mainstream in the IB world.
Cocaine is a petty narcotic compared to these things. Check out bodybuilding.com for thermogenics that will up your metabolism for a 6-8 hour stretch.

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