London Style Violence Coming to An American Town Near You

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2011-06-09/news/kn…

The cocksucker who murdered this old man should get the fucking chair. My pal from Penn had to buy a gun during his senior year because he had to deal with too many of these feral beasts.

That's all I have to say about this.

 

Read this on CNN today: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-08-09/justice/pennsylvania.curfew_1_flash-…

Philadelphia's mayor described his stiff curfew on teenagers' "flash mob" attacks on city residents as a dose of "tough love" and called for parents to keep better watch on their kids.

"I have an understanding of what of our parents are facing, but others are in very challenging situations, and I appreciate that and understand that, but there is no excuse for young people being out so late at night by themselves and then making bad decisions and literally assaulting other citizens," Mayor Michael Nutter told CNN's "American Morning" on Tuesday. "I will not tolerate that."

There have been several assaults by teens on residents in recent weeks, and the beatings have left people badly injured. The city cites the culprits as members of a "flash mob," which is a group of people who decide to gather at a given place via e-mail and social media.

Nutter, who is African-American, delivered a frank sermon at his church, Mount Carmel Baptist in West Philadelphia, on Sunday about the problem.

"We will be prosecuting these young criminals to the fullest extent of the law," District Attorney Seth Williams said in the mayor's Monday news release about the curfew. "There is no excuse for what they did, and they have brought great shame upon themselves and their families."

The problem has overshadowed attention on achievements among youths across the Philadelphia region, one of America's most populous metro areas.

For example, the Philadelphia Youth Poetry Movement won a competition in San Francisco recently, only to return to Philadelphia with little fanfare and news of the flash mobs on the front page.

"It's very frustrating," said Perry "Vision" Divirgilio, a performance coach and poetry movement mentor. "While that's going on, we have kids who are waking up on Saturday to go to a writing workshop. It's hard to keep telling my kids to keep doing well when the ones causing the problems get the attention."

But the issue has emerged as a major topic of conversation.

A Philadelphia Inquirer columnist, Annette John-Hall, called Nutter's church sermon a "good old-fashioned whipping" of the black community. She likes his tough stance on crime, but at the same time, she was disturbed by his remark at the church about race.

"There, he said it. In a way that his white constituents would hear him loud and clear. At that point, he wasn't talking to black people anymore," she wrote.

Nutter said his words at church were well-received. He said "senseless, stupid, ignorant, violent" actions won't be tolerated.

The mayor lashed out at the attackers, saying "you've damaged yourself, you've damaged another person, you've damaged your peers and, quite honestly, you've damage your own race."

On Monday, Nutter signed an order reducing curfews to 9 p.m. on Fridays and Saturdays for people under the age of 18 in Center City, the heart of Philadelphia's downtown, and University City, a neighborhood to the west where the University of Pennsylvania and Drexel University are located.

In the rest of the city, the curfew will remain at 10 p.m. for people under age 13 and midnight for people under age 18.

First-time curfew breakers will be fined $150. Repeat offenders could be slapped with fines up to $500, the mayor's office said.

In tandem with the curfew, the city will expand recreation center hours throughout the city.

One example of the violence occurred in late July. Philadelphia police arrested three juveniles and a 19-year-old on assault, reckless endangerment and robbery charges after a mob struck the Center City area.

Two people were injured. The youngest of the juveniles to be arrested is 11, according to Officer Christine O'Brien. The others are 16 and 17; none of them are being identified because of their age.

The 19-year-old was identified as Raymond Gatling, according to the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office.

"Teens need to make better decisions. Parents need to step up and take care of their children. We, as a government, cannot raise people's children. You want to have children? You have to take care of them."

Nutter said city authorities are working to be "more anticipatory about things and not just reactive," and are using social media, such as Facebook and Twitter.

But ultimately, Nutter said, the problem stems from home life.

"What are parents doing with their children? Do you know where your child is?"

 

I'll be honest, the Second Amendment is gonna be the biggest barrir to some sort of insurrection/looting/rioting in America. If some loser is coming into my store to rob me I'm grabbin the 12 gauge and protecting my livelihood. I was watching the bBC and they had something on a bar owner who waled into his newly opened business and found a bunch of looters stealing stuff. One had a large knife and the owner ran upstairs, escaped out a window and down a drainpipe. If that happened in America those kids would have been shot Bernie Goetz style as they should have. What bar owner in America doesn't have a gun?

Reality hits you hard, bro...
 
MMBinNC:
I'll be honest, the Second Amendment is gonna be the biggest barrir to some sort of insurrection/looting/rioting in America. If some loser is coming into my store to rob me I'm grabbin the 12 gauge and protecting my livelihood. I was watching the bBC and they had something on a bar owner who waled into his newly opened business and found a bunch of looters stealing stuff. One had a large knife and the owner ran upstairs, escaped out a window and down a drainpipe. If that happened in America those kids would have been shot Bernie Goetz style as they should have. What bar owner in America doesn't have a gun?

I lived through the LA riots. The Koreans are pretty meek people on a day to day basis but when you fuck with their livelihoods, when you fuck with their stores, they bring their hand artillery out and they be blasting.

Bernie Goetz deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Love that, meek Jewish guy going fucking nuts on a bunch of human turds trying to mug him.

I have family in the UK and the savagery there is really angering me. And it is making me even more intolerant of the kind of savagery we have in US cities.

I used to be liberal as hell in college but now I believe in the 2nd Amendment solution to these problems. I was safely insulated from this shit at Princeton but during my best friend's parents' weekend at Penn some lowlife subhuman beast crawled into a hotel window where some little Asian lady was staying to see her daughter, raped her, and gave her HIV. I just hate all this sophistry -- trying to justify the savagery of the subhuman underclass living among us -- these urban hyperpredators -- with bullshit socioeconomic nonsense.

Every one of my nice suburban liberal friends raised by nice liberal parents who went to a school in a place like Philly came out to be total fascist psychopaths. I was shocked and abhorred, but after moving to DC, I'm on board 100%.

 
ivoteforthatguy:
MMBinNC:
I'll be honest, the Second Amendment is gonna be the biggest barrir to some sort of insurrection/looting/rioting in America. If some loser is coming into my store to rob me I'm grabbin the 12 gauge and protecting my livelihood. I was watching the bBC and they had something on a bar owner who waled into his newly opened business and found a bunch of looters stealing stuff. One had a large knife and the owner ran upstairs, escaped out a window and down a drainpipe. If that happened in America those kids would have been shot Bernie Goetz style as they should have. What bar owner in America doesn't have a gun?

I lived through the LA riots. The Koreans are pretty meek people on a day to day basis but when you fuck with their livelihoods, when you fuck with their stores, they bring their hand artillery out and they be blasting.

Bernie Goetz deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Love that, meek Jewish guy going fucking nuts on a bunch of human turds trying to mug him.

I have family in the UK and the savagery there is really angering me. And it is making me even more intolerant of the kind of savagery we have in US cities.

I used to be liberal as hell in college but now I believe in the 2nd Amendment solution to these problems. I was safely insulated from this shit at Princeton but during my best friend's parents' weekend at Penn some lowlife subhuman beast crawled into a hotel window where some little Asian lady was staying to see her daughter, raped her, and gave her HIV. I just hate all this sophistry -- trying to justify the savagery of the subhuman underclass living among us -- these urban hyperpredators -- with bullshit socioeconomic nonsense.

Every one of my nice suburban liberal friends raised by nice liberal parents who went to a school in a place like Philly came out to be total fascist psychopaths. I was shocked and abhorred, but after moving to DC, I'm on board 100%.

A conservative is a former liberal who got mugged by blacks and finally came to the realization that PC liberalism is total bullshit.

I knew two kids in college who started as liberals but left as hardcore conservative realists after getting mugged by blacks in west philly, near the penn campus.

 
ivoteforthatguy:
MMBinNC:
I'll be honest, the Second Amendment is gonna be the biggest barrir to some sort of insurrection/looting/rioting in America. If some loser is coming into my store to rob me I'm grabbin the 12 gauge and protecting my livelihood. I was watching the bBC and they had something on a bar owner who waled into his newly opened business and found a bunch of looters stealing stuff. One had a large knife and the owner ran upstairs, escaped out a window and down a drainpipe. If that happened in America those kids would have been shot Bernie Goetz style as they should have. What bar owner in America doesn't have a gun?

I lived through the LA riots. The Koreans are pretty meek people on a day to day basis but when you fuck with their livelihoods, when you fuck with their stores, they bring their hand artillery out and they be blasting.

Bernie Goetz deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Love that, meek Jewish guy going fucking nuts on a bunch of human turds trying to mug him.

I have family in the UK and the savagery there is really angering me. And it is making me even more intolerant of the kind of savagery we have in US cities.

I used to be liberal as hell in college but now I believe in the 2nd Amendment solution to these problems. I was safely insulated from this shit at Princeton but during my best friend's parents' weekend at Penn some lowlife subhuman beast crawled into a hotel window where some little Asian lady was staying to see her daughter, raped her, and gave her HIV. I just hate all this sophistry -- trying to justify the savagery of the subhuman underclass living among us -- these urban hyperpredators -- with bullshit socioeconomic nonsense.

Every one of my nice suburban liberal friends raised by nice liberal parents who went to a school in a place like Philly came out to be total fascist psychopaths. I was shocked and abhorred, but after moving to DC, I'm on board 100%.

Living in London close to public housing made me pretty conservative on welfare issues for sure.

 
MMBinNC:
What bar owner in America doesn't have a gun?
Exactly. Come try and rob me or any other bar / business in my hometown. If, and that's a BIG IF, someone somehow manages to get out the door alive, there's a lot of people with no futures who will hunt them down.

I'm fully in favor of killing a few of them to set an example. There's two types of respect: the type that is A. Voluntary and B. the type that is brutally enforced. These kids want to pick option B, ok, it's going to get ugly.

Seriously, this isn't 1900 where people were starving to death. This is modern America, the land of limitless opportunity for anyone willing to make the effort. Ironically, I actually do vote liberal a lot of times, but I have absolutely ZERO patience for this shit.

Get busy living
 
UFOinsider:
MMBinNC:
What bar owner in America doesn't have a gun?
Exactly. Come try and rob me or any other bar / business in my hometown. If, and that's a BIG IF, someone somehow manages to get out the door alive, there's a lot of people with no futures who will hunt them down.

I'm fully in favor of killing a few of them to set an example. There's two types of respect: the type that is A. Voluntary and B. the type that is brutally enforced. These kids want to pick option B, ok, it's going to get ugly.

Seriously, this isn't 1900 where people were starving to death. This is modern America, the land of limitless opportunity for anyone willing to make the effort. Ironically, I actually do vote liberal a lot of times, but I have absolutely ZERO patience for this shit.

I am a fairly moderate guy but I take a hard line approach to welfare reform. It is a necessary hallmark for a developed social democracy, but if you are living off the taxpayer the rules change. You are getting kicked the fuck out of your gov subsidized housing if you commit a violent or drug related crime, no questions asked. The government in the UK is way way too soft with this crap, and it has spread outside of urban centers and into middle class neighborhoods where relatively well off youth mimic this anti-social behavior and indiscriminately make everyone elses lives hell because:

1) they are bored 2) people are afraid of them 3) they can get away with it because the UK government seems to think its just kids being kids

News flash fucktards, the US has a problem with indiscriminate intimidation and violence but only in poor urban areas, the fact that the UK has let this culture grip the entire country is pathetic.

 

I think it's a tragedy that you can't protect yourself in England. No handguns, no blades, no mace for the law-abiding citizen.. too bad criminals don't play by the same rules

At least you can blast a fool in the US

 
A conservative is a former liberal who got mugged...

I thought a conservative was a liberal who moved above the 25% tax bracket. :D

In all seriousness, we need to remember that our rights as human beings are contingent on people who disagreeing with us believing that we have rights. And I think that in the long run, we need to realize that for capitalism to stay sustainable, people need to see the tangible benefits of it- community centers, hospitals, parks, schools, etc. That's not to support government mandated income redistribution, just to support the wealthy finding a way to give back to the community. Ultimately that is what keeps capitalism sustainable and that's what keeps us social creatures.

 
IlliniProgrammer:
A conservative is a former liberal who got mugged...

I thought a conservative was a liberal who moved above the 25% tax bracket. :D

^ HAH! nice. +1 when I have bananas again
Get busy living
 
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