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Sell Your Options Dearly: WASTING ASSETS
 

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Andy note: "Best of Eddie" - while Eddie is on vacation we're throwing up some of his classic posts from the past. This one from June 2010 is part of the very popular "Sell Your Options" 5-part series. More to come later this week & next. If there's an old post from Eddie you'd like to see up again shoot me a message.

"The things you own end up owning you. It's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything." - Tyler Durden

Sorry for the delay in this final post, guys. Yesterday was my oldest kid's end-of-year play, so a large part of my day was spent watching the boy that will carry on my family name dance around and sing Hitler Youth-style indoctrination songs about man-made global warming (don't even get me started).

Anyway, we've made it to the final installment of Sell Your Options Dearly, and this one might be the most important of all. Wasting assets hold the greatest temptation for us. But before I get into that, let's define "wasting asset" so you know what I'm talking about. When I say wasting asset, I'm not referring to the DXD calls I had expire worthless on me yesterday - AGAIN (damned overvalued market).

The wasting assets I'm referring to are better known by their street names: BLING. STUFF. CRAP. Basically, shit you don't need but might enjoy acquiring. The problem with most of it, though, is that the joy of acquisition diminishes rapidly after you acquire it.

That doesn't mean you should forgo toys altogether. Without blowing money on senseless shit every once in a while, you'd have a pretty boring life and it would be hard to get out of bed in the morning. We need the things that motivate us, and those things are often depreciating (or wasting) assets. The key is to not go overboard.

Is a $10,000 Rolex going to keep better time than a digital Timex? I use this example because one of my protegés found this out the hard way. This was a kid who went from making no money to making really pretty good money. So the first decent check he gets, he goes out and blows $7,000 on a watch.

And he loves it.

For about two weeks.

Then he calls me and sheepishly admits what he did. I ran him over a little bit because he should have known better, but you guys know what I did with my first decent check, so I don't give it to him too badly. But then he tells me he's over the watch. It just doesn't do anything for him anymore. He can't wear it to work because he's still a pretty junior guy and it looks ridiculous, and he'd just as soon sell it if he could get his money back.

Wasting assets go hand-in-hand with debt, and the two together can ruin you. So it's important to ask yourself what it is that turns you on about something. Is owning it going to make you happy? Or would just experiencing it satisfy your desire?

It's a lot cheaper to rent a Ferrari than it is to buy one. If you live in the city, when are you going to get to drive it anyway? I know there are a lot of avid car guys out there, and if that's what really revs your engine (no pun intended) then go for it. But if you want a slick car just because everyone else has one, you'll be a lot happier renting. Like these guys:

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The same can be said about just about anything. So I guess this is a pitch for a minimalist lifestyle. Do you really want to own all that shit, or do you just want to experience it?

I've owned 8 sailboats in my life, and I loved all of them. With the exception of one of them, I sold all of them at a profit or break even (based on purchase price – not factoring in monthly expenses). You could say I'm passionate about sailing. But these days, I'm more than happy to charter. (full disclosure: if I do go back to the States at some point, I'll buy another boat because it's a great way to spend time with the kids).

I just want to touch briefly on home ownership and real estate in general. I've also owned 8 residential properties in my life, 3 of which were my principal residence (the rest were investments). Real estate has worked out well for me, generally speaking. But you make your money on it when you buy it, not when you sell it, and a huge percentage of Americans are just now waking up to that fact.

Don't believe the reasons you've been given about why it's a good idea to buy a home as soon as you can. Real estate doesn't always appreciate in value (thank you sub-prime crisis). And the carrying charges can be brutal. Maintenance is always more than you expect, municipalities are scrambling for tax revenues, and the tax break you get for mortgage interest is little more than a working class myth.

When I met my wife, she owned her own house and her mortgage payment was $483 a month. You read that right. You're not going to rent a place for that, so buying makes sense in that case. But in almost every other case, renting is going to be your better option. Unless you can buy for significantly less than you can rent, renting is the way to go. If you do buy, pay the mortgage off as quickly as possible.

Hopefully Patrick will chime in on this post, because he's just gone through a major phase of life simplification in preparation for some long term travel. It would be interesting to hear his thoughts on selling your crap to make yourself more mobile.

Having a bunch of stuff just ties you down. If you're not getting the enjoyment out of it anymore, get rid of it. I'm reminded of something Robert DeNiro's character said in the movie "Heat":

"Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in 30 seconds if you spot the heat around the corner."

While I'm not suggesting such a spartan existense, there is some wisdom there. Don't let yourself get tied down by crap. Enjoy the things you have and give some thought to whether you really want to own the next big thing or just experience it.

Hope you've enjoyed it, guys. Thanks for hanging in there with me, and have a great weekend.

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monkeyman2010's picture

edmundo, this series was

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edmundo, this series was great writing, thanks for taking the time to share your experiences/opinions/advice regarding life issues.

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Edmundo Braverman

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Edmundo Braverman:

Don't believe the reasons you've been given about why it's a good idea to buy a home as soon as you can. Real estate doesn't always appreciate in value (thank you sub-prime crisis). And the carrying charges can be brutal. Maintenance is always more than you expect, municipalities are scrambling for tax revenues, and the tax break you get for mortgage interest is little more than a working class myth.

Do any of you guys just think it's a better idea to rent for life?

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econ wrote: Edmundo

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econ:
Edmundo Braverman:

Don't believe the reasons you've been given about why it's a good idea to buy a home as soon as you can. Real estate doesn't always appreciate in value (thank you sub-prime crisis). And the carrying charges can be brutal. Maintenance is always more than you expect, municipalities are scrambling for tax revenues, and the tax break you get for mortgage interest is little more than a working class myth.

Do any of you guys just think it's a better idea to rent for life?

If you're going to get married, raise a family, and stay in the same location for a long time, then you definitely should purchase a home. But if you're single and flexible on location, then there shouldn't be a rush to buy. Buying restricts your opportunites for movement and can be a pain in the ass financially in the short term. The the OP is just alluding to the fact that there is too much social pressure to purchase a home, although the real estate bust has alleviated that to a certain extent.

You gotta understand the intended audience is guys from 18-28, a lot of whom work in or aspire to work NYC. Droppiing 600K on that townhome in Jersey is not neccasarily a good move when you can rent for $1800 a month.

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MSH's picture

i would argue that if your

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i would argue that if your not planning on getting married and having kids, and you make good money and have no debt (key word is debt not leverage, and by leverage i mean borrowing $$ to make $$). then buying depreciating assets like real estate, cars, watches, clothes, etc is essentially the point of making money in the first place. i completely understand being liquid and not having all your money tied up into personal crap and investments and how its important to have money in the bank. but at the same time whats the point of having money if you cant buy shit?

the way i see it is; if your in your 20s and just getting your career started things may be skittish; you may be moving for better possibilities, you plan on going to business school, etc. so at that point it makes sense to save, invest, and limit spending on depreciating assets that may hold you down and limit your options.

but if your in your late 30s/40s and youve made a sizeable amount of $$ and want to buy crap, whats the downside?

why do we all want to make money? to buy crap, thats the point. does having a 500k patek on my wrist make me immortal, no. but the concept of having a 500k patek on my wrist when thats how much some peoples homes cost, and some peoples whole entire net worth. so i suppose just being able to have allot of nicer, more expensive shiny things than the other person is the point of life, atleast mine

this quote; "the things you own end up owning you" only applies to middle class assholes who are living in over mortgaged suburban homes and competing with the joneses by buy newer base model bmws with car loans

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MSH's picture

this video is on the money

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this video is on the money with spending and buying depreciating assets

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-619200265...

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sanjose04's picture

The series were so great

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The series were so great Eddie. really appreciate your contrbution.

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MSH wrote: this video is on

Edmundo Braverman
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MSH:

this video is on the money with spending and buying depreciating assets

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-619200265...

Here's the 3-minute version of that video:

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MSH wrote: why do we all want

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MSH:

why do we all want to make money? to buy crap, thats the point. does having a 500k patek on my wrist make me immortal, no. but the concept of having a 500k patek on my wrist when thats how much some peoples homes cost, and some peoples whole entire net worth. so i suppose just being able to have allot of nicer, more expensive shiny things than the other person is the point of life, atleast mine

this quote; "the things you own end up owning you" only applies to middle class assholes who are living in over mortgaged suburban homes and competing with the joneses by buy newer base model bmws with car loans

The other danger of spending too much money on pointless crap: becoming an incredible douche.

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streetn's picture

You don't make money to buy

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You don't make money to buy useless shit. You make money because it gives you freedom and safety.

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YellowLime's picture

These were great articles Ed.

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These were great articles Ed. I rarely read the cover pages, but I read all of your articles this time around.

I would love to see more of this stuff. Reading genuine wisdom from real experiences is far more enjoyable/useful than some of the other stuff posted.

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Barboone's picture

Let's also not forget about

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Let's also not forget about wasting money on $10,000.00 tables and $1200.00 dinners in the city just to impress some dumb blonde

"Climbing a mountain that's only getting steeper"
-Barboon

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dosk17's picture

Agree completely. Right after

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Agree completely.

Right after I left banking 2 years ago, I used some of my savings to buy a lot of crap, get awesome furniture for my house, and throw a big party with some friends.

Some of that was fun and I had a pretty ridiculous setup when all was said and done.

One year later, and I was moving out of the country to prepare for long-term travel and was in the midst of selling all the crap I had accumulated.

You could argue that I have an unusual story since most people don't leave banking to start an online business - but plenty of people do move around a lot, transfer offices, move to different cities, etc.

It's a huge pain to get rid of - or even store - everything you've amassed over the years, especially when you barely even use most of it.

I now keep a bare minimum of stuff and intend to keep it that way for as long as possible. I'll move back to the US at some point, but even when that happens I'm going to be as much of a minimalist as possible.

Given that this is a finance message board, all of us want to make a lot of money - and you need to indulge on stuff occasionally just to preserve your sanity.

So take some of your bonus and buy what you want... just don't go overboard and make your life about buying things.

As one of the posters above said, you make money because it gives you freedom and safety. You quickly forget about most things you buy, no matter how great they seem at first.

If you do want to spend money when you get paid, I would strongly recommend spending it on experiences rather than things.

You'll always remember studying abroad, volunteering, getting in adventures, etc. and you can even turn around and spin those to your advantage for interviews, b-school applications, and such - try doing that with the new Ferrari you just bought.

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MSH's picture

edmundo, that video was great

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edmundo, that video was great haha

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MarkyMarkWahlbergWasAwesome's picture

Sorry Edmundo, I think

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Sorry Edmundo, I think Clooney / Ryan Bingham kind of summarized it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA9Q_hEDne8

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RKA's picture

Nice post, Edmundo. i even

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Nice post, Edmundo. i even copy and paste your best words into my FB..... talk about one step closer to become a monk.

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awesome! thanks Ed!! after

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MSH wrote: i would argue that

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The worse mixup of selling

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Anonymous Rep wrote: The

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A great series of rather life

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Great post. Great read and

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- Only time will tell....

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Bottles and DCF Models

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^ Ok, that makes sense. I

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Yeah. It wasn't that they

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"Never have anything in your

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^^^ He was a thief referring

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Ah yea. Makes sense.

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Taken to the extreme, the

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Edmundo Braverman: Andy note:

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