What's your favorite, a phone call rejection or a rejection in the mail? 
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on 11/24/09 at 11:46pm
I have received over 100+ rejections in my career.
I feel like both of them are terrible, but I actually prefer a rejection in the mail.
Sometimes by phone, you feel like you had a great chance of getting an offer so your hope gets up when a number from NYC calls you, while with a letter in the mail, you know it's a rejection.
What are your guys' thoughts?
Phone Call
I prefer to get rejected via a phone call, that way I find out sooner than if I have to wait around for a letter in the mail.
Also, I hate when they wait a long time to tell you that you've been rejected.
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Phone
easier to get feedback
Let it go to voice-mail, if
Let it go to voice-mail, if they ask you to call them back it means you have an offer.
The best is being completely
The best is being completely ignored. I fucking hate HR sometimes.
Best is an e-mail. Worst
Best is an e-mail. Worst would be getting a call, since in my experience it's more likely for a call to be an acceptance, so seeing an unrecognized number would seriously get my hopes up making rejection worse.
Letter is somewhere in between.
I just think getting rejected
I just think getting rejected via standard mail is really inefficient.
Personally, I prefer getting rejected by email, and getting offered positions by phone. In my personal experience, when a company calls you, either
1) They want to offer you a job
or
2) They will reject you, but felt that you were REALLY GREAT.
I've gotten a voicemail from
I've gotten a voicemail from HR telling me to call them back .... only to get rejected.
That really sucks.
I've gotten a voicemail from HR telling me to call them back .... only to get rejected.
That really sucks. I'd hate to experience that.
Hey Piper
Having been rejected over 100x, where are you now in ur career? I admire your persistency and passion for your career. I've had my share of rejections, and believe me they are no fun, but I too prefer knowing sooner rather than later whether it be via phone or email or letter. The sooner I find out the quicker I can move on. Life is short.
It would suck tho to get a voicemail and call back to get rejected.
keep persevering
I realize that after getting so many rejections, something is wrong with you, either your resume or your interviews, so you have to fix that.
I have been left voicemails atleast 5 times where I call them back and to get rejected. It was not a great feeling...
To always have hope is the key to get through these rejections.
yacht is right
The best is being completely ignored. I fucking hate HR sometimes.
Hate that crap, is it so hard to write an email that says "NOT"?
Call Back and Bye
I've gotten a voicemail from HR telling me to call them back .... only to get rejected.
Same for me, I was so pissed...it was BB for summer MBA internship...it was like "call me back I have some news for you", and then"bye bye"...
Phone is better
To me a phone rejection is better because it means you were geniunely considered for the position and the person took the time to look up your contact information. When I think of an e-mail rejection I think "send to all" and " Dear %name. Although impressed with your qualifactions......". Which takes no special effort whatsoever
Phone
At least with the phone call you have a chance to ask what you can do better. Hopefully, get some feedback. A letter is a impersonal way of saying "You suck, also, I will say that as ambiguously as possible and no I don't believe I have the time to tell you in person(as personal as the phone can get). "
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The worst is when you interview for a specific group with only one spot available and you log on to WSO the next day only to find out that it has been given to someone else.
Other than that miserable experience I'd say the ignoring or delayed notification is worse. I've gotten rejection calls but they seemed as if they were genuinely impressed and more often than not seemed open to continuing contact in the future.
haha
I know exactly what you're talking about ... it's especially painful when you thought you rocked the superday and then can tell which joe schmoe got the job over you from the post. Immediatley you wonder to yourself why they decided to bring on two people instead of one and wait by your phone patiently for your salvation. Two weeks pass and you slowly realize that you didnt want to work for that firm anyway (people were lame, terrible exit ops, etc...) until at last you get your heart broken by the "we were impressed" phone call (if you were so impressed why didnt you make an offer). Its not like i'm bitter or anything ...
ive gotten the voice mail to
ive gotten the voice mail to call back and been rejected a bunch of times too. i personally think theres no added value to being rejected over the phone...you can't ask what you could do better bc generally the HR person has no idea. its just an awkward and depressing few minutes
The morning after flying back
The morning after flying back from a final round in London, got a call at 5:30 in the morning to tell me I didn't get it. But I suppose I'd rather that than not hearing anything.
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Voicemail
Yeah, I would prefer getting rejected over the phone. It would at least seem like more thought went into than sending me a boiler plate " you are rejected" letter.
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I think some firms have policies about not giving news by voicemail. They always say call back - i've called back and been rejected and called back and been accepted.
The best sign you're accepted is the speed with which they get back to you. The faster the better.
The best rejection I've got is when someone responded to a thank you for the interview letter with a "good luck in the rest of your job search" before i'd officially been rejected. Ouch.
My confession is that i got
My confession is that i got rejected from piper jaffrays, lol.
I hate it when HR 1.) says
I hate it when HR
1.) says that they'll TRY to get back to you at the end of the day
2.) says that at the LATEST you'll hear something by the beginning of next week
3.) kindly tells you to contact them if they can be of any assistance
4.) AND on top of all those never lets you know of the results. They don't answer their phones and don't reply to voicemails/e-mails. You can assume a rejection, but at least they can make it official, especially after telling you that they would.
It's also funny how you can tell from an e-mail subject line whether you moved on or got rejected. And after you open one, even in a three paragraph e-mail it only takes one second to spot the one line that says it all, without even skimming. It just jumps out at you.
"Congratulations..."
"We regret..."
"...pursue other..."
"...future endeavors."
Hmm I see. Damn it. Delete.
"We all really liked you but
"We all really liked you but someone else edged you out slightly on fit" I've definitely had my fair share off calls with vague feedback. Some are even like "I honestly have no idea why you didn't get an offer. I wish I could give you better feedback."
Never contacting a candidate is BS. One NYC bank has been stringing me along forever, but I got a "your still in the process email recently." I'm about to go ahead and send in an offer and end this rat race (plus I really like it anyways).
Regardless, my only advice is to be a big time class act when they call and reject you. Don't bitch, complain, wine, or do anything that makes you look like a tool. Just tell them you felt that you had great chemistry and would have really liked an opportunity at that firm. Its honestly a guilt trip without letting them know you did it. That keeps you on their radar if you act like a class act if you really want to be there one day.
Opening this up again for
Opening this up again for WSOers' views...
Got an email from HR saying they want to contact me to give an update on the process (after final rounds). Is this an impending ding?
In the past I generally get the call directly on any rejections, or if in email form it's just an email that gets to the point...
rrrrr01 wrote: ...until at
...until at last you get your heart broken by the "we were impressed" phone call (if you were so impressed why didnt you make an offer). Its not like i'm bitter or anything ...
That pretty much sums up why I subscribe to the "I'd rather be the worst guy you've ever hired than the best guy you never hired" mantra.
In all seriousness, I think HR's are getting as unprofessional as imaginable these days - considering we're living in an age where many HR's do not even have the decency nor EQ (well, something they champion so vehemently in potential candidates) to send out rejection notices (by phone, email, snail mail, whatever), is it any wonder why so many candidates with multiple offers find it perfectly reasonable to reject an offer simply by not turning up?
What goes around comes around...
I got rejected via letter
I got rejected via letter only once,
Internship, it came on the nicest paper I have ever seen, engraved logo and everything
I felt like a kid on x-mas day, unwrapping the letter only to find out its not what I wanted
Sparta - I was about to post
Sparta - I was about to post the same exact thing.
I got rejected from a non-bank, but the letter was top of the line. Really nice paper, real signature, stamped logo, etc. It was very impressive. I didn't even feel bad and still hold the firm in high regard.
Interesting HR/PR relations actually...