In the IBD department, how do BB's divy up the office space? I know analysts and associates have cubicles, but what about VP's? And senior associates?
Windows in offices?
Haha this is a stupid question but I am genuinely interested in this.
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Analysts are cubicles and everyone above is office, at least that's what it is where I work.
Analysts/associates have cubes here. Everyone else has offices. I'm at an elite boutique now though...
My BB had everyone but analysts in offices. VP+ had window views, associates did not.
As far as I know, analysts are always in cubes. Associates can be in offices, but I think it depends on the bank and location.
Have a shared office with one other analyst, but it's a WC BB office, not NYC.
It all just depends on the office size and layout with allocation by rank. I've heard of analysts with an office (3rd yrs though and sharing) and seen MDs without. Obviously the larger the building, so usually at HQ etc, the more chance there is some open area for cubicles. At one stage where I was working there were MDs out on the floor, now there's enough room there for nearly all Ds/MDs to have an office. It can even depend on location within a building - I know of one of our locations where one team has associates sharing offices while other teams nearly all sit out in open areas except senior MDs, it's just that the first team is in some squashed wing of the building.
In general sitting in the open is more interesting for talking with people, once you don't get stuck at that aisle seat next to the door where the group head always just happens to pass by when you've decided to read the news for 5mins.
desk vs. cube (Originally Posted: 06/21/2007)
ive heard some firms situate analysts at long desk style work spaces instead of cubes. what are pros/cons of this type of desk scheme? i can see it forcing you to be more productive but at the same time limiting your privacy.
thoughts? thanks!
wow that would be bad.
thats is my initial thought as well...has anyone ever worked in said environment?
you have described a trading desk tyrone. it's an adjustment at first, but having done this for years there's no way i could handle an office/cube now.
Yes, it blows.
jimbo, so if you need to make a call that you dont want everyone to hear, i assume you have to leave the desk. is this looked down on? do ppl stayed fixed @ their desk for fear of getting the impression that you leave too much? how do you master the 5 min power nap?
i work 11 hours a day. i don't generally fall asleep at the desk, even after a long night out. and we're generally at our desks b/c there's a lot going on....i mean unless i go to walk to lunch or the bathroom or to talk to one of the salesmen i'm pretty much at my desk.
if you make a call you dont want others to hear, you make it on your own time. though honestly, you just stop caring after a while. you hear some of the craziest sht around here sometimes.
hahaha thats great. i guess once everyone is comfortable, leaving the room might actually be more akward then simply saying it in front of everyone.
whats the wildest thing you've heard?
Ive been on a desk for about a year, theres no way i could ever work in a cubicle
When there is a desk, that generally means everyone sits on the desk. If your MD sits across from you, you hear everything he is saying over the phone. You know how the deal is really going. I mean do half height cubicles really give you any privacy? Additionally, desks provide an energy that I think remains impossible to find in the cubicle environment. There is a reason the Mayor has arranged his offices as desks.
My office is open concept and it can suck if your screen is visible to everyone behind you. Fortunately, my desk is positioned perfectly and I generally have privacy or enough time to al-tab.
I prefer working at a desks...it makes it easier to work with colleagues. Most of the offices I've seen with a desks layout usually have 4-8 person conference rooms lining the perimeter of the office. So if you need privacy, you just step into a conference room.
this is for investment banking??? I would think that only ECM DCM people would be set up like this...
i have friends who would absolutely hate the desk set up. it is definitely an adjustment at first, but i really like it. the global head of my group sits 6 feet away from me, not locked up in some office.
in terms of what you hear, everything. stories of nights out. people arguing with their spouses, kids, friends. people retelling stories. people blatantly taking headhunter calls. i've overheard lots of wild night out stories. and given that last night was a bit of a rager, the guys near me are hearing about it today.
some banks have pods with 4 analysts sharing each of the corners.
is this an enjoyable middle ground or would people still prefer cubes?
how much room do you guys have at desks? I need all the room i have in my cube and more due to all the files, books, etc that i have
you have enough room. you also get some filing cabinets along the wall (usuallY) and you have a few desk drawers. otherwise you make due with the space you are given. you aren't going to have room for all of your college finance textbooks or whatever other BS you would put on your desk
i have the width of my screens, the phone turret in front of me, a filing cabinet to my left with some stuff piled up on it. if i stretch my arms out that's about the extent of my personal space. it's probably the same size as the desk in your cube but less floor space.
i dont really have books here just a copy of hull and some quant papers. my desk is a bit of a mess actually but that's ok....papers, napkins, notebooks, my 5 years of service thing, contact solution, loose change....
cube or office? (Originally Posted: 07/17/2009)
i hear ER groups are small relative to other divisions so are you in a cubical or office?
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