Early Bonus Season

Christmas might come early to Wall Street this year . WIth higher taxes in 2011 and beyond a distinct possibility, Wall Street banks are looking to do right by employees and pay out their bonuses before the anticipated IRS onslaught.

So what is the general future of banker bonuses? It's easy to say that this is a one time thing, but with the feds continuing to breathe down Wall Street's back like a lames on necks in tight elevators, is it time to rethink the bonus structure? Self regulation has always been less painful than federal intervention.

Credit Suisse MDs in London (for example) are getting a mid-year payout, to make up for last year's tax hikes. They can't take the cash home until 2012 or 2013, however, and still may have to jump through hoops to get it all.

With the potential of top tax bracket percentage jumping from 35 to 39.6 in the U.S., we're talking about an extra $45K in taxes per $1,000,000 in income. Populists will cry that this is a full year salary for some Americans and therein lies the intrinsic problem. The disconnect between finance professionals and the rest of gen pop.

So, what to do (if anything) with the long term compensation structure of investment banks. With regulators around the world pushing for more influence over bonuses and talk of supranational regulatory bodies, this is an issue that can be ignored...but all bubbles burst even the ones in our heads. Plenty of needles abound in today's landscape, all aimed at the same target.

There does seem to be a "business as usual" attitude returning to general market related affairs, as the panic seems to be subsiding. But remember, November is coming and this will again be an issue pounded into the heads of the voters.

With the economy still stagnant, the usual suspects may soon be drummed up again.

How amped up would the next generation of monkeys be if their bonus, was no longer a guarantee? We have seen a good deal of Bulge Brackateers jumping ship for their own shops in recent months and years.

I have asked before and I will ask again....are Boutiques going to poach the Bulge Brackets dry over the next decade? I feel like it's deja vu, in some respects. Ten years ago AOL and Time Warner merged, creating a corporate hydra that head butted itself into perpetual stupor. The same thing can happen in reverse.

Is the slowly changing bonus structure a cause or an effect? Is this just penalty payment for the past? Or prologue for the future?

 
Midas Mulligan Magoo:
IlliniProgrammer:
Good luck trying to regulate the Swiss banks- can't hardly even get tax information out of them.

If the regulation gets too tough, Geneva might just become the new London.

Been saying this for a while now. Except in my version "London" is replaced by "market et. al."

I was convinced that it was going to happen after the populist taxes in London, and yet nothing changed. I just think London is too good geographically and too nice of a city for people to move to more boring places like Zurich or even worse Geneva. I will say that the Brits need to be careful though: a LOT of taxes in Britain are paid by finance professionals, so they don't want to get too carried away with the taxes. But I do think that it will take a lot for the banks (especailly the BBs) to move to Switzerland.

 

Eh who needs regulation when the gov't can just take. After all isn't that what happened with all the names they had to give up, even as the action itself may have been against Swiss and US Law alike?

All bubbles burst. Some more violently than others. Looters all.

 
I was convinced that it was going to happen after the populist taxes in London, and yet nothing changed. I just think London is too good geographically and too nice of a city for people to move to more boring places like Zurich or even worse Geneva. I will say that the Brits need to be careful though: a LOT of taxes in Britain are paid by finance professionals, so they don't want to get too carried away with the taxes. But I do think that it will take a lot for the banks (especailly the BBs) to move to Switzerland.
I too was surprised that little has changed there, but when you think about it the bankers have little reason aside from taxes to move. I totally agree that they have to be careful though, I also doubt that the banks will move but with things like the proposed Robin Hood tax and even further regulation, London might lose it's place as a financial center.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis, you can't trust people Jeremy
 

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