How to meet girls at clubs

So a few weeks ago, my gf of 4 years and I broke up. I dated this chick basically all through college, so my experience attempting to hook up with new girls is limited. However, after work a few days ago, I got sloshed with some coworkers and then went out to a club and discovered something: I am embarrassingly bad with women. When I go up and talk to some new girl I've never spoken before, I really don't know what to say. I normally just ask boring questions like where are you from, what do you do, etc...and its painful because you can basically see these girls' eyes glaze over as you talk. Its kinda like watching a puppy get run over by a truck in slowmo. That added to the fact that loud music is always playing in the background...hence...you hear around 1/3 of what the girl is actually saying doesn't help things along. So, I know I'm a little late asking this....given I'm out of college...but how the fuck are you supposed to act in these clubs.

 

Clubs are not a good place to try and meet a girlfriend. When I'm at the club trying to pick up girls, the last thing on my mind is what they're saying.

As they say in Superbad: you gotta go to other places like spin class, farmer's market... pumpkin patch, given the time of year...

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 
BlackHat:
Clubs are not a good place to try and meet a girlfriend. When I'm at the club trying to pick up girls, the last thing on my mind is what they're saying.

As they say in Superbad: you gotta go to other places like spin class, farmer's market... pumpkin patch, given the time of year...

This. Think of the girls who go to clubs...they are not looking for a relationship. They want to get shitfaced (ideally at a guy's expense), dance, and maybe have a one night stand.

Online dating isn't bad. 22-24 is a time of major social change for everybody, so a few decent people wind up on those sites. Yea, there are freaks...but that holds for people everywhere.

 
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I am not going to go into detail but I will leave you with some advice, but first I have to ask you:

Why the fuck are you the one doing all the talking?

You're talking to a WOMAN (not hating, i love dem hoes) but seriously. Woman love to talk. Just guide the conversation along by asking her questions, keep eye contact and nod your head, you know, as if you were in an office meeting. Think about how you used to BS with recruiters and teachers, asking questions that sound 'smart' and you already knew the answer to.

I love to dance. oh really? classical or modern?

Yoga is aweeeesome. Yeah I hear its great, when did you get into yoga?

I just got back from vacay on XYZ place. Wow, that's awesome - insert random factoid from the travel channel or your past experience.

Build report and keep them talking. You're in a night club, you can't hear shit anyway. If it looks like shes feeling your stilo than mid-sentence grab her hand without saying a word and pull her on the dance floor and let her grind her vagoo on your leg for a half hour, maybe slip a finger in there and then try to bounce with her.

 
Cookies With Milken:
I am not going to go into detail but I will leave you with some advice, but first I have to ask you:

Why the fuck are you the one doing all the talking?

You're talking to a WOMAN (not hating, i love dem hoes) but seriously. Woman love to talk. Just guide the conversation along by asking her questions, keep eye contact and nod your head, you know, as if you were in an office meeting. Think about how you used to BS with recruiters and teachers, asking questions that sound 'smart' and you already knew the answer to.

I love to dance. oh really? classical or modern?

Yoga is aweeeesome. Yeah I hear its great, when did you get into yoga?

I just got back from vacay on XYZ place. Wow, that's awesome - insert random factoid from the travel channel or your past experience.

Build report and keep them talking. You're in a night club, you can't hear shit anyway. If it looks like shes feeling your stilo than mid-sentence grab her hand without saying a word and pull her on the dance floor and let her grind her vagoo on your leg for a half hour, maybe slip a finger in there and then try to bounce with her.

Cradle to the grave advice here. OP no worries, I was embarrassingly bad at talking to women at clubs after college also (was too straight-edge in my four years), but after BS'ing dozens of interviews, one realizes that there really isn't any difference between the two.
 
Money4Life:
I normally just ask boring questions like where are you from, what do you do, etc...and its painful because you can basically see these girls' eyes glaze over as you talk. Its kinda like watching a puppy get run over by a truck in slowmo.

LOL @ the puppy comment. As Blackhat said club is not a good place.Music is too loud too much whoring from both males and females clubbers. Do as he said, a handstand class, the yoga chicks at the gym, farmers' market, and other events that attract females.

Or else, go to club, ask the DJ to play "Rebound Chick", then go get a chick to grind.

Power and Money do not change men; they only unmask them
 

Clubs are the worst place to meet a girlfriend. It's for one night stands.

Basically if you're not really good looking or a good dancer, the odds will be stacked against you due to the nature of the venue and the social dynamics unfolding at a nightclub. What's important is not what you say but your general non-verbal cues and how you carry yourself. You basically have to neg her a little, exhibit alpha behavior, and be super aggressive once you receive the right signals.

As blackhat said, if you want to meet an actual girlfriend, the best places are "daytime" venues like the gym, coffee shop, whole foods, intramural sports league. Or in a few years just go to b-school, which is teeming with smart accomplished women looking for future husbands.

 
Brady4MVP:
Clubs are the worst place to meet a girlfriend. It's for one night stands.

Basically if you're not really good looking or a good dancer, the odds will be stacked against you due to the nature of the venue and the social dynamics unfolding at a nightclub. What's important is not what you say but your general non-verbal cues and how you carry yourself. You basically have to neg her a little, exhibit alpha behavior, and be super aggressive once you receive the right signals.

As blackhat said, if you want to meet an actual girlfriend, the best places are "daytime" venues like the gym, coffee shop, whole foods, intramural sports league. Or in a few years just go to b-school, which is teeming with smart accomplished women looking for future husbands.

I agree with all you just said except finding girls in business school. I'd want a wife, not a career girl.

Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.
 
That_Aston:
Brady4MVP:
Clubs are the worst place to meet a girlfriend. It's for one night stands.

Basically if you're not really good looking or a good dancer, the odds will be stacked against you due to the nature of the venue and the social dynamics unfolding at a nightclub. What's important is not what you say but your general non-verbal cues and how you carry yourself. You basically have to neg her a little, exhibit alpha behavior, and be super aggressive once you receive the right signals.

As blackhat said, if you want to meet an actual girlfriend, the best places are "daytime" venues like the gym, coffee shop, whole foods, intramural sports league. Or in a few years just go to b-school, which is teeming with smart accomplished women looking for future husbands.

I agree with all you just said except finding girls in business school. I'd want a wife, not a career girl.

I respectfully disagree with you on that point. Virtually all my friends in b-school met serious girlfriends there, and it looks like a few of them could lead to marriage. I can only speak for myself, but I very rarely meet women I have sometehing in common with, at a club or bar. And it's the type of setting where my strengths don't come out. School, on the other hand, is where I shine and can leverage my strengths to attract women.

 

I agree with Blackhat. If you're trying to meet a girl, try talking to her elsewhere.

Also, don't take it personal if she's not interested in talking to you. Whenever my friends and I go out to clubs, we're there to have a couple drinks, dance and just have fun. So, whenever a guy does try to hit on us, we just answer his question and just go back to doing whatever we were doing. It doesn't matter if you're sweet and funny - it's a pain to talk when the music is extremely loud and we're not interested in hooking up with anyone. Plus, if a couple creeps come and hit on us and you come up to us, we're gonna treat you as if you were a creep. Of course, not all girls are like us, but it's quite obvious when a girl is trying to get laid I think.

Lounges may be a bit better to mingle but still, talk to girls during the day. I think they will be a bit more friendly.

 

You have to be an asshole. It's not something to be proud about, but if you want the girl or get a girls attention, you need to break her down. For example. Say you go to Trader Joe's like mentioned above. Walk over to a girl point at her cart and tell her if she eats half the food in there she is going to get fat. Is it a rude thing to do? Yes. If you aren't very attractive will she taser you? Yes. But if you're at least decent looking and say if confidently you will have her engaged with you and interested in what else you want to say. Follow up with telling her to put her grocery's back and just focusing on cooking for you. Something like that. Good looking girls get complements from creeps 24/7 so take her down a peg with a playful tease.

 

After you get the small talk out of the way, try to find out what interests them and ask some questions about whatever their stupid hobbies are. Let them do all the talking and while they're talking keep thinking of questions to ask. Also, when you're talking to girl don't be afraid to disagree with them on a topic, it makes things more interesting. If you're just standing there holding your drink and agreeing with everything they say then they'll prob just get bored and eventually leave. I'm not saying nit-pick or argue every stupid thing they say because lets face it, almost everything they say is stupid, but if they make an airhead comment kind of tease them for it. The key is to do it in a non-awkward way, which can be tough. When done right it really breaks the ice and shows that you're not afraid to speak up. The average high-finance professional is much smarter and cultured then these superficial bimbos out in the clubs these days so it can sometimes be hard to find common interests right away, especially when your job is a significant part of your life. I used this technique extensively as an engineering major at my non-target party school, which teemed with bimbo sorostitutes. If a chemE major can use this technique on a sorostitute who's a LEADERSHIP MAJOR, taking only 4 classes and struggling with her "college algebra" class (= hs algebra 2 lol) then so can you. The dating game is similar to getting a job, you need to leverage your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. You're smarter, wittier and more successful, use those attributes to your advantage

 
BicepBrah:
After you get the small talk out of the way, try to find out what interests them and ask some questions about whatever their stupid hobbies are. Let them do all the talking and while they're talking keep thinking of questions to ask. Also, when you're talking to girl don't be afraid to disagree with them on a topic, it makes things more interesting. If you're just standing there holding your drink and agreeing with everything they say then they'll prob just get bored and eventually leave. I'm not saying nit-pick or argue every stupid thing they say because lets face it, almost everything they say is stupid, but if they make an airhead comment kind of tease them for it. The key is to do it in a non-awkward way, which can be tough. When done right it really breaks the ice and shows that you're not afraid to speak up. The average high-finance professional is much smarter and cultured then these superficial bimbos out in the clubs these days so it can sometimes be hard to find common interests right away, especially when your job is a significant part of your life. I used this technique extensively as an engineering major at my non-target party school, which teemed with bimbo sorostitutes. If a chemE major can use this technique on a sorostitute who's a LEADERSHIP MAJOR, taking only 4 classes and struggling with her "college algebra" class (= hs algebra 2 lol) then so can you. The dating game is similar to getting a job, you need to leverage your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. You're smarter, wittier and more successful, use those attributes to your advantage

I gave you a silver banana for this post. Great work. Truer words have rarely been spoken on WSO.

For smart men, it can be very difficult to relate to women at bars/clubs. This is something I struggle with immensely. The key is to engage in playful banter, similar to what you would do with your kid sister. Even if she's super hot, don't pay attention to her looks while you're doing this. You will stand out from all those creeps who are salivating over her and just can't wait to buy her a drink.

 
BicepBrah:
After you get the small talk out of the way, try to find out what interests them and ask some questions about whatever their stupid hobbies are. Let them do all the talking and while they're talking keep thinking of questions to ask. Also, when you're talking to girl don't be afraid to disagree with them on a topic, it makes things more interesting. If you're just standing there holding your drink and agreeing with everything they say then they'll prob just get bored and eventually leave. I'm not saying nit-pick or argue every stupid thing they say because lets face it, almost everything they say is stupid, but if they make an airhead comment kind of tease them for it. The key is to do it in a non-awkward way, which can be tough. When done right it really breaks the ice and shows that you're not afraid to speak up. The average high-finance professional is much smarter and cultured then these superficial bimbos out in the clubs these days so it can sometimes be hard to find common interests right away, especially when your job is a significant part of your life. I used this technique extensively as an engineering major at my non-target party school, which teemed with bimbo sorostitutes. If a chemE major can use this technique on a sorostitute who's a LEADERSHIP MAJOR, taking only 4 classes and struggling with her "college algebra" class (= hs algebra 2 lol) then so can you. The dating game is similar to getting a job, you need to leverage your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. You're smarter, wittier and more successful, use those attributes to your advantage

You sound like an elitist, arrogant punk. No wonder Brady liked you.

 
RatinaMaze:
BicepBrah:
After you get the small talk out of the way, try to find out what interests them and ask some questions about whatever their stupid hobbies are. Let them do all the talking and while they're talking keep thinking of questions to ask. Also, when you're talking to girl don't be afraid to disagree with them on a topic, it makes things more interesting. If you're just standing there holding your drink and agreeing with everything they say then they'll prob just get bored and eventually leave. I'm not saying nit-pick or argue every stupid thing they say because lets face it, almost everything they say is stupid, but if they make an airhead comment kind of tease them for it. The key is to do it in a non-awkward way, which can be tough. When done right it really breaks the ice and shows that you're not afraid to speak up. The average high-finance professional is much smarter and cultured then these superficial bimbos out in the clubs these days so it can sometimes be hard to find common interests right away, especially when your job is a significant part of your life. I used this technique extensively as an engineering major at my non-target party school, which teemed with bimbo sorostitutes. If a chemE major can use this technique on a sorostitute who's a LEADERSHIP MAJOR, taking only 4 classes and struggling with her "college algebra" class (= hs algebra 2 lol) then so can you. The dating game is similar to getting a job, you need to leverage your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. You're smarter, wittier and more successful, use those attributes to your advantage

You sound like an elitist, arrogant punk. No wonder Brady liked you.

I'm actually not elitist; I'm open to meeting/dating all types of girls, even if they're not that smart/educated. I've been living back home and commuting to work for the last year since graduating so my experience is definitely skewed quite a bit towards the pessimistic/bitter side. I'm from NJ so when I go out to clubs/bars the quality of girls (for dating) is flat out atrocious lol. Could I have gotten my point across in a less douchy way? Surely, but I think my previous post is pretty accurate.
 
RatinaMaze:
BicepBrah:
After you get the small talk out of the way, try to find out what interests them and ask some questions about whatever their stupid hobbies are. Let them do all the talking and while they're talking keep thinking of questions to ask. Also, when you're talking to girl don't be afraid to disagree with them on a topic, it makes things more interesting. If you're just standing there holding your drink and agreeing with everything they say then they'll prob just get bored and eventually leave. I'm not saying nit-pick or argue every stupid thing they say because lets face it, almost everything they say is stupid, but if they make an airhead comment kind of tease them for it. The key is to do it in a non-awkward way, which can be tough. When done right it really breaks the ice and shows that you're not afraid to speak up. The average high-finance professional is much smarter and cultured then these superficial bimbos out in the clubs these days so it can sometimes be hard to find common interests right away, especially when your job is a significant part of your life. I used this technique extensively as an engineering major at my non-target party school, which teemed with bimbo sorostitutes. If a chemE major can use this technique on a sorostitute who's a LEADERSHIP MAJOR, taking only 4 classes and struggling with her "college algebra" class (= hs algebra 2 lol) then so can you. The dating game is similar to getting a job, you need to leverage your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. You're smarter, wittier and more successful, use those attributes to your advantage

You sound like an elitist, arrogant punk. No wonder Brady liked you.

+1
Power and Money do not change men; they only unmask them
 

I loved the post about bitches bein' stupid, but it's only true in college and Soho social establishments. Try hanging out somewhere a little more respectable.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 

Act like a dickhead.

It's your territory.

Be rude and outrageous and arrogant as hell. Once you have their attention and are grabbing their ass and tits.

Switch to cocky and smart and then be yourself. It's a done deal.

Girls are idiots. They don't know what they want.

 

I hate this 'if you're attractive thing' - surely the guy asking this question has concerns about his looks otherwise he would never breach the subject. Handsome dudes now their strengths and limitations, so-so looking dudes only know their limitations.

 
RatinaMaze:
I hate this 'if you're attractive thing' - surely the guy asking this question has concerns about his looks otherwise he would never breach the subject. Handsome dudes now their strengths and limitations, so-so looking dudes only know their limitations.
op was able to get girls in front of him so his looks are sufficient. If the conversation is boring or awkward, most of the time it doesn't matter what you look like.
 

You're supposed to act like you don't care about what they like to do or basically anything else they have to say. Just talk about yourself, make fun of their opinions and tell them stupid stories that relate to nothing. The girls who will want to hook up with you will stick around the rest of the night and the other ones who wouldn't have hooked up with you anyways will be gone in a matter of minutes.

This to all my hatin' folks seeing me getting guac right now..
 

Slip the DJ a Benjamin to stop the music and hand you the mic. "Hey can I have everyone's attention please - check this dong y'all" [Proceed to whip out dong allowing it to unravel onto floor/red carpet like a slinky skipping three steps down your staircase]

 

When I pull up out front, you see the Benz on dubs When I roll 20 deep, it's 20 knives in the club Niggaz heard I fuck with Dre, now they wanna show me love When you sell like Eminem, and the hoes, they wanna fuck

But homie ain't nuttin' changed hoes down, G's up I see Xzibit in the cut, hey nigga roll that weed up If you watch how I move, you'll mistake me for a player or pimp Been hit wit a few shells but I don't walk wit a limp

 

Ya, I guess it makes sense that clubs arent the best place to find a girlfriend. My question then is how the heck are you supposed to start convos with girls you meet in random places. For example, when I walked into chipotle today, I saw two girls sitting at a table up near the door. One of the girls was kinda meh looking but her friend was smoking (in reality, she probably wasnt...she was asian and i have a bit of an asian fetish..what can I say). They were sitting at a table that only sat two people and there were not tables where I could sit and attempt to make eye contact with the hott girl. So, I had no clue how to talk to them without coming off as super creepy. I guess what I'm asking is how bad is it to just randomly walk up to random girls in random places and just say hi.

 

Try to make eye contact with a little smile, and if she holds eye contact and/or smiles back you can walk up and say hi and try to start a conversation. Realize that you aren't trying to score with every girl you talk to. It can just be friendly conversation and you end up saying goodbye and walking away without a number. It's just good practice for building your confidence. Once your confidence is up there, you'll realize it's pretty easy to build a more intimate relationship.

 

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