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How To Start Your Own Hedge Fund
 

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Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,354
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 7:30am
Zaky.jpg

A big hat tip to The Reformed Broker for finding this gem.

Imagine becoming a hedge fund manager with no formal training whatsoever. It's the dream of every early finance major at some point. Skip all this BS school and the debt that goes along with it, just publish my own research on Seeking Alpha, and let the money come rolling in, right? Well that's exactly what Andy Zaky did - and it cost his investors every penny they sent him.

To be fair, Zaky first established himself as a sort of AAPL wunderkind. Though he had no formal training in financial management or analysis, he did graduate from UCLA and UCLA Law School. He took to writing about Apple on Seeking Alpha and developed a healthy following because of the accuracy of his predictions. He claimed to have learned all he knows about stocks and finance from the Internet.

Then he started a subscription newsletter which was all AAPL, all the time. At first he charged $49 a month, but when the newsletter grew even more popular he raised the price to $200 a month - and still signed up 700 subscribers. I'll give you a minute to do the math on that.

Meanwhile, AAPL kept burning up the index and making Zaky look like a genius. So he did the only thing a rational newsletter publisher could do: he started an all-AAPL hedge fund.

Fuh...what???

Yup.

With a minimum investment of $250,000, Zaky quickly signed up 28 LPs (at an average of $378,000) and then raised the minimum to $500,000.

You can probably guess how the rest worked out, but it's worth reading the article to see just how badly the wheels fell off. To make a long story short (no pun intended) Zaky bet the ranch on AAPL calls while the stock went into the dumper and he lost every penny. To make matters worse, the Joe Six-Pack's who didn't have the money to join the hedge fund but traded off his advice from the newsletter lost entire retirement accounts. Oops.

It's a pretty fascinating tale, really. Only in the Internet age could a guy like this make this happen as quickly as he did. I'm not saying that there weren't no-name analysts who made it big before the Internet - there certainly were. But the Internet tends to speed the whole process up and, once you're Internet famous, it has to be difficult to resist the temptation to cash in on it. I have no doubt that Zaky's intentions were pure, but this is what happens all too often when you start believing your own press.

So be honest - how many of you are now inspired to start writing for Seeking Alpha in a bid to avoid the whole two-year analyst grind in the hopes of a jump to the buy side? Two percent of $10 million AUM is still $200,000, which is nothing to sneeze at. Not to mention the $140,000 a month you're pulling in monthly newsletter subscription fees.

If Zaky proves anything, you don't even have to know what you're doing...

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Tags:
  • seeking alpha
  • holy shit I lost it all
  • hedge fund
  • andy zaky
  • AAPL

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SirTradesaLot's picture

Edmundo Braverman: Then he

SirTradesaLot
      O
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,504
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 8:10am
Edmundo Braverman:

Then he started a subscription newsletter which was all AAPL, all the time. At first he charged $49 a month, but when the newsletter grew even more popular he raised the price to $200 a month - and still signed up 700 subscribers.

FTW? For real? Damn. There really is a sucker born every minute.

Edmundo Braverman:

I'll give you a minute to do the math on that.

I went and plugged it in a calculator because I didn't trust my mental calculation of $140k per month for writing an AAPL newsletter.

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Kenny Powers's picture

I used to see this dude's

Kenny Powers
      O
 
(Senior Gorilla, 858
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 8:15am

I used to see this dude's stuff on Seeking Alpha and said to myself...surely no one takes the Apple fanboy seriously and stopped reading his stuff. hah

pick em, lick em, stick em

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CivilServant's picture

So SirTradesaLot - when

CivilServant
     
 
(Baboon, 116
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 8:19am

So SirTradesaLot - when should we expect your new newsletter?

What blows me away is that people were handing over this kind of money to someone covering 1 stock. You would think if his client base came from seeking alpha they would have *some* idea about the investing world.

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Going Concern's picture

Edmundo Braverman: To make a

Going Concern
     
 
 
(King Kong, 1,689
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 8:38am
Edmundo Braverman:

To make a long story short (no pun intended)

This is one of the best puns I have heard to date. People that don't appreciate puns should be pun-ished.

And I think it's gonna be a long, long, time

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SirTradesaLot's picture

CivilServant: So

SirTradesaLot
      O
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,504
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 8:37am
CivilServant:

So SirTradesaLot - when should we expect your new newsletter?

Working on it now. Need to do some research on this guy's letters as my first step.

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mikesswimn's picture

Edmundo Braverman: So be

mikesswimn
      O
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 863
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 9:08am
Edmundo Braverman:

So be honest - how many of you are now inspired to start writing for Seeking Alpha in a bid to avoid the whole two-year analyst grind in the hopes of a jump to the buy side?

If I hadn't read the article, and only read this one line, I would've called you crazy for suggesting that such a strategy could work. Wow, just wow. Anyone have any contacts at Seeking Alpha? Apparently, I need to get a writing gig there immediately.

"My caddie's chauffeur informs me that a bank is a place where people put money that isn't properly invested."

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duffmt6's picture

Edmundo Braverman: A big hat

duffmt6
      IB
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,316
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 9:15am
Edmundo Braverman:

A big hat tip to The Reformed Broker for finding this gem.

Imagine becoming a hedge fund manager with no formal training whatsoever. It's the dream of every early finance major at some point. Skip all this BS school and the debt that goes along with it, just publish my own research on Seeking Alpha, and let the money come rolling in, right? Well that's exactly what Andy Zaky did - and it cost his investors every penny they sent him.

To be fair, Zaky first established himself as a sort of AAPL wunderkind. Though he had no formal training in financial management or analysis, he did graduate from UCLA and UCLA Law School. He took to writing about Apple on Seeking Alpha and developed a healthy following because of the accuracy of his predictions. He claimed to have learned all he knows about stocks and finance from the Internet.

Then he started a subscription newsletter which was all AAPL, all the time. At first he charged $49 a month, but when the newsletter grew even more popular he raised the price to $200 a month - and still signed up 700 subscribers. I'll give you a minute to do the math on that.

Meanwhile, AAPL kept burning up the index and making Zaky look like a genius. So he did the only thing a rational newsletter publisher could do: he started an all-AAPL hedge fund.

Fuh...what???

Yup.

With a minimum investment of $250,000, Zaky quickly signed up 28 LPs (at an average of $378,000) and then raised the minimum to $500,000.

You can probably guess how the rest worked out, but it's worth reading the article to see just how badly the wheels fell off. To make a long story short (no pun intended) Zaky bet the ranch on AAPL calls while the stock went into the dumper and he lost every penny. To make matters worse, the Joe Six-Pack's who didn't have the money to join the hedge fund but traded off his advice from the newsletter lost entire retirement accounts. Oops.

It's a pretty fascinating tale, really. Only in the Internet age could a guy like this make this happen as quickly as he did. I'm not saying that there weren't no-name analysts who made it big before the Internet - there certainly were. But the Internet tends to speed the whole process up and, once you're Internet famous, it has to be difficult to resist the temptation to cash in on it. I have no doubt that Zaky's intentions were pure, but this is what happens all too often when you start believing your own press.

So be honest - how many of you are now inspired to start writing for Seeking Alpha in a bid to avoid the whole two-year analyst grind in the hopes of a jump to the buy side? Two percent of $10 million AUM is still $200,000, which is nothing to sneeze at. Not to mention the $140,000 a month you're pulling in monthly newsletter subscription fees.

If Zaky proves anything, you don't even have to know what you're doing...

Even better, let's combine this idea with the fax scam you came up with earlier. Create multiple accounts on seeking alpha, write highly specific, contrarian opinions on a bunch of stocks with each account and wait until you hit one. Look like a genius and start your own newsletter. Milk it for all it's worth until everyone figures out you don't know anything.

"Social cohesion and puritanical morality place roughly on my list of concerns between whether I'll pick up jock itch at the gym this week (not likely, since I don't go the gym) and whether it'll rain in Christchurch, New Zealand next Tuesday."
-Eddie

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CivilServant's picture

Yours for $400 (plus

CivilServant
     
 
(Baboon, 116
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 9:59am

Yours for $400 (plus commission)!

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Ravenous's picture

The stock market, it's where

Ravenous
      HF
 
 
(King Kong, 1,347
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 10:11am

The stock market, it's where popular delusions go to die.

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samoanboy's picture

Going Concern: Edmundo

samoanboy
      PE
 
 
(Gorilla, 505
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 10:53am
Going Concern:
Edmundo Braverman:

To make a long story short (no pun intended)

This is one of the best puns I have heard to date. People that don't appreciate puns should be pun-ished.

Surely excessive punishment would be punitive.

(sight puns are acceptable on the internet)

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rls's picture

Why, oh, why would you pay

rls
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 367
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 11:36am

Why, oh, why would you pay two and twenty for someone to buy AAPL? Haven't these people heard of Scottrade or Interactive Brokers? It baffles the mind. I suppose the marketplace is designed to separate fools from their money in the most peaceable way possible, so I guess this nets out for society's general benefit.

Bene qui latuit, bene vixit- Ovid

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BlackHat's picture

rls: Why, oh, why would you

BlackHat
      HF
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,948
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 11:38am
rls:

Why, oh, why would you pay two and twenty for someone to buy AAPL? Haven't these people heard of Scottrade or Interactive Brokers? It baffles the mind. I suppose the marketplace is designed to separate fools from their money in the most peaceable way possible, so I guess this nets out for society's general benefit.

People pay that for Paulson to buy GLD for them

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rls's picture

Also, Eddie, why isn't this

rls
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 367
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 11:41am

Also, Eddie, why isn't this entitled- "How NOT to Start Your Own Hedge Fund"?

Bene qui latuit, bene vixit- Ovid

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rls's picture

BlackHat: rls: Why, oh, why

rls
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 367
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 11:44am
BlackHat:
rls:

Why, oh, why would you pay two and twenty for someone to buy AAPL? Haven't these people heard of Scottrade or Interactive Brokers? It baffles the mind. I suppose the marketplace is designed to separate fools from their money in the most peaceable way possible, so I guess this nets out for society's general benefit.

People pay that for Paulson to buy GLD for them

Technically, there is also some stock selection in the Advantage Plus Fund. But, to the extent that is true and GLD is a big position (which I've heard it is), they've lost money to this point (and will always underperform GLD net of fees). Just because its a big fund doesn't make it any less stupid.

Bene qui latuit, bene vixit- Ovid

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Edmundo Braverman's picture

rls: Also, Eddie, why isn't

Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,354
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 12:04pm
rls:

Also, Eddie, why isn't this entitled- "How NOT to Start Your Own Hedge Fund"?

Too easy. Besides, he made money even if his clients lost all theirs. Isn't that the definition of a hedge fund?

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BlackHat
      HF
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,948
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 12:13pm
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BlackHat: rls: Why, oh, why

Ravenous
      HF
 
 
(King Kong, 1,347
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 12:26pm
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duffmt6: Even better, let's

freeloader
      PE
 
(Senior Gorilla, 902
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 12:37pm
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Kenny Powers's picture

Edmundo

Kenny Powers
      O
 
(Senior Gorilla, 858
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 2:46pm

pick em, lick em, stick em

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rls's picture

Edmundo

rls
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 367
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 3:52pm

Bene qui latuit, bene vixit- Ovid

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Thank me

OilBaron
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(Baboon, 147
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 6:19pm
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Snow's picture

I know very little about

Snow
      O
 
(Chimp, 5
 
Points)
 on 3/12/13 at 4:18am

Some people just don't make sense.

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Edmundo Braverman's picture

rls: Second, this guy's

Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,354
 
Points)
 on 3/12/13 at 5:52am

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OilBaron: Thank me

mikesswimn
      O
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 863
 
Points)
 on 3/12/13 at 6:49am

"My caddie's chauffeur informs me that a bank is a place where people put money that isn't properly invested."

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duffmt6: Even better, let's

thaimint
     
 
(Monkey, 31
 
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 on 3/15/13 at 3:21pm
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thaimint: duffmt6: Even

BlackHat
      HF
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,948
 
Points)
 on 3/15/13 at 8:18pm

I hate victims who respect their executioners

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Use and Disclosure Limitations

The Company only uses personal information about its Web site users for specific purposes. We do not share user information with third parties except when we have told users about the disclosures, when we have prior consent, or when required by law.

Use Policy: When the Company gathers personal information from users, we ask for permission first. We also disclose, at the time of collection, how the information will be used by us. Personal information is used for activities such as auto-completion of commonly-used forms and helping us contact you when you solicit information from us.

Disclosure Policy: We do not normally disclose personal information to anyone outside of the Company unless we have previously informed users about the disclosures. However, some data may be used from time to time by outside contractors, including auditors or consultants, to assist us in carrying out necessary financial or operational activities. These uses will be consistent with this privacy policy and all contractors using this potential personal information must agree to safeguard it, to use it only for the authorized purpose, and to return it or destroy it upon completion of the activity.

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Although unlikely, it is possible that we may have to make certain disclosures to ensure the security of our Web site, to protect its integrity, or to take precautions against potential liability. In any of these situations, we will take any reasonable steps to limit the scope of the data disclosed.

Web Logs: The Company maintains standard Web logs that record basic information about visitors to our Web site. These logs contain: * The Internet domain from which you came to our Web site. * Your IP address. An IP address is a series of numbers which uniquely identifies your connection to the Internet. Although it is possible in some instances, certain types of IP addresses may be used by interested persons to identify users but we do not attempt to identify users in this way. * The type of browser (e.g., Internet Explorer or Netscape) and operating system (e.g., Windows 98) you use. * The date and time you visited the site, and the pages you saw.

We use Web log information to design our Web site, identify popular features, and in similar ways. We do not try to identify individuals from Web logs or to link Web logs to other user information. However, if someone tries to damage our Web site or use it in an unauthorized or illegal way, we may share Web log information with law enforcement agencies. The Company may provide aggregate information such as the number of users who visit particular pages of the site, or the number of people who link to certain external sites from our site, to other parties.

Changes to Privacy Policy

The Company's features and services will change over time and our information-gathering practices and policies may also change.

While our philosophy of protecting user information from inappropriate uses and disclosures will not change, this policy will be updated occasionally to include any change that materially affects the collection, maintenance, use, or disclosure of personal information.

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