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So my internship (pwm) was just terminated and I guess I'm looking for a little advice. Basically what happened was this: I got arrested over the weekend for public intoxication. Spent the night in jail and saw the judge the next morning. He said If i went 30 days without getting in trouble and I did one 8 hour workday it would be dismissed and wouldnt go on my record. Even though the case wasnt closed and a verdict hadnt been given, I was apparently required by the bank i work for to immediately disclose any arrests. Never even crossed my mind. So the next day they called me into the office and said that compliance was forcing them to end my internship because I hadnt disclosed the arrest and they had found out. They have told me that the records are just going to indicate that the internship ended, rather than was terminated, which is obviously good.

Anyways, been feeling really shitty about this and cant get it off my mind. I called my boss and apologized for letting him down/thanked him for the opportunity. He was really understanding and said he would still be happy to write me a reccomendation letter if i ever needed one. Im also going to call and apologize to the person that referred me and helped me get the internship.

Anything else I should do, anything I should know, or any advice on how to handle this unfortunate fact in the future?

Also, I know I'm retarted for getting arrested... although you can all feel free to further point that out.

Comments (37)

  • pikachu's picture

    You my friend are one lucky bastard.

    Who gets arrested and then has their boss willing to write them a recommendation? wtf?

  • prospie's picture

    This isn't bad at ALL, just start hustling as soon as possible in order to figure out where you could start next summer. I would even ask your former boss if he has any ideas for companies you could start looking at for next summer.

  • R5A7B's picture

    Classy move giving the calls to apologize.

  • In reply to pikachu
    prospie's picture

    pikachu wrote:
    You my friend are one lucky bastard.

    Who gets arrested and then has their boss willing to write them a recommendation? wtf?


    not only does he get the recommendation, he gets to spend the rest of the summer drinking at his parents' house and napping off your hangover at the pool like you're supposed to at that age.

  • alexpasch's picture

    Lol this isn't that big a deal. I would give you a employee of the month rather than have you fired, but then again, I'm not like most finance people lol.

    Consultant to a Fortune 50 Company

  • D M's picture

    haha, nice alex. And dude you're in a solid position, I wouldn't worry about it too much. The only thing retarded about what you did was spelling retarded with a "t" (retarted, really?)

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  • erickbauman's picture

    Hey D M, Give him a break. His nursing his hangover and prison experience with desserts from the pastry shop. Instead of getting crunk, he gets retarted on Magnolia Bakery.

    Cyoung33 nice move on the calls. I would suggest laying low for a week, then asking your boss to coffee to solicit some connections. Other than that, you got off better than most would. Also, ask them if they were considering to extend an offer post-internship and if so, then maybe you can talk your boss into doing so with a "cold offer". One that you can shop around with his recommendation.

    Good luck.

  • In reply to pikachu
    UFOinsider's picture

    pikachu wrote:
    You my friend are one lucky bastard.

    Who gets arrested and then has their boss willing to write them a recommendation? wtf?


    Yes
    R5A7B wrote:
    Classy move giving the calls to apologize.

    and yes

    It seems every few months someone loses their job / freaks out about background checks because of stupid shit they did while drinking. Note to self: don't get stupid drunk and do stupid shit.

    Live and learn man, you are in pretty good shape and can probably start networking for the next thing sooner than you'd originally planned.

    Good luck!

    Get busy living

  • kraken's picture

    Now that's class, public intoxication, not having it on his record, getting fired in your internship (do you still get paid?), getting the internship in his resume, getting a recommendation, having vacations ...

    I've been doing it all wrong!!!

  • Hynex's picture

    ^
    haha, true my friend, let's all get involved in public intoxication get the credit for internship while chilling in the beach

  • shera's picture

    How'd they find out you were arrested? I bet you posted that shit on facebook like a total fucking retard

  • In reply to shera
    blastoise's picture

    shera wrote:
    How'd they find out you were arrested? I bet you posted that shit on facebook like a total fucking retard

  • someotherguy's picture

    It seems to me the only thing you really lost here was the chance at a permanent job offer. Your resume will still say "internship at WhateverIB, summer '11" and I don't think you really have to disclose more than that until necessary- though you will probably get the "why didn't you get an offer" question in future interviews, and that's a good time to come clean. In my opinion, "I got too drunk one night, was arrested, and did not tell compliance" is a much better answer than just being the weakest link, though try to emphasize that it was something you regret very much and play it off as a youthful indiscretion type thing.

    I had no idea one was supposed to disclose arrests though... definitely wasn't like that back when I was taken in. How did they even find out? Did you tell coworkers and/or supervisors, including non-trusted assholish ones? I can't imagine they scan the police blotters, and if they do, do they scan it for just NYC or all the surrounding areas as well? Did they go over that in orientation? I would check out your employee handbook, and see if it mentions that you are required to disclose an arrest. If its not there, you probably aren't going to get your job back, but at least in future interviews you can explain that it was really BS that you were canned.

  • SlikRick's picture

    Are you kidding me!? I bet your PWM internship was unpaid anyways. Now you can go about enjoying the remainder of your summer. PWM are only a resume pad anyways, and as long as you are still receiving a letter of recommendation, you'll be fine. Go on and enjoy your summer; be thankful that you're lucky.

  • Lubu's picture

    So you lose some internship creds.......but you now have STREET CREDS fo' lyfe

    "I respect your courage for coming this far alone! However, you are still going to die!"

  • TechBanking's picture

    This seems like an excessive overreaction on the part of the bank. It's not like you tried to hide anything or cover anything up. I'm guessing that your former boss feels the same way.

    I was never aware of an immediate notification clause for arrests in anything that I ever signed at a BB, and I was the guy that always read 100% of the employee manual (do the same with owner's manuals btw).

    How does that work? Are you supposed to use your one call from jail to call HR? Do they come and bail you out? Are they 24/7 or do you have to call them right at 8am or whenever they get in? That would be a pretty sweet service, instead of having to call your friends/gf in the middle of the night/early morning...just call HR!

    Either way, no worries - you will be fine. A public intoxication ticket won't hurt you in any way.

  • thejuggernaut's picture

    silver banana for being a regular human being and learning regular human lessons and following up with a rational instinct/reaction.

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  • mfoste1's picture

    public intox?! fuckin dumbass

  • shorttheworld's picture

    boss wasnt a dick because he wouldnt have fired you for such a thing, just that compliance can be very tight with stuff like this and this happens at a LOT of firms. a friend of mine had his offer rescinded for publicly peeing on a tree at a college party, getting a ticket for it and not discolisng it. yett

  • In reply to mfoste1
    wolverine19x89's picture

    mfoste1 wrote:
    public intox?! fuckin dumbass

    That was necessary... OMG PUBLIC INTOX NOESSS!

    I hope you feel better about yourself mfoste

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  • In reply to bortz911
    Nebular's picture

    bortz911 wrote:
    mfoste1 wrote:
    public intox?! fuckin dumbass

    On the contrary. If you don't have at least one of these on your record, you're a fuckin fag in my opinion.

    LOLOL!

  • ST Monkey's picture

    better come up with a good explanation on this early "ended" internship to your future potential employer.

  • trade4size's picture

    Alright so why dont you just tell us what exactly you did... If you can remember that is... We need details asap.

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  • Barboone's picture

    Good luck! that shit will haunt you for life.

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    -Frank Underwood

  • Big Dreams-Little World's picture

    how da hell did they find out? Its not like they get police reports on all employees daily wtf

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  • cyoung33's picture

    Thanks for all the responses... has definately helped put this in perspective. In reality I should be fortunate that shit worked out okay rather than pissed/depressed over it ending.

    As far as how they knew, I have NO idea. I have thought long and hard about this and cant really imagine how thats possible (especially given how quickly they came to me about it). Thought of two possibilities though. For one, I was in the "Just Busted" magazine (although I cant imagine that they scan it every week). Second, someone told me that they ask you where you work when you get booked... dont remember this but its possible I was so drunk that I just told them, thinking it was just for the records or something. I was still hammered for the first 6 or 8 hours I was in jail. I have not posted anything on facebook, told anyone at work, or anywhere else that could have screwed me... so I really dont know.

    For the person who asked how it happened: there really isnt a very good story behind it (had many far crazier nights that didnt end in arrest). Had just got back from spending a week on a family vacation and was ready to go out with friends. Since I got back late we only had like an hour to pregame. DIdnt want to waste too much money at the bars so I pounded 8 or 9 shots (it was free) and snuck in a waterbottle under my crotch with some more liquor. Drank that and a few beers and was planning to chill on the drinks BUT I ran into a friend at the club who was buying rounds of shots. He just kept handing me shots and I didnt want to turn him down... After this I dont remember much but I did run into some girl I sorta knew. I think we decided to split and go to another bar after I fell down some stairs and was pretty much too drunk to dance (it was a club). There were apparently a ton of cops parked right outside and I think one of them approached me pretty soon after I walked out (must have been stumbling or something). I dont remember the details of the night or the arrest but that is pretty much the story as I remember it/have been told.

    Also I may have forgotten to mention... I still get school credit for the internship since it wont be on the record as a termination. And I still have another summer to intern, I wasnt interested in a full time offer (its unpaid PWM so its not wierd to not get a fulltime offer... they have a complete team). So there really is limited downside to the whole situation. Just gotta learn from it and move on.

  • econ's picture

    cyoung33 wrote:
    So my internship (pwm) was just terminated and I guess I'm looking for a little advice. Basically what happened was this: I got arrested over the weekend for public intoxication. Spent the night in jail and saw the judge the next morning. He said If i went 30 days without getting in trouble and I did one 8 hour workday it would be dismissed and wouldnt go on my record. Even though the case wasnt closed and a verdict hadnt been given, I was apparently required by the bank i work for to immediately disclose any arrests. Never even crossed my mind. So the next day they called me into the office and said that compliance was forcing them to end my internship because I hadnt disclosed the arrest and they had found out. They have told me that the records are just going to indicate that the internship ended, rather than was terminated, which is obviously good.

    Anyways, been feeling really shitty about this and cant get it off my mind. I called my boss and apologized for letting him down/thanked him for the opportunity. He was really understanding and said he would still be happy to write me a reccomendation letter if i ever needed one. Im also going to call and apologize to the person that referred me and helped me get the internship.

    Anything else I should do, anything I should know, or any advice on how to handle this unfortunate fact in the future?

    Also, I know I'm retarted for getting arrested... although you can all feel free to further point that out.

    I had a funny change in my thinking a couple months ago...

    I decided I wanted to own my own businesses. As soon as I decided this, I quit giving a fuck about being fired. Seriously, I have a job right now and even though I don't want to get fired, I won't be distraught if I do. I'll just get a random job as a waiter, bartender, or shoesalesmen. At the end of the day, my income and success as a business owner is going to be much less dependent on my credentials. Who gives a fuck about what schools I went to, what my GPA is, how "prestigious" my first job was, what my previous bosses think of me, how quickly I got promoted, or whether or not I got fired. Anyway, it's a liberating feeling, and I recommend it.

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    More is good, all is better

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