My MD was Sleeping with an Analyst

The most fucked up thing to be around is when your MD is sleeping with an analyst. She gets special treatment such as never having to work late; never responsible for any ofher mistakes (associates fault); going out to client meetings; traveling on roadshows; going out to client dinners; dressing inappropriately at work (ok I didnt really mind that); and being bitchy to everyone around, just to name a few

 

With both people working all the time, I guess they have a very understanding relationship. It is difficult for someone outside ibanking to understand the NEED to work long hours.

 

When there is a hottie (or almost hottie) on the banking floor, she can easily "awaken" the senses of every male banker she passes. Since none of us see daylight beyond our computer screens and occasional lunch outside the building, it's easy for any decent looking woman to seem like a possible romantic alternative to 90 hour weeks alone at the office.

 

the alternative position for hotties is called PA, personal assistent. A dumb hottie will work as PA, marry a MD A smart hottie will work as a banking analyst, sleep with MD, make VP, burn out A really smart hottie will work as PA, marry a MD, divorce him after 6 months, go live on the islands.

 

Who cares if she is sleeping with the MD? Jealousy will get you no where! Just be thankful you have a hottie working at your firm. Unless you want to work with all guys...

 

...kill me.

I would say a good 80% - 90% of those in IB (male and female) were considered 'below average' in the looks/ personality department in school etc. The rest of us are just freaks of nature, the exception to the rule: looks, smarts AND personality? We're just not playing fair....

 

sounds to me like this situation could be a whole lot worse and will just make you work harder to get ur associates attention. most def. could be worse.

 

In IM (not not IB, I know) we had a chick sleeping with someone 4 grades lower. She finally got sick of him, printed his e-mails to her (idiot) and had him fired with the threat of a lawsuit.

 
Anonymous Monkey:
In IM (not not IB, I know) we had a chick sleeping with someone 4 grades lower. She finally got sick of him, printed his e-mails to her (idiot) and had him fired with the threat of a lawsuit.

ahahahah. Just goes to show - finance chicks are crazy (and the more successful, the crazier)

 

This discussion raised an interesting point of workplace relationships, but I am wondering if those happen alot? What is the ratio of females/males from your experience?

 
spooky:
This discussion raised an interesting point of workplace relationships, but I am wondering if those happen alot? What is the ratio of females/males from your experience?

I don't know if I would describe and MD fucking an analyst as a 'relationship' but from what I have seen or heard if you are gonna fuck around with someone from work make sure it is at least someone in a different group, or better yet someone in a different LOB. But it would probably be best to just avoid it completely.

I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
 

Hope for the best, expect the worst. You aren't necessarily in this line of work to meet women on the job, although if you do, its a fantastic bonus.

 

I work in an IB and see hotties. But the general view is stay away from them. In the long term they are money hungry. Better of getting a non IB chick.

 

Don't shit in your own backyard. Sleeping around at work is always going to end in tears. Hell a lot of girls are out there looking to hook up with guys in IB so it shouldn't be too hard to go outside the company.

That being said, my parents met at work. In fact my old man would probably be done for sexual harassment nowadays for what he said to my (soon to be) mum. Ahh good times.

 
scottius:

Don't shit in your own backyard. Sleeping around at work is always going to end in tears.

Exactly. Don't shit where you eat.

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing. See my Blog & AMA
 

A lot of the ladies in my company look quite attractive. So I wonder are these women hired for their brains or looks.

 

"why do they want to hook up with guys in IB. That would just make them money hungry."

You think there are girls like this out there??? Holy crap!

 

You think there are girls like this out there??? Holy crap!

I know there are thats why I am saying why advertise you work in an IB. If you do that all you will get is gold diggers who think you will be millionaires.

Where as most of them will burn out and only a few good ones will make the cash

 
scottius:
"why do they want to hook up with guys in IB. That would just make them money hungry."

You think there are girls like this out there??? Holy crap!

yes those who want to marry an ibanker, are money hungry, same thing goes for those who want to marry a lawyer/doctor. Sure they play it down saying they want them because they have strong ambition and the drive for success...but who are they kidding.

Personally I'll just go with the "I work with excel." or stick to the old "I don't like talking about my work"...or just say weird ass jobs and see what their reaction is.

 

haha... scotty knows my one, i just say that i'm a teacher... with no cash.

I agree that relationships must have equal understanding, and no one will understand a banker like a banker. If i ever divorce and marry an IB chick, this will be my justification.

 

I don't know about any of you, but I've heard of some firms that have specific recruitment policies in place for targeting attractive female talent... ie it has been formally said (internally at least) that they are looking to increase the M/F ratio, and in so doing will be looking at recruiting "suitable" female talent - most of the interviews will be conducted by the h*rniest guys in the place for example... that's just plain sad.

Anyone else hear similar "policies" being in place?

(As an aside, one of my friends, who just happens to be a "suitable female talent" told me she was basically asked out on a date during her second interview with a particular firm... now that is doubly sad)

 

Here is my 2c. As a female, I think that those of you guys who pretend to be a teacher or in any other way mask your income are making a huge mistake. Income is a part of a male's beauty. Would you date an ugly girl with a great personality or would rather go for a cute chick with not-so-great or no personality at all? For women it's just the same, it's just that women do not look for breasts and legs, but rather for wallets, even if they say the opposite. It's a basic instinct. Nobody wants loosers. You got to understand - they do not wnat your money, they want a man with money - which means successfull, strong, reliable. And, just for the record - I'm married to a not IB/doctor/lawyer :)

 
Alien:
Here is my 2c. As a female, I think that those of you guys who pretend to be a teacher or in any other way mask your income are making a huge mistake. Income is a part of a male's beauty. Would you date an ugly girl with a great personality or would rather go for a cute chick with not-so-great or no personality at all? For women it's just the same, it's just that women do not look for breasts and legs, but rather for wallets, even if they say the opposite. It's a basic instinct. Nobody wants loosers. You got to understand - they do not wnat your money, they want a man with money - which means successfull, strong, reliable. And, just for the record - I'm married to a not IB/doctor/lawyer :)

I donno if anyone else has addressed this, i didnt read the rest of the thread. When we look at 'breasts and legs' thats usually for just hooking up and not the basis of any long term plans. i kind of doubt that women find wallets attractive unless they have some fetish where they enjoy having sex in a mansion or something.

 
aspiringmonkey:
you sound like a gold digger, just my 2 cents
Whatever, dude. I don't care how I sound as long as my marriage works out. But I can tell you something ... I've seen a lot of guys in their 40-s and 50-s who are loaded, have dream apartments and houses and yet lonely and desperate, and the only reason for that is that they see a gold-digger in every single woman who dares to ask about their job. They basically fail to develop any meaningful relationship because of that. If you don't want to become one of those you might want to learn how to take it easy. Good luck anyways :)
 

nothing wrong with spotting gold diggers, I sincerly doubt those guys that have all that money are stupid enough to get into a contract where they can lose half their assets when the woman gets bored(there was a study done, that said that attraction lasts 4 years, long enough for the family to make a child, and for the kid to be protected until he walks)

Personally I see no reason for men to marry at all. Guys have everything to lose, and nothing to gain in marriage. But hey you can blame the women friendly court system.

Example: This guy I know, was married for 12 years. 2 years into his marriage his wife was in an accident and lost her legs. She got stuck on all these drugs and became a violent drug user. He pretty much did EVERYTHING around the house, and raised the kids, and brought all the income into the house.

2 months ago they divorced(her initiative). She got to keep both of the kids because she claimed that he hit her(farthest thing from the truth, nicest guy I know, and in their relationship she was the one always throwing shit at him), and she got to take half his stuff/savings, and the house.

So now he is 35 years old, can only visit his kids once a month(maybe twice I'm not sure), has to rent a shitty apartment since all his money goes to paying the alimoni.

Anyways to end the rant, there is absolutely no reason to get married, there is nothing to be gained by marriage if you are a man.

Sex? With today's promiscious women, and your huge wallet, you'll have no problem getting laid.

A wife to take care of you when you are sick/supplement income? Why can't a GF do the same?

Someone to cook/clean? Most women don't do that anyways.

So you say those guys are lonely and desperate, why because they choose not to commit themselves to a contract that was designed to fuck the man over?

Oh and another thing, prenups don't work. They are constantly getting thrown out of court because the woman can always claim she was forced to sign it under duress(sign this or I don't marry you)


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aspiringmonkey:
Guys have everything to lose, and nothing to gain in marriage.
Hahaha. If you follow this line of reasoning you'll find that women have nothing to gain through marriage as well. Why marry, have kids and be responsible for the family when you can live the "sex and the city" lifestyle and there are tons of those stupid bankers who work 100 hours a week to make money that they spend to entertain you? I'm exaggerating, but you got the idea.. Yet some people have families. You may understand it when you get a little bit older and hence wiser. But if you won't - that's perfectly fine too.
 

Did you ever consider that wealthy men make poor choices in women that they marry?

As a female who will be a banker next year, I am glad I don't need a man to buy me stuff and I can be discerining. But honestly I know so many gold digger chicks. And they tell fellow females way more than they will ever tell guys.

All you banker guys, go and find the prettiest grad student you can find. She'll probably be suspicious at first, but once you break her down, she'll be happy that you can fund her intellectual endeavors and NGO work or whatever she ends up doing, and your kids will be smart instead of Paris Hilton types (her mom was a B-list actress/bimbo).

 

yes they do when they think with their balls instead of their brains. And what makes you think a grad student won't be a gold digger either? Think about it...most people at grad school go on to make a ton of money...my sister is at Cornell and she tells me of a ton of her friends whose plans are to go to grad school to find a husband...not to get a career.

And speaking of career women, you really think the kids will be smart? Please...career women have no time for kids, since work always comes first for them, so that ends up with the kids getting raised by the idiot box.

I mean lets take ibanking for example, you come from work at 2 am, kids are long asleep, who was there to help them with their algebra?


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aspiringmonkey:

And speaking of career women, you really think the kids will be smart? Please...career women have no time for kids, since work always comes first for them, so that ends up with the kids getting raised by the idiot box.

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IQ is largely genetic. If your children aren't retarded, they should be able to handle their algebra homework on their own.
More is good, all is better
 

I didn't say bankers should marry other bankers. I said a wealthy man should marry an intelligent woman. The likelihood that a woman getting a PhD in English Literature would be a gold digger is slim to none. Otherwise she wouldn't waste 5 years of her life reading books in the library and doing resesarch when she could be "working" at an art gallery or a PR firm.

Plus...umm grad school is hard work and hard to get into. Gold diggers don't like hard work, that's why they want to marry rich instead of make money for themselves.

 

grad work differs depending on what major you are. Business yes its hard. But english grad work is just more writing BS.

and intelligent women tend to be the femminazi type, "WHAT! You bought me flowers, you don't think I could buy them myself?"

But hey all women are crazy...and the ones that aren't are just putting on a facade in order to get the guy hooked.


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Hah well with that attitude, good luck!

I'm down with flowers, chocolate, champagne, and the whole nine yards. Not all intelligent/successful women hate men. I quite love men actually :D

 
aspiringmonkey:
grad work differs depending on what major you are. Business yes its hard. But english grad work is just more writing BS.

and intelligent women tend to be the femminazi type, "WHAT! You bought me flowers, you don't think I could buy them myself?"

But hey all women are crazy...and the ones that aren't are just putting on a facade in order to get the guy hooked.


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the flowers thing what fuc*#( funny

 
aspiringmonkey:
Rickets:
wait till you meet a feminazzi. Its like that old saying goes...Chivalry is dead, and women killed it

Say.... Were you married to Loretta Bobbit?

More is good, all is better
 

Must chime in...

fp175 - I know plenty of gold digger chicks too.

If I ever want something I usually just get it for myself. I've never needed a man's money. No one has ever helped me financially in any way and I've never expected nor asked for it either. I've never played a damsel in distress.

However, I've seen plenty of girlfriends play guys and I equally have plenty of male friends gladly oblige. They shower them with gifts, pay their rent etc. (Don't roll your eyes, you guys know how much you like to rescue girls).

I think few men know how to appreciate an intelligent, financially independent woman. They assume that if a woman is intelligent and independent she won't need a man. Couldn't be farther from the truth!

With respect to IB... look at the senior guys... most of their wives are completely dowdy or granola looking. Few IB men even marry their business equal. In fact, it is the conscensus of my B-school girlfriends that most IBers will marry a grade school teacher or nurse etc.

 

well...there is this tiny thing called biological clock, you may look hot in your 20s, and 30s, but by your 40s you start looking like crap. Then nobody will want you. And you'll be reduced to making ads on craigslist offering to provide a glory hole service.

And why would someone with the 'money' waste his time on an old woman like you who'll keel over soon, instead of a tight perky kinky 18 year old?

Women have everything to gain by marriage:it allows them to dig their hooks into the guy both morally and financially.

1-They stop working out/dieting and gain weight. Sure you may still be skinny for 5 years. They stop trying to look good. 2-Sex? Forget about it, first 2 years you may still have your sex drive and suck his dick 24/7, but before long its down to 3 minutes of missionary on the guy's birthday....IF he is lucky. 3-$? The second they marry, they more or less have complete access to half the guy's shit. Doesn't matter if he spent 20 years earning it..and on top of that the man has to provide you with a stipend because apparently you got spoiled while living with him, so now you are used to the lifestyle and the guy has to pay for it. 4-99.99% of the cases the woman always wins in the Divorce, and thanks to the no-fault divorce laws you may have cheated on the guy hundreds of times, you may have had a train of 50 guys ran on you, but you still get half. 5-The woman gains security, she can live with the guy and not work, she can divorce him 3 years later and get 50% of his stuff(thats a nice return on investment), he doesn't need to workout/diet anymore because you can call the guy shallow when you get ugly and he doesn't want to hit it. The guy is the breadwinner in the society, and if woman doesn't want to work, tough luck.

You can still have a family w/o marriage. Last time I checked you can still knock a girl up even if you aren't married.

Yes there are lots of families, but look at the statistics for OUR generation, divorce is high as hell, commitment is no longer provided. And women don't cook, clean, or respect the man as an equal.


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aspiringmonkey:
And why would someone with the 'money' waste his time on an old woman like you who'll keel over soon, instead of a tight perky kinky 18 year old?
Lots of reasons.. From attitude issues to inability to get it up in bed (which rare 18 yo will tolerate) Besides, 40 years for a woman is not the age anymore. You'd be surprised. For the record - I'm well under 30.
Women have everything to gain by marriage:it allows them to dig their hooks into the guy both morally and financially.
Ouch.. where are you getting all this crap from? Don't tell me this is all your personal experience. Your attitude towards women definitely needs adjustment. I think this is a safe guess that you're not rich and hence have never been a victim of a real gold-digger. So why be so concerned?
 

I think that this whole "gold digger" paradigm can be evidenced by one example...Anna Nicole Smith. However, this is one of the only cases where the gold digger lost and the guy's legitimate family won.

 

aspiringmonkey... your comments are naive and hysterical :-)

You've been burned, haven't you? I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.

As for women looking worse the older they get... get clued in. I'd argue vehemently that women take significantly better care of themselves than men.

And you got things all wrong... its men who have no utility. What lots of men (not all!) care most about is their money. When men get older if they're widowed they're useless. They rush to remarry for total ineptitude at being alone.

On the contrary, if a woman widows... party on!! An older women seldom EVER remarries and goes on to live and celebrate life with a vengeance. Ever notice that?!?

Generally, women have more stamina and preserve themselves better than men. Heck, there's so many women delaying having kids because they CAN. There's ways to cheat the supposed biological clock.

Personally, when I get old... (how does that poem go?) When I am old I'm going to wear a purple dress and a red hat which doesn't go and doesn't suit me and I'm going to fetch myself a young hottie, dance like a fool and live like there's no tomorrow :-)

Why wait? Maybe I should start today!

 

I'm not talking about 80 year old bankers dating 18 year olds, this is more along the lines of a 40 year old guy with money being able to pull a 25 year old w/o major problems.

As far as erectile dysfunction...at 40 you really shouldn't have it, and if you do there is always viagra...and for a 1 time hook up with a fresh piece of ass, who cares if she gets satisfied .

20-30 year old is the prime age for gold diggers.

No I'm not rich, but when the first 3 typical questions of 90% women's mouth are: what do you do, where do you live, and what car you drive...you start doubting.

My friends actually did this experiment once, when they told women they made 100K a year they got 10 times more ass than when they told them they made 50K. And 50K isn't exactly poverty line either.

And why I'm concerned with it? Because I find it insanely fucked up that a woman can ruin a guy and all he worked for, just by signing 1 tiny contract.

as far as Aadepsi, No I didn't get burned that bad before, but I know plenty of people who have. And if you don't learn from other's mistakes, you are bound to make your own.

Personally I know more or less 100% that I will never marry, I'm too jaded of the whole process, and I absolutely don't trust American women...will I ever tell that to women? Hell no...there is no reason to cut off a large % of quality poon.

I'll agree with you from the age of 20 to 30, but when you start getting at about 40, and your metabolism slows down, you'll be fucked. I know this woman, who was skinny always, she went to the gym every other day, took care of what she ate, she changed nothing in her diet/excersize, then 5 years later she blew up. I mean seriosly in the photos past and present, it looked like the present version ate the past one.

Ineptitude? Why do you think that is? Maybe it has to do with the fact that during their marriage women CONSTANTLY tell them "You are not good enough", "No you can't go out with your friends"...so when they get out its all new to them not having someone tell them what to constantly do. The first thing in a relationship to go is the man's independance, then when the woman sees that he is pussywhipped, her sex drive goes.

Because at that stage she has all her husband's money, and she continues doing the same shit she always did. If a husband makes more than 100K per year very seldom does the woman work. So when he croaks from her nagging(guys live on average about 10 years less than women), she gets to enjoy his hard earned wealth the same way she always has, only this time she has 3 dicks in her.

I'm not talking about the biological clock for kids, I meant more for looks. But as far as kids are concerned...yeah thats a great idea wait till you are older, so that when the kid goes to nurse on your tit, he gets dry milk. Women delay the whole kid thing, because of that commitment thing. Its hard having a kid when you move onto someone else every 5 months And for every woman that waits to have a kid at 40, there are a 100 young girls getting knocked up at 15.

Yeah good luck getting a young guy when you are old. You'll be old, ugly, wrinkled, and your boobs will sag to the floor, young male models ADORE that.

For every 50 year old woman having sex with a 20 year old, there are a 100, 50 year old guys having sex with 20 year olds. For an older woman to get a younger guy you need to look at the most 30. Its kinda like that movie with the psychiatrist where the 47 year old dates a 23 year old. The 47 year old doesn't look a day over 30.

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Ever.

The girls are going to always be perky.

btw... all the same, I did an experiment once where I told a few guys I met I was a legal assistant paying my way thru school. They were so kind.

I tell guys I have an MBA. Ouch. Immediately think I'm aggressive. Interesting, isn't it?

aspiringmonkey... I bet you will marry the next girl you meet!

 
aadpepsi:
Ever.

The girls are going to always be perky.

btw... all the same, I did an experiment once where I told a few guys I met I was a legal assistant paying my way thru school. They were so kind.

I tell guys I have an MBA. Ouch. Immediately think I'm aggressive. Interesting, isn't it?

aspiringmonkey... I bet you will marry the next girl you meet!

I wouldn't be suprised, I have some past experience where I say I'll never do something, then having the turn of events force me to do it.

i.e. "I'll never again will drive an automatic car" Bam car accident, totaled my car, and had to buy a car quick and ended up with auto. http://andrew.dreamhost.com/UPLOAD/files/1/accidentatscene_009b.jpg

and if you say your boobs will never sag, that probably means you are flat. The bigger the boob, the longer the fall.

MBA = you are a carreer women, most guys don't like the type because they are more concerned with their career than family

 

I think it's hilarious what guys think about women in regards to career and family. I grew up with two working parents (one in finance, one a doctor) and I still got love and attention. My mom is awesome and I'm not screwed up or neglected.

Maybe you should try getting to know a woman before you decide she'd be a crap wife/mother based on her education.

 

fp I didn't say thats how I felt, I said thats how 99% of guys feel. They want a home maker. Personally with me everyone gets a chance, but more than 1 fuck up and you are out.

and relinquo its just a first name, no big deal


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aspiringmonkey:
fp I didn't say thats how I felt, I said thats how 99% of guys feel. They want a home maker. Personally with me everyone gets a chance, but more than 1 fuck up and you are out.

and relinquo its just a first name, no big deal


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How would you know the feelings of men outside of your immediate circle? It's like some crackhead with 11 welfare babies bitching that all men are deadbeats and all women have AT LEAST 3-4 kids.

More is good, all is better
 

and speaking on the subject of pregnancy http://men.style.com/details/features/full?id=content_5092

This is just fucked up, and is part of a reason why I don't trust anything a woman says

Oh and for those living in cali

"California is the worst. Here we impliment retroactive child support. A bitch gets pregnant, leaves you without telling you she is pregnant, 15 years later comes back and you are shocked to learn you have a child. The courts here will demand you pay 15 years of back child support, and give you no custody of the child. 15 plus interest for child she kept secret from you, a child you will never get to see."


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This is a little tough to read. It's so sweeping, so many generalizations, so many of which are patently untrue. I understand the point you're trying to make, Aspiringmonkey, but surely you don't mean that if a woman continues to have sex with her husband, she doesn't need to worry about him cheating? And that if a woman is sexually active, she doesn't gain weight? This is the kind of shallow and thoughtless treatment that makes it hard for a woman to interact with certain types of men.

Why are you so angry? And why so focused on a woman's looks?

 

because you can't be in a relationship with someone you are not attracted to.

If its a healthy relationship she needs to worry a lot less. Who is likely to cheat?

Someone who has regular sex or someone who was forced into a life of celibacy?

I'd like to think that if a HOT woman flirts with someone, the latter one is much more likely to cheat.

As far as sex and body weight...yes its relevant, sex is like 30-60 minutes of excersize(unless of course the woman just lies there expecting the guy to do all the work). You really think that all the sweating you do during sex doesn't affect your weight? + protein is good for you :P

Everyone is shallow, I'm not saying she needs to be a 10, but there needs to be the basic level of attractiveness. And if a woman puts in the effort to look good even a quasimodo looking woman will look acceptable, by the time she is done.

Hair Make up Clothes Gym Diet Liquor

And bam.

Why I am focused on woman's looks, because its the first thing a guy sees, and the woman needs to make a tiny bit of effort to make it happen.

And you make it sound like women aren't just as shallow...please, ugly/fat guys don't even get a time of day, unless they step out of a Ferarri.

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aspiringmonkey, so you don't like those who ask about your income and you don't like career women either. Does this seems logical to you? If a woman is not career-oriented and plans to be a housewife, don't you think that she needs a husband who can support her? Then why can't she ask about your income? What is your ideal women - a Stepford wife?

 

well i believe that you need to keep your job and personal lives separate. There is no reason for the woman to know my income for her to like me as a person, if it is a necessary thing for her, then I don't want anything to do with her.

Why can't she ask me my income? Because you are a gold digger if you select your SO solely on his income.

You can still work, and not be career oriented. A simple 9 to 5 job like being a secretary. What I meant by career woman is someone who constantly chooses her work above family, someone working 15 hours per day.

My ideal woman? Someone with a good personality, decent looks, intelligent, who puts family first, open minded, and with a career thats not too stressful.

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aspiringmonkey:
Why can't she ask me my income? Because you are a gold digger if you select your SO solely on his income.
Why SOLELY? What if a girl meets a guy and starts dating him and she really likes him and she begins to question herself - does she want to marry him? But marriage is different from romance. Suppose there's your ideal woman who works 9-5 as a secretary hence earns miserable income.. Does she need to wait until after the wedding to find out if the future husband is able to support her? Or does she have a right to ask BEFORE she gets herself into it? In fact, though, a smart woman would never ask directly. There are many ways to find out... But the point is - if you want to be a breadwinner - you got to be ready to answer this question.
You can still work, and not be career oriented. A simple 9 to 5 job like being a secretary. What I meant by career woman is someone who constantly chooses her work above family, someone working 15 hours per day.
Well this is exactly what I can't stand. I think a lot of guys are messed up these days. You got to decide weather you want to be "traditional" or "contemporary". You kind of lean towards traditional model where woman puts the family above her career etc. BUT you don't want to take on the traditional husband's responsibilities! That's what drives me crazy. I think if you want a family-oriented wife - then you got to be the man, you have to be a breadwinner, a decisionmaker, etc. If you can't bear this responsibility - go for a career wife. But do not expect to become a center of the Universe for her - be prepared for her long hours and all. This you don't want either. You're smart - you want to combine the best parts of both models - best from the guy's point of view of course. You want a woman who is financially insecure and can be pushed around and who gets nothing in exchange - she can't know how much you make and can not rely on you. The question remains - why would a woman like such a combination? I don't know. I think American women are smart too these days and they are not buying it. This is why so many of you guys have to go to some third world countries to get a wife.
 

Look, everybody is shallow, that goes for both men and women. The other party has to look decent enough for you to at least approach them in order to interact.

And yes, the laws are skewed towards favouring women over men in a divorce, especially in the case where there is a child from the marriage. Us guys will have to wait until law makers get the fuck up and get along with the program, so that we'll be protected by the law.

Personally, I'd pick a school teacher or a nurse over someone in our industry, anytime anyday. But marriage is an entirely different story. In today's times, a guy can gain everything from a marriage without getting married but risk losing everything, even stuff from before the marriage, if he gets married.

 
aadpepsi:
Alien... an American woman would smell their stink coming from a mile away, so some men have to go to third world countries in order to find their ideal submissive wife.
there is a change in the air, men are getting tired of low quality of women in America.

I mean honestly...give me 3 reasons for a guy to want to marry an American woman, which he wouldn't be able to gain from just being a BF/GF.

 

whats love gotta do with marriage?

You can love and not be married, you can hate each other's guts and be married.


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fp175:
If you're in love and live together for 5 years, she'll have all the rights of being your wife anyway...ever heard of common law?

Not entirely true different states have different laws in NY. common law doesn't mean she will get your money or property, unless of course a kid is involved then things get really complicated, but doesn't mean she gets half of everything the man made.

 

you need to read up on common law marriage

one VERY important part of it is

"Cohabitation alone does not amount to common law marriage; the couple in question must hold themselves out to the world to be husband and wife."

So just because you live together doesn't make you common law married


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aspiringmonkey, I knew this guy once who ranted as much as you. All for show. He dated a girl for 3 months, got married just as fast, has 3 kids now. All that banter and nonsense... UR going to marry the next girl you date!! You're the easiest type to whip! Please.

 

doubt it, I don't let sex influence any of my decisions anymore, so I'm not pussy whipped like a lot of guys...and without sex women have no weapons to use against a guy. And good luck pressuring a guy into marriage just by using your personality.

But yes, about 2 years ago, that would have been correct for me, since I pretty much let women walk all over me, and subscribed to that whole be a nice guy and respect all women bullshit.


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I know of an MD who married his administrative assistant. He started his own advisory firm and finances his wife's cabaret singing career. Which I find totally silly. She gets paid $x for a performance, but he'll pay out $xxxxx for her vocal training, rehearsal time, marketing, her private assistant (yes she has a secretary!) etc.

School teachers, nurses, airline stewardess, cabaret singers... such are the wives of an IB-ER :-)

 

aspiring you remind me of a line in a song I know: "How kind of you to offer what you think a woman should do or say. Maybe if you weren't so self-righteous, you wouldn't have such a hard time getting laid"

;)

 

i don't have a problem getting laid, thanks to MTV and Sex and the city, women in general have become whores, so it really doesn't take that much effort to get into a woman's pants.

But since I don't feel like getting aids, I try to have some standards :P


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hmm not all women. Sorry but you apparently are referring solely to the middle class white girl typically found in Girls Gone Wild. There are many other types of girls in the US...different racial, social, cultural backgrounds. If you end up in a job in New York you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

in my terms a women thats been working since highschool years and support herself without the help of her parents since college is the ones Ibanker should be looking for. Yes get a hottie thats in IBANK is great for the hours but if you really think about the kids and your future family think outside of IBANKing.

 

oh yeah totally agree. Career women make the worst wives.

-They are just as tired as you when they got home, so as a guy you get roped into doing all the chores. "I can't WORK and clean the house god damn it!" -All the stress from work, lowers their sex drive -They are always stressed from work, so will snap at you at any moment -Career always comes first for them -if they have kids, they drop them off on their nannies. -and they are much more likely to cheat, because at work they are surrounded by horny guys...and like the phrase goes what happens in vegas stays in vegas.

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Career men make the worst husbands...

  • Tired when they get home so the woman does everything
  • All the stress from work lowers their libido
  • They are always stressed from work and snap at you at any moment
  • Career always comes first for them
  • If they have kids, they don't know them
  • They are more likely to cheat because they're horny guys and they're surrounded by money hungry women all day and especially if they travel a lot... what happens in vegas stays in vegas
 

it's the same for both genders.

Now why is it expected wrt men, but not women?

One step further, what's the difference between a career woman and any other working woman?

The only difference, at least that I can think of, is that a career woman has more disposable income to hire help vs. a working woman who works even harder once she gets home.

 

Because men are supposed to be the breadwinners of the household. A woman doesn't work in the family? Not shocking...a man not working in the family...WHOA

Difference between a career woman and a working woman is in the type of job she does. Working woman: Teacher(9 to 3), or any other 9 to 5 job(secretary etc)...PLENTY of time to take care of the kids etc. A career woman on the other hand is a lawyer, Investment banker, doctor....pretty much any job where you are required to work loooong hours.

A working woman raises her kids...she teaches them morals, she listens to their problems, etc. Why do you think so many kids these days are so screwed up(emo crowd etc), becaue instead of raising them, the mom went off to become a lawyer etc, and threw the raising of the kids to the school.

Why do you think there is so much PC police in the world? Because instead of raising their kids right(profanity is a signature of an idiot), the mothers throw them in front of the boob tube and then get pissed when they hear FUCK on TV.

"THINK OF THE CHILDREN! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

A screwed up kid is much more likely to come from a family where mommy and daddy drive Benzes than from a 1 income household.

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Whoa. Aspiringmonkey, all I can say is that you come from a very different world than I do.

Almost all of the households where I grew up were one-income households where the women earned the income. Key difference? No Benzes, baby.

Keep your eyes open, dude. Look at real life and real people. The world is so much larger and with far greater variety than you seem to believe right now.

 

I've been all over the place, in places where there was poverty and pretty much starvation(russia), in the "ghettos"(brooklyn), and now in my current town(1 of the most expensive towns in NJ)

...and the most spoiled/screwed up kids come from families where both parents work to afford their way of life, while neglecting their kid's development. Mom and Dad drive their benzes, while the kid cuts himself and does drugs


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U think that its sweet for a woman to work 9 to 5 and then U expect her to start her 2nd job pronto, chop chop at 5:01 pm.

Why do women work? Because they CAN and everything else too.

Why do men work? Because they CAN'T do anything else.

When I started my career I worked in an office with 62 people, of whom only 4 were women and of the 4 women I was the youngest. One day during lunch, I was frustrated and asked my coworkers, "How do the men do it, they don't seem stressed?" One of my female colleagues answered:

"Because THIS is all they have to worry about, they have a wife at home taking care of EVERYTHING else!"

Hmmmm...

 

is that why guys are considered to be the better cooks?

as far as "they only have to worry about work", that may be true, but if you both work, and you have a problem with it talk with your SO and tell him to pitch in. Its all about 50/50. Relationships are all about communication, you can't expect someone to do all the work in the relationship.

reminds me of this story: a woman was talking at work about how she'll go home and make her husband a nice meal. All the other women in the office started telling her don't do it, "I've never made a meal for my husband", pretty much boasting that they don't do a thing for their husbands. Next day the woman gets flowers sent by messenger, and she is happy. The other women go "my husband never sends me flowers at work'


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My mother raised me well. I know my mise en place.

I just pulled a recipe today for a side dish I am going to prepare for Thanksgiving - an easy breezy recipe for an Israeli vegetable coucous with butternut squash and pine nuts. Israeli couscous is made out of a semolina grain that has a different flavor and texture than other couscous.

 

Ah, but it's not rice and it's not just vegetables. Sometimes the simplest recipes make the best dishes.

And creme anglaise is just cream, vanilla, eggs yolks and sugar, yet it makes a simple cupcake a phenomenal cupcake.

 

I grew up in the wealthiest county in New Jersey and most of the people I knew who were screwed up had a wealthy dad who was never home because he was always working (aka cheating) and the mom stayed home, obsessed with the kids because the marriage was a failure, and often functionally alcoholic. I knew people whose mothers didn't work, but they still were raised by nannies!

 

The world of haute cuisine is culturally male-dominated. Women face tough discrimination and have never been treated equally. That said, most food prepared at home in America is prepared by women.

Such as the Thanksgiving meal I'll be making for my fiance on my day off work:

Sage and boar bacon bread pudding, cranberry coulis, fried sage bouquet Doc's NV draft cider from upstate New York

Roasted wild Scottish pheasant, black truffle butter, Chardonnay reduction Arugula, chile lemon cream Eos reserve Chardonnay

Pecan pie, bourbon glaze, bourbon-vanilla creme fraiche

Seckel pear old-fashioneds

Oh, and by the way... no fancy school taught me how to cook. I taught myself, step by step, night after night, year after year, for seven years of constant cooking. Cooking for the men in my life, that is. Until I went into i-banking, I served a two- to four-course meal on most nights of the week.

My guiding lights on this venture were, of course:

Julia Child The Rombauer women, Irma and Marion Sara Moulton

Not Emeril, or Mario Batali, or JGV, or Thomas Keller. Why not? Because you can't cook their shit every day. I'm not saying life has to be an endless procession of thirty-minute casseroles, but if you're not a restaurant chef, you need to be able to get dinner on the table in four hours, start to finish. Four hours. You can't do it with that rarefied two-bite microgreen-and-fois-gras cuisine. That stuff is the product of overly-fertile imaginations in poufy white hats.

Of course magazines will pick the greatest restaurant chefs, but restaurant line production has nothing to do with household cooking. And when it comes to producing good food in the household, it's impossible to tell who is the greatest. Why? Because the greatest are obviously toiling away in their kitchens feeding their families, not doing book tours and making television appearances.

These arguments against women just don't come across as being very well-thought out. They're overly-generalized, they make logical faults (such as cooking in the home being the same as being a restaurant celebrity), and they come across as being a product of personal prejudice.

Also, what business does anybody have insulting women's cooking when they don't know rice from couscous from semolina? Please, bitch. Do you know how long you'd have to study just to be able to julienne vegetables for a real home cook? Even the most willing and capable men need lots of experience before I trust them to be my full-on sous-chef. Even my fiance isn't close yet. But my female friends who cook with me? They pick up the skills MUCH faster, often within six months or so.

Thus, in my personal experience, the women I've cooked with learn faster and come to fuller understandings of food chemistry and processes. It's a certain attention to detail and a knowledge of the importance of small things that many of the men I've known have simply shrugged off.

 

Julia Child used butter in everything died at 91... that's a good life on butta!

Mis Ind... if you save some of your bourbon and chardonnay, you could use it another time to make "Bourbon Chicken". I'm sure if you googled for it, you could find one that mixes bourbon/chardonnay + chicken broth into the recipe.

 

Oh yeah. I'm a big fan of butter, though I prefer olive oil for most savories (butter makes the mouthfeel and taste overly smooth for me, except in sauces). Moreover, I'm a big fan of the big JC, and I ain't talkin' Jesus.

I googled up a bourbon chicken recipe that sounds quite good. But in order to make it, wouldn't I have to actually save some wine? Hah. Not at my house!

 

You're funny :-)

Yes, the idea assumed you might save some wine.

The recipe I have at home goes something like this:

-Mix salt 'n pepper into flour and coat chicken breasts. -Brown chicken breasts in butter -Saute some shallots, pears and mushrooms in butter -Make a butter roux to thicken a sauce using a combo of bourbon/chardonnay/chicken stock -Add chicken, and shallot/pear/mushroom mix to sauce -Serve with walnuts/pecans sprinkled on top

Something like that... really easy.

 

don't get so worked up, aspiringmonkey. you'll never have to worry about gold diggers because you'll never make more than 60k a year.

 
3bg:
don't get so worked up, aspiringmonkey. you'll never have to worry about gold diggers because you'll never make more than 60k a year.
60K per year is more than enough for gold diggers. Well that and a pussy whipped guy.
 

You guys must have some really low standards if you think women in I-Banking are hot compared to other professions. It's simple logic, the chicks in Banking have niether looks or personality going for them so they try to make up for their miserable lives by going into a profession like I-Banking from which they can derive some sense of worth.

And its also a simple law of averages that hot chicks don't like working so hard when they could be out partying and getting laid.

Besides all that, the chicks in advertising/ marketing are far hotter and have much better personalities.

 

Wait... you're saying that as a means of deriving self-worth for girls, i-banking is second to looks? As if we said in college, "Oh no, I'm not as cute as Cindi or Kelly or Shawna and the boys don't like me... I might as well devote my entire existence to dominating my graduating class and successfully beating out thousands of the best undergrads in the nation so that I can work 100-hour weeks and get treated like dirt. That'll make up for the fact that Brad never asked me out!"

Dude, I think you're overestimating the importance of attractiveness and male attention in a girl's life. It's nice to be pretty and to be popular with boys, but it sure as hell isn't the kind of thing that makes you feel like you're spending your life in the best way possible. It's like, "Oh cool, I look good. One less thing to worry about." I don't think anyone who's out of middle school honestly views attractiveness as a justification for self-worth.

 

All I'm saying is most girls in I-banking never had any social lives even before they got into the profession because 99% are either unattractive or more common, have terrible personalities. That's why they got into a profession like Banking because they have no social life to lose.

And before you go ahead and say that the same theory can be applied to male I-Bankers, no it cannot, men have different lifestyles.

 
Seanc:
And before you go ahead and say that the same theory can be applied to male I-Bankers, no it cannot, men have different lifestyles.

trying to justify your background and motivations with shaky logic? I dont see any difference between the two sexes...

 
Seanc:
All I'm saying is most girls in I-banking never had any social lives even before they got into the profession because 99% are either unattractive or more common, have terrible personalities. That's why they got into a profession like Banking because they have no social life to lose.

And before you go ahead and say that the same theory can be applied to male I-Bankers, no it cannot, men have different lifestyles.

I don't think people go into ibanking because they don't have social lifes. I think its the fact that you need a high GPA, so that the only people who qualify are nerds. And usually a nerdy girl is butt ugly because she doesn't care what she looks like, so she is always dressed down.
 
aspiringmonkey:
Seanc:
All I'm saying is most girls in I-banking never had any social lives even before they got into the profession because 99% are either unattractive or more common, have terrible personalities. That's why they got into a profession like Banking because they have no social life to lose.

And before you go ahead and say that the same theory can be applied to male I-Bankers, no it cannot, men have different lifestyles.

I don't think people go into ibanking because they don't have social lifes. I think its the fact that you need a high GPA, so that the only people who qualify are nerds. And usually a nerdy girl is butt ugly because she doesn't care what she looks like, so she is always dressed down.

You hit the nail on the head young'n.

 

Yeah, and the assumption that I only choose to work because I'm not one of the select few who could be out partying... that's a little silly, wouldn't you say? Partying doesn't pay the rent, and even successful golddigging, if you're into that kind of "partying", doesn't give you freedom and a life of your own. Partying as a lifestyle is often for well-cushioned wealthy kids or people who just don't care about their lives. I-bankers are different sorts of people. We don't go into banking because we're ugly or unpopular or rejected. We go into it for the same reason guys do: to make money, to get exit opportunities, to challenge ourselves, to refine ourselves, to seize the prize of four years of hardcore undergrad competition. To assign lower, more shortsighted, less intelligent motives to girls sounds pretty absurd to me.

But that's just me. Maybe I'm just still all bitchy because Brad never asked me out in junior year. I never really recovered from that. Like, my nose wasn't THAT much bigger than Michelle's, and my tits are totally better, so I really couldn't see what his problem was. Am I ugly or something? Oh god, am I ugly? I am, aren't I? Why didn't somebody tell me?!?!?!!111!!!1!

 
Mis Ind:
Yeah, and the assumption that I only choose to work because I'm not one of the select few who could be out partying... that's a little silly, wouldn't you say? Partying doesn't pay the rent, and even successful golddigging, if you're into that kind of "partying", doesn't give you freedom and a life of your own. Partying as a lifestyle is often for well-cushioned wealthy kids or people who just don't care about their lives. I-bankers are different sorts of people. We don't go into banking because we're ugly or unpopular or rejected. We go into it for the same reason guys do: to make money, to get exit opportunities, to challenge ourselves, to refine ourselves, to seize the prize of four years of hardcore undergrad competition. To assign lower, more shortsighted, less intelligent motives to girls sounds pretty absurd to me.

But that's just me. Maybe I'm just still all bitchy because Brad never asked me out in junior year. I never really recovered from that. Like, my nose wasn't THAT much bigger than Michelle's, and my tits are totally better, so I really couldn't see what his problem was. Am I ugly or something? Oh god, am I ugly? I am, aren't I? Why didn't somebody tell me?!?!?!!111!!!1!

I think my comments hit a nerve, or is it that time of the month babe ?

Relax, take a deep breath, and get back to work. I know the kind of girls who get into Banking, I've met tons who fit my aforementioned description. They're usually not good looking, don't have boyfriends, and no social skills to speak of. That's why they get into Banking, for the same reason that nerds bury their noses into books instead of getting out more and living life, because it's the only option they have.

Why is it different for men ? Because men have noone to rely on but themselves, they're the ones with gf's/wives to support.

 

I'm gonna be in banking next year. And I've done some modeling in the past. I go out clubbing 2-3 times a week at members-only clubs in London. When I tell men that I study at a top university and am going into banking, half the time they don't believe me. My academic and professional goals have nothing to do with my looks. I'm not saying all women in banking are hot, but I don't think being attractive means that you don't want to have a fulfilling and lucrative financial career.

 
fp175:
I'm gonna be in banking next year. And I've done some modeling in the past. I go out clubbing 2-3 times a week at members-only clubs in London. When I tell men that I study at a top university and am going into banking, half the time they don't believe me. My academic and professional goals have nothing to do with my looks. I'm not saying all women in banking are hot, but I don't think being attractive means that you don't want to have a fulfilling and lucrative financial career.

I'm sure you're hot babe. But my comments were moreso directed towards American chicks that enter banking.

 

just don't get pigeoned into cap intro. from what i've seen, cap intro women are lovely.

fp175, are you part of the lse crowd that hangs out at movida, et al? if so, say hi to elisa for me.

 
aadpepsi:
Why do men always take umbrage under the quintessentially lame:

"Is it that time of the month"?!?

"Ibanking women must be ugly"

because everyone here remembers their college classes. The easier the classes, the hotter the women.

Physics classes were a total sausage fest, compared to Psych

 
aspiringmonkey:
aadpepsi:
Why do men always take umbrage under the quintessentially lame:

"Is it that time of the month"?!?

"Ibanking women must be ugly"

because everyone here remembers their college classes. The easier the classes, the hotter the women.

Physics classes were a total sausage fest, compared to Psych

I went to a super small.. like SUPER small non-target school. and our Senior Seminar finance class was all guys...

Also on a note.. I would much rather end up with a banker than a teacher. Who the fuck wants to marry someone that contributes pennies to the pot and you will have to support.... what really grinds my gears are all the gold-digger chicks that wanna be a "stay at home mom" as if they could actually cook, clean, OR do laundry.

 

"Is it that time of the month"

More or less typical... the moment one begins to bring cogent points against the stance of a certain type of guy, he says you must be PMSing and calls you "babe", attempting to cut you down to something worthy of outright dismissal. Next he's telling me to relax when I'm not in the least excited, as if by commanding me to take a deep breath, he can summon up the image of some high-strung bitch wringing her hands and spitting girly nonsense straight from her ovaries.

It's like some of these guys never learned the lessons of the 70's... which perhaps they didn't, as they'd have had to crack some pretty intense books to do so. I'm not a feminist -- hate the word, even. But it's guys like this that help me come closer to understanding the overly-defensive anarcho-feminist point of view. It's easy to feel attacked when, y'know, you are being attacked.

But that's okay. Seanc, do you know why you aren't getting laid as much as you'd like? Because all the girls are belong to me. I have muff-diving skills undreamt-of by mere mortal men and I understand and satisfy my girls in ways you probably wouldn't believe. I had to change my phone number twice when word started getting around back home. So it's tough to harbor hard feelings towards a frustrated dude when I get so much more than my fair share of top-notch female friendship.

Although to be 100% honest, as much game as I had back home in my element, I've had no time to play since I got to this damn city. I don't even want to try taking girls out when I've got to be responsive on the Blackberry at all times. There's practically nothing lamer.

 
Mis Ind:
"Is it that time of the month"

More or less typical... the moment one begins to bring cogent points against the stance of a certain type of guy, he says you must be PMSing and calls you "babe", attempting to cut you down to something worthy of outright dismissal. Next he's telling me to relax when I'm not in the least excited, as if by commanding me to take a deep breath, he can summon up the image of some high-strung bitch wringing her hands and spitting girly nonsense straight from her ovaries.

It's like some of these guys never learned the lessons of the 70's... which perhaps they didn't, as they'd have had to crack some pretty intense books to do so. I'm not a feminist -- hate the word, even. But it's guys like this that help me come closer to understanding the overly-defensive anarcho-feminist point of view. It's easy to feel attacked when, y'know, you are being attacked.

But that's okay. Seanc, do you know why you aren't getting laid as much as you'd like? Because all the girls are belong to me. I have muff-diving skills undreamt-of by mere mortal men and I understand and satisfy my girls in ways you probably wouldn't believe. I had to change my phone number twice when word started getting around back home. So it's tough to harbor hard feelings towards a frustrated dude when I get so much more than my fair share of top-notch female friendship.

Although to be 100% honest, as much game as I had back home in my element, I've had no time to play since I got to this damn city. I don't even want to try taking girls out when I've got to be responsive on the Blackberry at all times. There's practically nothing lamer.

You respond to two sentences of mine with long winded essays that clearly display your frustration and your lame attempts at humor clearly prove my theory as to the lack of personality among banker chicks. As for me getting laid, I'm a varsity athlete in my senior year of College babe, I can snap my fingers and have 10 chicks dropping their panties for me all at once lol.

 

Ladies, a quick tete-a-tete... curious, what would be the male equivalent for:

"Is it that time of the month" ---> Couldn't get it up today?

"Ibanking women must be ugly" ---> Ibanking men must be ______?

 

I do think that impotence is the primary reason why you wouldn't want to date a male banker. They stress out and don't take care of themselves and the cock just isn't that great. Beyond that, it's only the pencil-dicked guys that want to go into banking to begin with. Ever notice that it's exactly the same guys who like the big fancy cars? They need something to make up for their puny penii.

I'm no size queen, but I need something bigger than my pinky finger to make me a happy girl. Thus, I'm not tempted to stray with a banker dude. Did it once, ain't going back. Not only could he not keep it up, he couldn't ejaculate and his body sucked. My fiance, on the other hand, was a hot-bodied young waiter when I picked him up (no joke). And because he's never had to work all those long hours, let me just say he's still quite the champ three years later. Pretty face, pretty body, plenty of energy and staying power, ready at a moment's notice. Now that's what I'm talking about.

Why would a banker chick settle for anything less?

 
Mis Ind:
I do think that impotence is the primary reason why you wouldn't want to date a male banker. They stress out and don't take care of themselves and the cock just isn't that great. Beyond that, it's only the pencil-dicked guys that want to go into banking to begin with. Ever notice that it's exactly the same guys who like the big fancy cars? They need something to make up for their puny penii.

I'm no size queen, but I need something bigger than my pinky finger to make me a happy girl. Thus, I'm not tempted to stray with a banker dude. Did it once, ain't going back. Not only could he not keep it up, he couldn't ejaculate and his body sucked. My fiance, on the other hand, was a hot-bodied young waiter when I picked him up (no joke). And because he's never had to work all those long hours, let me just say he's still quite the champ three years later. Pretty face, pretty body, plenty of energy and staying power, ready at a moment's notice. Now that's what I'm talking about.

Why would a banker chick settle for anything less?

You know something, I get the feeling you're an expert on the issue of impotency among male bankers so I won't bother arguing.

On a sidenote, I'm glad you're Happy being engaged to the poorer woman's version of Kevin Federline LoL.

 

I don't know about the other male bankers out there, but I can't think of a better way to deal with the stress of this job than getting laid. And for the record I would say that the vast majority of all bankers, both male and female, are not attractive and are in the job for the same reason, money...

 

Woman, you're a riot.

I'm scrolling thru the forum for a quick distraction as I prepare to eat dinner. Just as I'm about to take a bite out of my rolled toasted chicken salad pita when all of a sudden I read the word "COCK". Nice.

I've never strayed with a banker. However, I was madly infatuated with one who had such a hot body that I was in heat every time I saw him or casually brushed by him, my heaving bossoms wanted me to tear my blouse off and have him right there. My favorite body part was his forearms. Yeah, you read that right. I said forearms. They were strong, muscular, the type of forearms that could pull me ferociously to him with one arm, rip my skirt off...

Ooops. Sorry about that. Harlequin romance moment. My apologies.

 
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An excellent illustration to the defensive response of men to the kind of jibes that they feel quite comfortable dishing out. Good idea, Aadpepsi.

I believe we have now proved that neither males nor females like to be dissed, made fun of, or broadly stereotyped. So, shall we stop? I just don't have the taste for it on either end. You see enough of the world, you experience enough of the various types of suffering it has to offer, and you lose your stomach for random cruelties. They're just not fun. This is a forum about banking... it exists for us analysts (and associates) to come to grips with our new lives and reach out to others who share the same experiences. It also exists for you hopefuls to listen, learn, and ask questions. It does not exist to prove our competencies and superiorities, nor as a platform to air racist, bigoted, or prejudiced viewpoints, nor as a place to stir up exciting drama to fill in the corners of ourselves. Let's respect that, shall we?

 
Mis Ind:
An excellent illustration to the defensive response of men to the kind of jibes that they feel quite comfortable dishing out. Good idea, Aadpepsi.

I believe we have now proved that neither males nor females like to be dissed, made fun of, or broadly stereotyped. So, shall we stop? I just don't have the taste for it on either end. You see enough of the world, you experience enough of the various types of suffering it has to offer, and you lose your stomach for random cruelties. They're just not fun. This is a forum about banking... it exists for us analysts (and associates) to come to grips with our new lives and reach out to others who share the same experiences. It also exists for you hopefuls to listen, learn, and ask questions. It does not exist to prove our competencies and superiorities, nor as a platform to air racist, bigoted, or prejudiced viewpoints, nor as a place to stir up exciting drama to fill in the corners of ourselves. Let's respect that, shall we?

I never came on here to attack you or anyone else. I get no kicks out of exchanging barbs with you 10 times a day, But I think random acts of cruelty must come naturally to you as a female banker.

 
Seanc:
I think random acts of cruelty must come naturally to you as a female banker.

I'm convinced that 90% of the testosterone posts on the forum are from boys. The immaturity is amusing. Seriously.

A grown, mature, succesful, poised, confidant man simply would not retort in such manner.

Hell, I appreciate banter - but the difference between men and boys is HOW they banter. A boy will resort to pubescent knee-jerk comments. A man however wouldn't display such sensibility. A man will be more restrained, clever even, and will know how/when to use sharp wit.

Just an observation... from a naturally cruel female banker.

 

I am actually surprised and at times saddened at the level of misogyny on this board. Either we have an abnormally high level of guys who have been recently burnt by first-rate bitches (and if so then maybe it's hatred at one directed at all) or maybe it's lack of experience/ exposure veiled in hate? The typical i don't understand you therefore I will hate you?

Either way I'm thankful that I seem to be working with a great bunch of guys who are able to continue a conversation with someone of the female persuasion without wanting to throw acid in her face or something equally pleasant which it seems like a few of you might be up for. Are women really that different (and awful) in the states??

 
livingthedream:
I am actually surprised and at times saddened at the level of misogyny on this board. Either we have an abnormally high level of guys who have been recently burnt by first-rate bitches (and if so then maybe it's hatred at one directed at all) or maybe it's lack of experience/ exposure veiled in hate? The typical i don't understand you therefore I will hate you?

Either way I'm thankful that I seem to be working with a great bunch of guys who are able to continue a conversation with someone of the female persuasion without wanting to throw acid in her face or something equally pleasant which it seems like a few of you might be up for. Are women really that different (and awful) in the states??

I can't speak for other guys, but as for me personally, I love American women, it's just that the women you find in banking more often than not turn out to be bitches, and that's wierd because equally smart women in consulting tend to be a lot better personality wise.

 
livingthedream:
I am actually surprised and at times saddened at the level of misogyny on this board. Either we have an abnormally high level of guys who have been recently burnt by first-rate bitches (and if so then maybe it's hatred at one directed at all) or maybe it's lack of experience/ exposure veiled in hate? The typical i don't understand you therefore I will hate you?

Either way I'm thankful that I seem to be working with a great bunch of guys who are able to continue a conversation with someone of the female persuasion without wanting to throw acid in her face or something equally pleasant which it seems like a few of you might be up for. Are women really that different (and awful) in the states??

do you actually think anyone shows this resentment for women in real life? of course not, everyone hides it in order to get into their pants.

And the guys you work with probably want to get into your pants + there is the whole professionalism thing.

 

Seanc - do you think they started as bitches or is it more of a gradual thing? Do green first years exhibit as much bitchiness as the more life weary second/ third years??

aspmonk - so you would have me believe that every guy i work with secretly despises me/ wants to get into my pants? this is too much of a headfuck for me, i don't think i have ingested adequate caffeine yet...

 
livingthedream:
Seanc - do you think they started as bitches or is it more of a gradual thing? Do green first years exhibit as much bitchiness as the more life weary second/ third years??

aspmonk - so you would have me believe that every guy i work with secretly despises me/ wants to get into my pants? this is too much of a headfuck for me, i don't think i have ingested adequate caffeine yet...

I think most women who enter the profession are inherently that way. Although I definitely think that longer you remain in the profession the worse you become.

 

despises? maybe, I dunno what your personality is like in real life wants to get in your pants? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT.

Want to test it out? Ask any one of your single friends out. They are bound to say yes, unless you are a fat blob


Disclaimer: The post above has been made by someone who is not currently employed in IBD, and has not had an interview yet...

 
livingthedream:
And remind me again why women who enter the profession are ugly/ fat/ bitches and men who do are masters of the universe?

I was equally critical of both sexes but more so of women because it just works out that way that women who are driven/aggressive feel they can't be successful without being bitches.

 

[quote=livingthedream]In my five-year career in IB, I have worked alongside/ in the same dept as 9 other females although not all at the same time (for the past year I

 

not all 6 were, only 2 - the others were just useless. Complete moron idiots and an embarrassment to the female race.

Ah - I was too tired to quit the first couple of years (no time to even think about going to interviews) plus even if I had time for a lucid thought I sure as hell didn't know what I wanted to do outside of banking (still don't), they kept paying me all this money and being nice to me just as I thought I might jump under a bus/ actually start seriously looking at other positions so here I am. Since the shitshow early days of my life, my job has become way more interesting and I've been actually thinking instead of just making edits to books/ creating thousands of models for every scenario under the sun ("so what if Company X decides to buy 23.56% of Company Y, combine it with all their balance sheet obligations, enter into a tax deferral partnership and set up a numbered Co that will mostly conduct dairy farming?"). It's tough to remember how to think after a few years of an analyst so my advice to anyone in their first few months would be to never lose that ability, fight the onset of the robot in you.

I'm still doing it because most days I wake up and I like my job, I think I have morphed into a BFL.

 

a harrasment lawsuit. The special treatment accorded the analyst impacts you and creates a hostile workplace. Check out the case law about this very interesting.

 

I'm not naive - I'm a woman, a banker, made VP, still not burnt out. Didn't marry a banker.

Is this the most sexist thread ever? I'm down with people posting their rants and experiences, but how offensive is it to assume that women are only hired because they are attractive and that even the smart ones will only go so far before they can't hack it like a man? Is this the 21st C or what?

 

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