Obama Introduces 23 Executive Orders on Gun Control
With the new gun control executive orders, we have a slew of new privacy issues to deal with disguised as additional checks on gun owners. I don't want to sound like Alex Jones here, but signing an executive order to violate HIPA privacy for the sake of gun ownership background checks doesn't feel right to me. The 23 executive orders are below:
1. "Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system."
2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system."
3. "Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system."
4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."
5. "Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun."
6. "Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. "Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign."
8. "Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)."
9. "Issue a presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations."
10. "Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement."
11. "Nominate an ATF director."
12. "Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations."
13. "Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime."
14. "Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."
15. "Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies."
16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."
17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities."
18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."
19. "Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education."
20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover."
21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges."
22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations."
23. "Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."
Link to the full article here: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/16/obama-to-anno...
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It seems like he did what he
It seems like he did what he could, touching as many bases as possible, and left the big stuff for Congress where it belongs.
TNA will probably be in soon and ruin any chances of a civil discussion though, but you've been here longer than me so you already know that
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OkComputer: It seems like he
It seems like he did what he could, touching as many bases as possible, and left the big stuff for Congress where it belongs.
TNA will probably be in soon and ruin any chances of a civil discussion though, but you've been here longer than me so you already know that
Wow, cry a little more.
Obama did what the government should have been doing all along. Wow, share information, follow up on crimes, pursue conviction. Shocking. Where was Obama on pushing the government to actually, I don't know, do its job in the first place.
So let me understand something. We needed an executive order to actually have shit get done, something that should have normally happened for years now, but we are talking about additional laws and restrictions? Makes perfect sense.
Guns are safe, statistics show this. End the drug war if you want to reduce gun violence. Plain fact is inner city black kids dying doesn't get air time like a isolated school shooting. Kids are at greater risk of dying on the way to school than in school, but irrational fear is what guides people.
Sorry if I don't go lock step with your desire to further restrict a fundamental freedom of Americans. Doesn't mean it is less civil. In fact, your preemptive and unnecessary personal attack on me and my stance is the core of incivility.
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In 2011, the FBI concluded
In 2011, the FBI concluded there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. I say we ban hammers!!! It's the gateway weapon to guns!!!
40,000 people die each year from car accidents.
400,000 people die each year from smoking. 600,000 from second-hand smoke.
What the fuck is wrong with you Democrats? If you're going to ban something, don't make it Big Gulps and Guns.
"A man generally has two reasons for doing anything. One that sounds good, and the real one." - J.P. Morgan
Gun control is just like
Gun control is just like school spending. There is never an absolute point where people say enough.
If Obama passes every gun control measure he wants, the sheep will bleat out with joy, until the next shooting which we all know will happen.
Then the drones will cry out for more rules to keep them safe and the dance will continue. Gun control is about gun confiscation. Any compromise is one step closer to the the destruction of one of this countries most important rights.
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Thank you for posting this
Thank you for posting this summary.
Really really lame Executive order, and the Legislative proposals are typical and without imagination.
I guess the NRA propposal to have an armed guard in school wasn't so crazy after all, since one of Obama's 4 proposals was to provide money for "resource officers."
Our irrationality and fear
Our irrationality and fear based society is what led us to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. It got us Homeland Security and is leading to the further erosion of our rights.
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BTbanker: In 2011, the FBI
In 2011, the FBI concluded there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. I say we ban hammers!!! It's the gateway weapon to guns!!!
40,000 people die each year from car accidents.
400,000 people die each year from smoking. 600,000 from second-hand smoke.
What the fuck is wrong with you Democrats? If you're going to ban something, don't make it Big Gulps and Guns.
Red herrings everywhere!!!!!
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OkComputer: It seems like he
It seems like he did what he could, touching as many bases as possible, and left the big stuff for Congress where it belongs.
TNA will probably be in soon and ruin any chances of a civil discussion though, but you've been here longer than me so you already know that
agreed on this. TNA just cant handle a civil discussion about politics
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It seems like he did what he could, touching as many bases as possible, and left the big stuff for Congress where it belongs.
TNA will probably be in soon and ruin any chances of a civil discussion though, but you've been here longer than me so you already know that
agreed on this. TNA just cant handle a civil discussion about politics
You guys want to get a room or something. I've been debating politics on this site far longer than both of you combined.
But please continue making catty comments.
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TheKing: BTbanker: In 2011,
In 2011, the FBI concluded there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. I say we ban hammers!!! It's the gateway weapon to guns!!!
40,000 people die each year from car accidents.
400,000 people die each year from smoking. 600,000 from second-hand smoke.
What the fuck is wrong with you Democrats? If you're going to ban something, don't make it Big Gulps and Guns.
Red herrings everywhere!!!!!
Agree. But a sincere question for the crowd that's in favor of more and more gun control just to actually see what the belief is... does you guys think that gun control laws making it harder to buy assault rifles will actually stop people from getting assault rifles? And that if guns aren't as readily available people won't kill the people they want to kill? Just want to get a picture of the level or lack of cynicism on the other side of the coin. I tend to think a lot of these arguments boil down to one's faith in the human race.
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TNA: CaliforniaAnalyst: O
It seems like he did what he could, touching as many bases as possible, and left the big stuff for Congress where it belongs.
TNA will probably be in soon and ruin any chances of a civil discussion though, but you've been here longer than me so you already know that
agreed on this. TNA just cant handle a civil discussion about politics
You guys want to get a room or something. I've been debating politics on this site far longer than both of you combined.
But please continue making catty comments.
the longer doesnt mean the better
ive watched enough political debates on this site. almost every time its pretty much TNA vs. TheKing or TNA vs. SirTradesaLot
but yea, who cares. just for fun
And by "handle" I am sure you
And by "handle" I am sure you mean simply agree with additional, ineffective measures that restrict freedom for law abiding citizens.
If this was about saving human lives and reducing gun deaths the answer would be simple and in the vein of freedom and what this country is about. Stop the war on drugs. Legalize marijuana. Increase policing in inner city areas. Stop arresting everyone and simply provide safety so kids can go to school and parents can work.
Spend money to reach out to the black community to increase birth control and reduce single family households. Stuff like that. Because gun violence is predominately concentrated in these areas.
But that doesn't get CNN coverage. No one wants to talk about that. People want to ban scary looking rifles or reduce clip sizes, yet it only takes one or two bullets to kill someone and the majority of violence and deaths are will illegal handguns, which already have strict regulations.
Naaaa, continue to push for rules that wont be enforced, as is apparent by Obama issuing exec. orders to start fully enforcing rules on the books. Continue to act like chicken little when a school gets shot up, but ignore the daily onslaught of deaths in Chicago, Philadelphia, Washington, New Orleans, Detroit, etc. All caused by drugs, poverty and lawlessness, not crazy people with rifles.
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In 2011, the FBI concluded there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. I say we ban hammers!!! It's the gateway weapon to guns!!!
40,000 people die each year from car accidents.
400,000 people die each year from smoking. 600,000 from second-hand smoke.
What the fuck is wrong with you Democrats? If you're going to ban something, don't make it Big Gulps and Guns.
Red herrings everywhere!!!!!
Agree. But a sincere question for the crowd that's in favor of more and more gun control just to actually see what the belief is... does you guys think that gun control laws making it harder to buy assault rifles will actually stop people from getting assault rifles? And that if guns aren't as readily available people won't kill the people they want to kill? Just want to get a picture of the level or lack of cynicism on the other side of the coin. I tend to think a lot of these arguments boil down to one's faith in the human race.
i would say it helps prevent an average person to obtain assault rifles. And the ct shooting incident and the like will be less likely to happen. but if u really want a gun and try hard enough, u can always get one 4sho.
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In 2011, the FBI concluded there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. I say we ban hammers!!! It's the gateway weapon to guns!!!
40,000 people die each year from car accidents.
400,000 people die each year from smoking. 600,000 from second-hand smoke.
What the fuck is wrong with you Democrats? If you're going to ban something, don't make it Big Gulps and Guns.
Red herrings everywhere!!!!!
Agree. But a sincere question for the crowd that's in favor of more and more gun control just to actually see what the belief is... does you guys think that gun control laws making it harder to buy assault rifles will actually stop people from getting assault rifles? And that if guns aren't as readily available people won't kill the people they want to kill? Just want to get a picture of the level or lack of cynicism on the other side of the coin. I tend to think a lot of these arguments boil down to one's faith in the human race.
i would say it helps prevent an average person to obtain assault rifles. And the ct shooting incident and the like will be less likely to happen. but if u really want a gun and try hard enough, u can always get one 4sho.
Prevent a law abiding citizen from obtaining a rifle. The ultimate goal of all this. Assault Rifle = Less powerful hunting rile, painted black with a pistol grip.
And we are giving away freedoms to prevent lightning strikes. Lets ignore the massive gun violence in inner cities, all things which are easier to fix and might actually have an impact.
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CaliforniaAnalyst: i would
i would say it helps prevent an average person to obtain assault rifles. And the ct shooting incident and the like will be less likely to happen. but if u really want a gun and try hard enough, u can always get one 4sho.
But doesn't someone stop becoming the average person when they decide they want to mow down a handful of people? I think at the end of the day even a 21 year old from white collar suburbia is going to effectively kill a classroom of kids if he sets out to do it. Just running through the stuff in my house, I could have probably done just as much damage as the Newtown kid with my putter and a hunting knife.
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It does seem like some of
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I wish we could have read all
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If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.
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People are irrational and
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interesting to see TNA and
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What I think the saddest side
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Sad day for America.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin
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Obama can take my 12-round
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Oh my god that dumb bitch I
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