This site was a million times better before politics got involved.

1) Romney is a two time loser.

2) Romney loved Donald endorsing him before.

3) This is a transparent effort by a few established party insiders to deny the will of the people.

How about we let Cruz and Rubio do their thing? Is Trump cheating? No. People seem to like what he is saying. Just because a couple billionaire secretly running things don't like it doesn't make it right. This is a concerted effort to basically undermine the will of the people. Romney should be quiet and stay out of it.

This will do jack shit to stop Trump.

 
LameAsFook:

This site was a million times better before politics got involved.

1) Romney is a two time loser.

2) Romney loved Donald endorsing him before.

3) This is a transparent effort by a few established party insiders to deny the will of the people.

How about we let Cruz and Rubio do their thing? Is Trump cheating? No. People seem to like what he is saying. Just because a couple billionaire secretly running things don't like it doesn't make it right. This is a concerted effort to basically undermine the will of the people. Romney should be quiet and stay out of it.

This will do jack shit to stop Trump.

Undermine the will of the people? Helloooooooo…..On Super Tuesday, Trump got 36% of the popular vote. I'll spare you the math--that means that 64% of Republican voters voted for someone not named Trump. And Trump has done his best in states that allow non-Republicans to vote. So let's be perfectly clear--Donald Trump (and no one else either) has proven to be the "will of the people," especially among Republicans.

This nomination fight very well could go all the way to the convention. Simple rules--you come to the convention with 1,237 delegates or you don't win the party's nomination. From there, the delegates are released and they can vote for whomever they choose. Those are the rules.

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If Trump reaches the convention with a substantial lead (but not 1,237) and he is not given the nomination it's lights out, RIP GOP. The party will crumble by abandoning their base of voters and it will be wide open in elections thereafter (also guarantees a landslide loss to Hillary).

The GOP establishment is a disgrace and completely out of touch with their constituents. The party has shown an inability to adapt to changing American culture and demographics. Look at all these do nothing pathetic career politicians the GOP establishment has been calling leaders: Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, haha. Total joke

 
Virginia Tech 4ever:
LameAsFook:

This site was a million times better before politics got involved.1) Romney is a two time loser.2) Romney loved Donald endorsing him before.3) This is a transparent effort by a few established party insiders to deny the will of the people.How about we let Cruz and Rubio do their thing? Is Trump cheating? No. People seem to like what he is saying. Just because a couple billionaire secretly running things don't like it doesn't make it right. This is a concerted effort to basically undermine the will of the people. Romney should be quiet and stay out of it.This will do jack shit to stop Trump.

Undermine the will of the people? Helloooooooo.....On Super Tuesday, Trump got 36% of the popular vote. I'll spare you the math--that means that 64% of Republican voters voted for someone not named Trump. And Trump has done his best in states that allow non-Republicans to vote. So let's be perfectly clear--Donald Trump (and no one else either) has proven to be the "will of the people," especially among Republicans.

This nomination fight very well could go all the way to the convention. Simple rules--you come to the convention with 1,237 delegates or you don't win the party's nomination. From there, the delegates are released and they can vote for whomever they choose. Those are the rules.

I expected a reply like this from an autistic clown like yourself.

How about you apply those rules to Rubio and Cruz? Cause I know more than 64% voted got someone "not them".

The entire establishment is trying to stop Trump or Cruz from getting the nomination. Their anointed loser, Jeb, got smoked and Rubio is just a back up. Trump is actually going outside the lame ass dead Republican party talking points and brining up issues that people who haven't seen wage growth care about. Conservatives suck so much ass and it is about time this garbage dies.

If Cruz or Rubio wins and secures the nomination, fine, good work. I'll abstain from voting cause I do not care. If Trump comes in just shy and they fuck him, I'll be a life long Democrat. I disagree with the tax issues but I have no interest in supporting a first term senator or a bible thumping liar. Party of Lincoln And Reagan has been dead for a while.

 

@Virginia Tech 4ever"

When you say you're a "REAL conservative" I'm wondering if you're into religion and anti-gay, anti-abortion and all that? If so, YOUR version of the GOP is completely dead.

None of that social nonsense even matters. This country is never going to vote into office a person who is overly hung up on your old fashioned values. You need to get over that fact and find a way to bend to get some of the important things e.g. reduce size of govt, entitlement programs, have a strong national defense that actually will annihilate ISIS (bomb them back to the stone age which their sort of already in haha).

 
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@Virginia Tech 4ever

When you say you're a "REAL conservative" I'm wondering if you're into religion and anti-gay, anti-abortion and all that? If so, YOUR version of the GOP is completely dead.

None of that social nonsense even matters. This country is never going to vote into office a person who is overly hung up on your old fashioned values. You need to get over that fact and find a way to bend to get some of the important things e.g. reduce size of govt, entitlement programs, have a strong national defense that actually will annihilate ISIS (bomb them back to the stone age which their sort of already in haha).

No, I'm talking about things like free trade and private health insurance (two things Trump opposes) and constitutionally limited government. Trump in no way understands or represents true conservatism. The guy is a big government crony capitalist. He could never represent a conservative party since he's NOT a conservative.

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I liked the site when political posts weren't posted.

Free trade is cool and all, but the majority of Americans aren't seeing wages rise or job growth. Can't really blame them for being pissed at China or Mexico when factories continue to close and go overseas because of cheaper labor and/or less restrictive environmental issues.

And while I hate Obamacare, I find it difficult to justify a large portion of this society not having access to medicine or Healthcare.

Both Obama and Cruz are constitutional lawyers and neither really cares about people's freedom or rights. Understanding the Constitution =/= protecting rights.

Republican party needs to die. The party of anti gays marriage, religious dogma and pro business at the expense of common Americans isn't going to fly in a country where Bernie is getting legitimate support. The fact that the establishment is throwing a fit because Americans are voting for Trump and Cruz tells me all I need to know about this dying party.

 
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Blaming China and Mexico for our economic woes is intellectually bankrupt. The U.S. has the highest combined corporate income tax rate in the industrialized world. The U.S. is considered less business friendly than much of socialist Northern Europe. Our banking regulations have stifled the creation of new banks (1 created since 2008--one!) when these small banks are the prime lenders to small businesses. Obamacare has vastly increased the cost of employment (my company is paying $21,400/year/employee for health insurance, up from $14,000 just a few years ago).

Add it all up and economic growth has slowed to a crawl of 2% per year over the last 15 years and new business formation is among the worst in the last 3 or 4 decades. Our terrible growth cycle has stolen economic opportunity from untold millions. The U.S. blaming China and Mexico is taking the focus off of what we can control here--competitiveness. THAT'S the problem with President Donald Trump--he's scapegoated China and Mexico for America's own failures, completely deflecting the blame of our own self-inflicted wounds.

So long as guys like Trump deflect blame from America to others, the U.S. will remain at less than optimal competitiveness and the ignorant masses that back him will continue to see contracted economic opportunity.

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TNA:

The fact that the establishment is throwing a fit because Americans are voting for Trump and Cruz tells me all I need to know about this dying party.

The party is throwing a fit b/c Trump is unelectable in the general election (they are actually not even really throwing a fit regarding Cruz). I agree with most of what you've said except the free trade thing, the death of manual manufacturing is around the corner (even China is losing manufacturing jobs to cheaper countries) better we go through the pain now (and over an extended period of time) than erect trade barriers to bring back jobs that will die soon enough anyway.

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BobTheBaker:
TNA:

The fact that the establishment is throwing a fit because Americans are voting for Trump and Cruz tells me all I need to know about this dying party.

The party is throwing a fit b/c Trump is unelectable in the general election (they are actually not even really throwing a fit regarding Cruz). I agree with most of what you've said except the free trade thing, the death of manual manufacturing is around the corner (even China is losing manufacturing jobs to cheaper countries) better we go through the pain now (and over an extended period of time) than erect trade barriers to bring back jobs that will die soon enough anyway.

Indeed.

We are in the midst of a scientific renaissance. Technology is advancing at a rate faster than anyone thought possible. Artificial intelligence is doing mind-boggling things that will eventually make most low- and mid- level jobs redundant.

The fact of the matter is, the world needs to rethink how we structure society, lest the masses rise up in violent revolution.

Meanwhile, the Republican Party is still rejecting science and instead, pondering what some unintelligent, desert-dwelling, bronze-age peasant would do (based on writings from some ancient book, which isn't even worth the paper it is written on).

 

This is an incredibly favorable credit market with low rates and banks dying to lend. Agree, Corporate taxes are high, but effective tax rates are low for most business. Obamacare increases costs, but so do all kinds of benefits. Sorry that Americans aren't cool with zero benefits and low wages like China, Vietnam, etc are.

Innovation, automation and globalization benefit those who hold capital. The vast majority of Americans do not. No one is blaming China or Mexico without cause. Companies go there for lower labor and environmental costs. Trumps calling it out just like Democrats do.

Republican party basically sucks now. I love the righteous outrage Republicans have about Trump when they've run a dog whistle, social control, pro big business party into the ground. So sorry if I'm not a real conservative.

 

Lenders aren't dying to lend to small businesses. Lenders are dying to lend on real estate collateral--that's not the same thing as credit for small businesses.

Ultimately, the business climate in the U.S. is much poorer than it should be. You can disagree all you want, but look at our economic growth trends and our business formation trends. China and Mexico's environmental regulations aren't the problem--America's economic climate is the problem. Reform of the tax and regulatory environment is where we need to start--this Trump scapegoating is totally unhelpful. The worst part about it is that it brings false hope to people who don't really understand what's going on.

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Cruz is unelectable. Rubio has zero experience and will be ripped apart by Hillary.

Presidential elections come down to swing states and key voter turn out. Good luck getting people excited about Cruz who is a barnyard pastor or Rubio who will most likely lose his home state.

If people hate Trump blame Republicans for putting all their eggs in a third bush's basket and having Rubio as their only fall back.

 

@TNA" I agree that the race is pretty much over, Hillary is our next president, but you cannot argue that Trump is more electable than Cruz or Rubio. The polls don't show that and his favorability ratings within his own party are below 50% (both Cruz and Rubio are above 50%) and it gets even worse when you look at his general favorability.

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BobTheBaker:

@TNA I agree that the race is pretty much over, Hillary is our next president, but you cannot argue that Trump is more electable than Cruz or Rubio. The polls don't show that and his favorability ratings within his own party are below 50% (both Cruz and Rubio are above 50%) and it gets even worse when you look at his general favorability.

This is how I see things. The race always comes down to Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Indiana. Anyone Republican will win standard southern states. Anyone Democrat will in new York, cali, Illinois, etc. It comes down to winning these key states. I think trumps pro business and pro union message resonates in these blue collar union states.

Free trade Republicans aren't going to win union votes.

Forget Trump right now. Republicans need to run moderate, pro labor, pro women's rights business people. I loved Romney. He had no pulse.

Anyway we will see what happens. Bernie and Trump have changed the paradigm IMO.

 

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