Wisconsin and the Failure of Reason (aka Unions Want High Salaries More Than Jobs)
This is frankly infuriating. Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin and the State Legislature are trying to pass a bill that will strip Unions of collective bargaining rights and shift a fraction of their pension and healthcare cuts onto them. This is an average of a $153 pay cut per month. The Unions are in uproar about this, frankly it is idiotic.
1. The state would have to fire 6,000 workers if this bill is not passed. So the Unions are essentially sending their lackeys out to campaign for marginally higher wages, and to lose jobs. And before you say, "those teachers get no $, ~$1400 is a lot to them" the average teacher in a city in Wisconsin gets paid $100,000 $100,000!!!!!
Average MPS Compensation Tops $100k - MacIver News
2. The school teachers have all "called in sick" and caused state wide shutdowns of the public education system. OK...that's helping out the students. I say fire 6,000 teachers. Do we really need college graduates to teach PE, Art, Remedial Math, etc.? No.
http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-02182011-mps-clos...
3. It's not like the rights will be gone forever, in a few years there will be a referendum to decide whether to restore the government worker's union rights. But they know the taxpayers don't wanna pay teachers $100k to bitch about low pay and shitty students.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline...
4. When Jesse Jackson is organizing shit, you know your're in the wrong.
http://www.wkbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=14058089
5. The Democrats in the legislature in Wisconsin ran away to Illinois to avoid passing the law due to there not being a quorum. This happened in Texas too. Hopefully one senator has a conscience or remained in state so they can be forcefully escorted to the capitol. They should all be arrested. If a normal person skipped out on his job for multiple days he would be fired on solid grounds, if Senators do it, it's the democratic and right thing to do...disgusting.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/116434554.html
6. Obama supports the unions....surprise surprise. They forced donations to his political campaign and they are one of the few areas that actually support what he is doing. When what has been happening to the private sector for the past few years (losing jobs, lower wages, etc.) happens to the public....well we can't stand for that. Our ratio of managers to workers in government is like 1:6 vs. like 1:23 for the private sector.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/DNC_pl...
DON'T GIVE UP SCOTT I SUPPORT YOU!!!!!!






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This pisses me off so much,
This pisses me off so much, my blood's boiling. Unions (particularly public sector unions) are one of the most frustrating economic challenges this country faces, because the solution is so simple but will never get implemented.
Thanks for making another
Thanks for making another thread like this.
The people of Wisconsin, but a majority (52% - 46.5%), elected a Republican, cost cutting Governor and Legislature. Instead of saying your point like an adult and losing like an adult, Democrats have decided to simply flee the state. This is not a dictatorship. This is not military rule. This was what the MAJORITY of people wanted.
Naa, lets just leave the state and hide until a couple thousand protesters go hog wild and schools get crippled from teachers walking out.
Wisconsin has a population of 5.7MM.
1,128,000 voted for the Republican Gov.
The House and Senate seats went to the Republicans. The State legislature went to the Republicans.
But because of 1000+ protesters, people who are not going to lose their job or pay or anything, simply not be able to hamstring the government for pay and benefits and life time employment, something that non of us have, the capital is in a stand still.
I pray to god that this passes. Health care was rammed through. The Republicans did everything they could to stop it, but it passed. You didn't see congressmen going to other countries to avoid voting.
It is Democracy if you are going with the Democrats, but if you vote against their base, it is a Dictatorship.
Wisconsin is the flash point. The enemy has show itself. That enemy is called the public service unions.
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I love how little teachers
I love how little teachers care about the kids. Just close school because we can't collectively bargain. These people don't deserve to be teachers at all. Scumbags, all of them.
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Of course if the sensible
Of course if the sensible people in Wisconsin decided to stop paying taxes for these deadbeat asshats, they'd be sent to jail immediately. Yet politicians can just walk out on their jobs and be applauded as heroes.
Then again what does it matter. Someone should just call the Bernak and tell him to take a 5 minute break from making it rain $1,000,000 bills in the club and print the shortfall...
the worst part is for the
the worst part is for the teachers who don't want to be part of a union. my mom used to teach and started working in a district with a heavy union. she decided not to join and to bargain for herself by actually doing a good job. this lasted for about 2 months while EVERYONE else who worked at the school completely shunned her for not joining their group-o-thugs and trying to earn her paycheck. sickening
http://www.michigancapitolcon
http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/14584
The total compensation of a West Bloomfield teacher grew 173 percent over an 11-year period, going from $47,346 to $129,637, according to information that was presented at a school board meeting in December.
West Bloomfield teachers do not do any premium sharing for health insurance and do not have a deductible in their plan, Andrees said.
I wish I could work 9 months a year, get paid $130k, and have a healthcare plan that pays for everything.
Reality hits you hard, bro...
Read up on graduation rates
Read up on graduation rates for Wisconsin Madison schools. These people are doing a horrible job. I love how Dems simply flee the state instead of stoically losing the vote. How is that listening to the majority of Wisconsin residents. Dems are going to get killed on this issue. Only unions and die hard Dems will vote.
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Using state troopers to hunt
Using state troopers to hunt down runaway Democrats is a huge waste of resources. Get back to your office, do your job, and quit complaining about reforms that are necessary to control your state's budget. Making nice with overpaid and underworked public employees is no way to reform a broken fiscal situation.
It's infuriating to me when people complain about huge state deficits and then don't have any tolerance for cuts in public spending. The pain must happen.
for all the people who are
for all the people who are against this bill...i just want to know where they think the money is going to come from
Guys, can we put these
Guys, can we put these political threads on hiatus? We should be focusing on helping high school kids and college freshmen get into KKR or BX.
Nooooooooo, more political
Nooooooooo, more political threads. As long as it is in off topics it is good to go.
This should be a lesson to all the kids looking for work. Be able to form an opinion and keep up with current events. Bankers like to talk about other stuff than finance.
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Even though the teacher's
Even though the teacher's union situation hits closer to home for most of us, I think that the Albert Pujols scenario currently playing out does a far better job of illustrating the brazen reality of union operations, better known as racketeering.
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ANT wrote: Nooooooooo, more
Nooooooooo, more political threads. As long as it is in off topics it is good to go.
This should be a lesson to all the kids looking for work. Be able to form an opinion and keep up with current events. Bankers like to talk about other stuff than finance.
So true, ANT, so true.
These whining state workers really piss me off too. They should have researched their exit ops more clearly before deciding to teach third grade.
ivoteforthatguy wrote: Guys,
Guys, can we put these political threads on hiatus? We should be focusing on helping high school kids and college freshmen get into KKR or BX.
this made me laugh. kudos.
I think the governor needs to
Work hard, play hard.
Apparently, the next time a
Work hard, play hard.
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I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
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eokpar02 wrote: Dude, the
Work hard, play hard.
The Gov is actually being
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Why doesnt the governer just
Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays
heister wrote: Why doesnt the
Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays
Because the highway patrolmen
1) The Police are excluded
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To you guys, he's very
Work hard, play hard.
ANT wrote: 1) The Police are
Work hard, play hard.
Honestly, lie to get the scum
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i disagree i think unions
What they need is Chris
blastoise wrote: i disagree i
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
Walker could also take a page
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I don't believe for a minute
I found more than a few links
Well the MacIver Institute is
Reality hits you hard, bro...
And its not 100k cash, its
Reality hits you hard, bro...
prinmemo wrote: I don't
prinmemo wrote: I found more
I don't accept sacrifices and I don't make them. ... If ever the pleasure of one has to be bought by the pain of the other, there better be no trade at all. A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud.
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blastoise wrote: hahaha not
I don't accept sacrifices and I don't make them. ... If ever the pleasure of one has to be bought by the pain of the other, there better be no trade at all. A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud.
ah wrote: blastoise
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I still don't believe it.
Yeah, that blog stated $56.5k
I want to see documentation.
Quite frankly, I don't care
lol. I wasn't asking you
For me, I'm just comfortable