Pretty sick. A friend told me about him. He graduated college in 2004 and worked as a research analyst at a BB before joining Paulson. Already partner at age 28 and bought a $3.5 million condo in manhattan.
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swallow and tickle those balls...
you know, i was going to say something clever, too. but you just killed it.
I dont have that much career success but thanks to my old man I have a beautiful $2M apartment. And I tell people I'm a director at the fund I work at even though Im really just an associate. Would you like to suck me off too?
Life is all about learning new things, making friends, being competent at what you do, and if possible, doing what you enjoy. Good for this guy; good for my auto mechanic who's really good at what he does and owns his own shop at the age of 29. Good for my cousin who's a manager at the Sheboygan Wal-Mart and enjoys what he does.
I would put this guy in the same category I have for basketball players and actors. The guys in incredibly talented and LUCKY. You do not achieve this level of success without an incredible amount of hard work and being in the right place at the right time.
No; people are not equal. This guy is nowhere in the same category as a wal-mart employee or auto mechanic.
After family and close friends, money, prestige, and status, are the most important things in life.
Normally it's my opinion that luck is a factor EXCEPT when you're at this level. For someone that's apparently as good as he is, I don't think luck is as much of a factor. It may have been the difference between him hitting MD at 29 and 30 or 31 imho.
luck is the biggest of factors... the guy was obviously lucky enough (just like all of us) to be born in this country where he can do that... i'm sure their are people in Haiti, Tanzania, etc, that are naturally more intelligent than this guy, but he was fortunate enough to be able to live in an environment where his natural intelligence and his hard work and motivation could result in a significant achievement (or at least what we on this board would consider to be a significant achievement... I would think its probably harder for someone from a poor village in the third world to attend college than it is for someone in the developed world to be an MD at a hedge fund at 28)
I guess the "luck" component was him joining Paulson in 2006, which was just when the fund was starting to grow and make its mark. His focus at the BB was on mortgages, so Paulson was a perfect fit for him.
that is pretty sick... I wonder if he has a big penis aswell...
Well, shit, I didn't think you were going that far back. You win, yes he was lucky he was born in the USA, yes he was lucky his parents sent him to school instead of locking him in the basement, yes he was lucky he wasn't hit by a car while crossing the street, yes he was lucky he got into a decent college, yes he was lucky that the MDs at the firm he was going to liked his personality and resume.
What I meant was, if he was born in the USA and had the natural talent he does have, save being from the ghetto I could see him arriving at an MD-level by 28.
Haha gotcha.
28 is nuts. But as another poster mentioned, isn't it lucky that he came from a BB trading mtgs and then moved to Paulson in 06... Obviously he had natural ability to be able to reach that level... but he was also lucky to be in an environment (Paulson during mortgage meltdown) that allowed him to let his skills really shine.
I guess its like evolution: this guy used his innate skills to adapt and thrive in the environment he was in.
good point - I guess you could call the wall street crisis the bottle neck that prompted the evolution.
When JA had his crazy run in 2007/2008 heck even 2009. Alot of the guys who got in at the beginning raked it in. Most of these guys I would say were a bit more lucky, its not like they were way better than others they just took the right chance and got in with the right dude.
Same thing with this guy. Come on with the last 2-3 years Paulson has had, even his Janitor must have got some crazy raise. Nevertheless an analyst that probably helped him strategize his housing short trade.
He put himself in a position to get lucky, by working hard to land a coveted position at a rising fund.
^^ WTF Can someone ban this faggot already? All this guy ever does is tell kids to settle for mediocrity at ever step of life like going to state schools, getting engineering programming degrees, working at shitty 50hour a week jobs that pay $50k a year, and moving to chicago. This forum has no room for pathetic losers like you. Just because you failed at life doesn't mean everyone else has to
I'm sorry your New York attitude gives you so much sour grapes about my success, but at the end of the day, success isn't all that important. Please stop being jealous and focus on making other areas of your life healthy.
To all the above, I just want to add this:
In the ultimate scope of things, an MD at a financial firm is nowhere close to what constitutes "wealthy" and "prestigious".
the last part is a burden of truth fallacy.
on archimedes buddha, yes, their ideas outlasted them, not their relationships. On a side note,the relationships of true geniuses throughout history have been terrible. Once you are at that level of intelligence connecting to other human beings becomes almost impossible, altough thats not the point.
we can agree tough that people that are satisfied and confident in what they have achieved wont have problems with accepting that others outperform them.
On the value system part, you are misunderstanding me. The different value system implies some people prefer different levels of relationship/money, generally I would agree that most people value relationships above money, but the specific levels of both that individuals desire are vastly different. And because something is believed or preferred by most people does not make it correct just on the side.
on a side note I find it slightly arrogant that you attempt to tell people what they point of their life should be. At this stage the brightest minds throughout history have been unable to answer that question, so it is not up to us to decide that or tell others what they should strife for.
Call me arrogant if you will for thinking I have it all figured out. I think it's just as arrogant to claim that ~1.5 billion people are wrong without any more evidence that we're wrong than we have that we're right. shrug
@ IlliniProgrammer,
I agree completely with what you have said.
However, I feel the path to the realization of happiness, and the recognition of what is truly important to people change as they progress with their lives. I think as younger people, we have an illusion that entering and dominating this "rat race" is all that is important in life. At some point, we realize that in the grand scheme of things, finding personal fulfillment is something that is absolutely NOT derived from money or so-called-"prestige".
Leave them to figure it out for themselves man.
there are alot of sad, insecure individuals posting on these forums...
lol, i think normal people would see this as an inspirational story, instead of analyzing this random person's life to death in order to attribute the differential between his success and one's own success to uncontrollable variables.
odd business, this.
god and we wondering whats wrong with bankers and the wannabe's alike. Amazing we give advice to the largest corporations in the world but cant manage our own lives. I'd suggest you all go to SD, get a beach house with your best friends for a weekend and chill out. You guys bash eachother to no end and cant take a contrarian opinion without bashing someone. I guess thats why we have bankers and we have hedge funds. Do what makes you happy. Work a billion hours, go earn a billion dollars, or do all the girls you know, no one cares.
Yeah there are (insecure individuals). I agree wholeheartedly...
It's "though" not "tough"
I quite like this Illini bloke.
Thread = Awesome!
Seriously wasn't this thread about some guy that through hard work, luck, blah blah blah, hit the big time. Honestly, where the hell did Chicago come from? I don't care how much it takes for you to live in Chicago and be happy! A lot of good can be done with money and happiness is a state of mind. Being successful can bring happiness. Whoever this guy is, we would all probably like to know how he pulled it off.
Plus, the planning and strategizing of finance is a huge perk to the work, work satisfaction. You just have to put in sometime at the bottom. We all have to work, except for hippies and artist. If I'm going to work I might as well be paid for it.
Wooo, awesome, another money can make a great life, money makes life blow thread. I have a feeling that this time one of you will be victorious.
We will find out next post on... "28 Year Old Managing Director at Paulson"!
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Funny that the greedy ones in this business are the ones that end up never making it. Stay true to yourself and do what makes you happy, stop sucking off....
You are kidding me right?
There are some sociopaths in this business. And some of them make it a long way before they get caught. Some of them might never get caught. But lying, cheating, and stealing doesn't really get you much further ahead in the long run. Meanwhile, you are always looking over your shoulder and it destroys your ability to have healthy relationships. There are also a lot of honest people in this business, and my view is that if you can make it by being dishonest, you can make it by being honest, too.
From a quick googling...must be Sihan Shu. Dartmouth 04. Lehman until 06. Paulson since. Bought an apt for 3.4mm in December. And we have some friends in common on LinkedIn. The internet is frightening.
yes, stop sucking off... if businessweek is correct, Sihan Shu is a woman. It's "Ms. Sihan Shu". wow, internet is frightening!
http://investing.businessweek.com/businessweek/research/stocks/private/….
http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?vmi=&id=4259370&pvs=pp&authToken…
http://www.natefind.com/sold/230-west-56th-st-manhattan-10019/710326
also found: http://wsrr.info/leadership/awards Institutional Investor ALL-AMERICA FIXED-INCOME RESEARCH TEAM 2005 ABS Strategy #1 Sihan Shu ABS Strategy Lehman Brothers
that is a website by wall street chinese, so i guess this 28-year old managing director at Paulson is a chinese girl.
very frightening... i wonder if this MD knows how much people on WSO have been talking about her for 2 days
For the most part, I agree with Illini. However, I believe that there is a way to be constantly improving spiritually, positively contributing to society and maintaining healthy relationships WHILE being insanely financially successful. Now that's what I'm trying to achieve: the best of both worlds.
agree. being successful is not just making big money at a young age. it's about living a well-rounded life.
i didn't realize it's "she" until i googled the name. looks like a tough career woman. wish she have her well-rounded life.
"Pick two: your career, your marriage, or your kids."
I think you can really have all three moderately, but the fact is that it's hard to get ahead in a career unless you work like crazy, and it's hard to have a healthy relationship with your family if you work like crazy. If you think you can pull it all off and be superman, then I wish you the very best. In ten years, you will have to let me know what your secret was.
He is definitely male via facebook.
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