What's to Stop America From Pulling an Adolf Hitler?
We've all heard of the massive deficits in America and how much we owe to the rest of the world. So here's a simple solution. Borrow all the money for our entitlement programs from foreigners and when it's time to pay up, we say "What money?" It's not like anyone has the balls go to war with a country that has 5,000+ nukes (that we know about.) What are they gonna do cut us off of trade? The United States is a very domestic based economy and it seems like every time we trade, we end up with a trade deficit, so why bother? If someone threatens to cut off the oil supply, we send in the troops and kill everyone that is screwing up the supply line. While at the same time staying far away from humanitarian aid missions.
American Empire restored.
Just get back from CPAC?
Just got back from Discourses on Livy.
Same thing haha
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What's to stop it?
I don't know... Morality? The view that nationality is a construct rather than a biological category?
I shit on relativism, morals, and all that crap, but even to me the answer here seems obvious.
That sounds good but morality and ethics aren't going to pay off the trillions we owe and trillions more we will owe over the next few decades.
When morality and ethics fail, Social Darwinism circumvents.
Other countries have nukes ?
Well I tried inserting a picture but I'm pretty sure I screwed up. So I'll use this link instead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons
Look at the map on the right hand side of the page. We only don't pay back the countries that are grey, because they don't have nukes and if they try to get nukes, we declare them an extremist government and use it as an excuse to invade and take their natural resources, in addition to not paying them back.
Ok, but at some point a coalition will form who's members will have nukes
Does anyone really wanna be the one to launch the first nuke at a nuclear super power over economic differences?
I actually retract my previous statement, based on that logic. We can get away with not paying back whomever we choose.
If you try to fuck with them, russians and chinese won't blink twice over nuking US. While america has the strongest military, it is nowhere NEAR to being invincible if at war with an actual power. The gap is not as big as you think it is...
The Chinese aren't crazy enough to bring about a nuclear winter over a trillion dollars. They are a logical thinking entity. The United States not paying them back would be a thorn in their side, whereas a nuclear war between the two countries would bring about the end of civilization.
I see my whole life in front of me.
Billionaire hedge fund manager by 30. President by 40. Supreme Emperor by 50.
Vote for me America! Make the rest of the world work for you!
How weak or stupid do you think the rest of the world is? you need to travel my friend.
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How weak or stupid do you think the rest of the world is? you need to travel my friend.
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Weak and stupid enough for one nation to produce 28% of the world's GDP.
Two things: 1) If the US does that to the world it is just one step prior to its leaders from using the same power on their people, how long would you expect would take such a regime from killing their dissidents at home and reduce freedoms? 2) I believe it should be somewhat derived from overconfidence or quite closely related, but people tend to see themselves reflected in the big names of history, Alexander, Caesar, Anibal, etc without taking into account that for every Caesar there were millions of unknown people, poor, weak, legacy-less. Now, chances are, that if the US did such an approach you would not be the one sitting at the power table and enjoying world domination, moreover it is very likely that you would be just one comment away from dead. Even German aristocracy had a lot of issues when Hitler rose to power, if you wish for such a world think that chances are you are not Goebbels or Göring equivalent, but one anonymous soldier or worker. Think 1984-like.
you are not really smart, are you?
From a conventional warfare perspective the United States of America is God. Countries with nukes would never use a nuke on the United States, unless we tried to directly invade them. So, why not extort everyone that doesn't have nukes? And bring our balls of steel to the negotiating table for everyone else.
American Nations: http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/databases/armies/an.asp
European Nations: http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/databases/armies/e.asp
Middle Eastern Nations: http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/databases/armies/e.asp
East Asian Nations: http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/databases/armies/ea.asp
South Asian Nations: http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/databases/armies/sa.asp
African Nations: http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/databases/armies/a.asp
The United States today is still in every essence of the word a Super Power, but the longer we wait to make drastic changes, the more that position of power will deteriorate. America needs a Julius Caesar.
ill keep it straight and simple....it IS happening before our eyes, just a little more civil, and in a different fashion. Albeit vile nonetheless.
Obviously, a politician is never in a position to be as brutally honest as I am.
You fail to see three major problems with your idea. Sure we could get away with just not paying people back but that would have negative effects. One we would loose our status as having the world reserve currency, two unless we have a surplus we have to keep borrowing money and who is going to loan money to someone who doesnt pay it back? Finally a large portion of outstanding debt is held by American citizens, you want to fuck them over too? Im all for America flexing its muscles and beating coutries down but you have to look at things in a rational manner.
1) Why borrow money when you can steal it?
2) Why does an imperialistic isolationist care about being the world's reserve currency?
3) American citizens will receive payment in full and receive tax breaks, due to how much we make extorting the rest of the world.
How do you plan on "stealing" enough to cover the costs?
Every natural resource in the world, outside of countries with nuclear capabilities becomes property of the United States of America.
... Man, you wont understand...
1) So if I get other countries working for the US, what keeps the guys ruling that from making also most people in the US to work for them too? its just a notch more.
2) You lack the strength to enforce your control, you can say "if you dont give us your oil we bomb you" and then they can just set the wells on fire, then you need to spend money and send loyal people to control those wells, then you become target to local resistance, then you get some people who think that is not worth the effort cause they are not getting enough of that. Try that on every resource and country in the world and you will start to get problems.
Anyway, youre just overconfident and if that ever happens chances are you wont benefit much from it. The day that happens is the day I get myself a rifle and start working on my sniper skills.
This is why politicians can't be honest.
I don't think you understand the full extent of America's military capabilities. The reason we have been at war in the Middle East the last 10 years is because we are fighting a politically correct war. If American soldiers and weaponry were not bound by the morality principle, the war would be quite short indeed.
But you don't have to believe me. When oil gets to $500 per barrel, the politicians will cook up quite a clever story.
You're a fucking idiot. Domestic-based economy? What the fuck does that mean? We import almost everything we need. How is the US going to function when the rest of the world cuts us out of trade? Not only that - but all of those multinational corporations that are headquartered in the US but have their manufacturing bases elsewhere - watch how fast they pull out of the US when they have to choose between continuing to make lots of profit vs. supporting some insane idea.
And oh you're going to use the US military to fight the entire world? We're already spread super thin from just dealing with Iraq and Afghanistan for 8 years. You know nothing about military operations. Yes, we have the best fighting force on the planet, but don't confuse best training and technology with the raw numbers/power that is needed to fight a large-scale war. Europe is still more than capable of defending themselves if it came down to it. China has a population that's 4x our size. And your average obese, consumption-obsessed American will not volunteer to join the army over this ridiculousness. And we are not the only country with nukes...not that that matters because if it came down to a nuclear war, this whole conversation is pointless.
I don't know what mix of crack and asthma medication you're on, but wow...
Economics 101. Most of the goods produced in America are consumed by Americans...
You are an idiot, a then b is not the same as b then a, so most goods consumed in the US are produced where?.
Yeah? And most of the goods produced in the rest of the world are ALSO consumed by Americans. I'm exaggerating of course, but stop trade with the rest of the world and all you'll be left with is overpriced food and shitty cars.
Most cheap goods are produced in foreign countries, but the goods and services that make up the largest percentage of our GDP such as intellectual goods are produced right here at home. We can let some more Mexicans in and reduce the minimum wage, if we wanted someone else to produce our cheap goods.
Or better yet, turn the countries we import from into colonies. I'm sure Thailand would love it if we built some schools.
Fuck China, I refuse to contribute to their rise to power.
Why not just nuke the entire world while you're at it? If it's pre-emptive, they won't be able to react in time. And then we won't owe anybody money because they'll all be dead and we can have the whole barren earth to play around with.
Moron
I think this is all caused by that recent commercial with the Chinamen talking about failed empires... put out by the Center Against Government Waste
Such a great commercial.
Couldn't agree more,
All said and done, I love my India. I'd rather work here for a while and go back and improve my country than be a US citizen. Pretty sure most Indians, if not all, are like me.
You have some serious anti-American sentiment. America is the most powerful country in the world for a reason, we may be on the decline, but hopefully fucked up people like me will rise up, and maintain that position of power by any means necessary. Seriously though necessity is the mother of invention, and I believe America has a trick up its sleeve.
Time to get drunk.
Nothing wrong with self criticism, imo. I've criticized my country many times in ways that may seem borderline anti-Indian. But I do that only because I want the criticism addressed. Not because I hate my country.
IMO there are enough opportunities to succeed, but Americans are (like ANT said) too complacent. Not hard working enough like your ancestors who were immigrants (and had to fight to survive each day). But I'm not too sure why a lot of people complain with what they have though. This country has a lot of what didn't exist many years ago and what doesn't exist in many countries. Perhaps it's human nature to be never satisfied with material possessions. Nevertheless, you guys have all what one needs right from the get go. Even if you have that complacent attitude and let other countries pass you, you should still (theoretically) have a pretty good quality of life.
PS I find it interesting that Indians/Asians win (or are at least finalists) Spelling Bee contests!
Poor Americans will win spelling bees when the taxation rates on the rich are increased. Everyone knows that good personal choices can be influenced by taxation policy.
Trust me dude, we would have a lot more opportunity for you and people in this nation that utilize them if we simply stopped listening to the loser citizens that keep us down.
BUT DEN WE'LL TEK DER JAWBZ!!!11ONE
Lol, for a first time I agree with ANTs view, people from the US per se have no superior skills. Following that line of though, shouldnt the US open its borders and let free market do its job?.
I don't believe in an open boarder in the sense that I think the USA should be able to know who is coming and going. With that said, I think immigration policies should be relaxed and it should be easier to get H1 visas and stuff like that.
I am against illegal immigration simply because we don't know who is coming here. Could be criminals, could be people looking to not work, people with no family ,etc. Once the boarder is secure I am totally cool with foreign worker cards being issued and people coming here.
At the end of the day, the reason we have so many failed citizens is because of personal issues. Personal choice, decisions, etc. These things cannot be taxed, legislated, law'd away. You need to volunteer, make a commitment, etc.
Politics gets in the way of this. We need community watch, people getting together to paint over graffiti, parents reporting truant kids, parents not tolerating kids disrupting schools, people helping each other, community.
You can pass all the laws in the world, create all the taxes and rules. Won't prevent someone from choosing to get high and fail a test. Not study for the SAT's, etc.
At the end of the day, those who are successful and those who fail, by and large, are those who simply execute on the little things. That you cannot fix with big government.
^^^^^^ One point I agree with you there. Maybe also within the US people should earn their citizenship XD.
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Because you need them - as a country, we would be completely screwed without a huge number of unmotivated people. Somebody has to pave the road, run the trains, etc. You risk running into the problem of too many chiefs, not enough indians...
Furthermore, imagine a US where everyone is highly motivated. What would these people do? Most professional industries are limited by demand - law, medicine, finance (kind of), engineering, etc. So the supply of workers qualified for those positions might increase, but with demand staying near-constant all that would happen is (a) competition increases to get one of these jobs, leading to many being under-employed, or (b) they start to pay less, for no other reason than that they can. The exception I could see here is science/research but who would pay for that?
Demand defines what people are motivated to do, and there is not enough of it to motivate everyone to go to college (or finish high school, etc). However, increasing demand has historically pushed more people into college at a sufficient rate - its not like there are not enough college grads out there right now. Efficient markets would dictate that if the country needed more level X labor, then it would pay current level X laborers large sums of money as a result of competition, leading others to try to become level X labor in the near future, which would lead to an over-supply, decrease wages (see - quants lol), decrease new entrants into labor pool X, increase salaries, and eventually reach a steady-state equilibrium.
He owned this thread. I find that immigrant parents who come here appreciate what they have because they've seen how bad it is from where they came from. My father (a non-Asian, non-Indian immigrant) was generally very lax with me as I was growing up, except for one thing...school. He told me something when I was 11 that I will never forget..."I will literally kill you [he was dead serious] if you ever screw up your education". Let me tell you, thats enough to motivate anyone. I think that sums up what a lot of immigrant parents feel towards their kids.
Yup. Education was #1 in my house. I remember coming home with a 98 once and my mom goes "not smart enough for a 100 huh" and laughed at me. Bitch.
I've said it once, I will way it again. A college degree is the clear path out of poverty. All you have to do to get there is show up to school, do your homework and read some books. Simple things.
SB is due when I get some more.
Hmm
Thanks for hijacking my thread Ant. I'd be pissed off, if I didn't agree with everything you just said.
America is a nation of immigrants and the best and brightest always do find a way to get here. Now if we could just get rid of irresponsible spending on entitlement programs and wars that don't make a profit, we might just be the next Roman empire.
What stops you from raping a girl when you're horny? You are stronger than her and you want something that she got ie. natural resources. Then you threaten her not to go to police in fear of "WoMD" aka your fists.
what an idiot
I used to think about taking over the world in middle school--before I realized that the world was dynamic and that Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was not an adequate model for international diplomacy.
and take your Machiavellian shit / sweeping generalizations with you
Do you really think if the U.S. didn't pay China that China would just stand by??? You overestimate the power of the U.S.
Real talk, if this strategy was truly to work, we'd likely have to pre-emptively strike china and Russia with a massive nuclear onslaught and turn both countries into the surface of the moon overnight. It likely could not be done with ICBMs cause it would just cause a global holocaust. However, if there were another delivery mechanism and/or we could bring down their defenses in a cyber attack, I think it could be done.
If you legitimately throw morals out the window, I believe the US military could destroy everything and do whatever the fuck it wanted. I'm not saying we'd want to do this, but I truly believe that we could. fuck, we could probably send unmanned stealth UAVs strapped with nukes to do it. People are very quick to think that the US military "isn't that strong" because we are fighting wars while being humanitarians in the middle east. If we threw the rule book out the window, it'd be game ovah for anyone in our path.
Right, because China and Russia probably dont have any way spys in the US and they would never catch wind about premptive strike. not to mention the amount of training and preparation that would go into this.....one last thing who will fund this large scale military operation?
Russia has second strike capability. And they have the largest stockpile of thermonuclear warheads in the world...far more than the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-36_%28missile%29 There's a reason why it was called Satan. And that's just one missile.
(Please, let's stick to the topic)
Imo, if the US dares make such moves, you will see countries flocking to Russia and China to form one union and will effectively have the world vs the US. Considering alienation from Europe, NATO will either be dissolved or will carry on as capitalist countries this side of the Atlantic Treaty Organization or will eventually band with Russia et al. Al Qaeda will absolutely love this. They don't have to consult with anyone to begin their attacks on the US from multiple places (They are not only in Afghan/Pakistani caves). Even if they stay put, the world in general will now be itching for the US to make any tiny escalating move. You guys will inevitably do that. Even if a few countries will remain post nuclear holocaust, nuclear winter, climate change with severe release of heat, earthquakes with multiple explosions left and right of several megatons in magnitude, that country will definitely not be the US. Or Russia or China for that matter. With that as the outcome, I really don't see the desire you have in destroying your own country. Or the world for that matter. Why don't you just pay off what's not rightfully yours?
One more thing, all talk of conventional superiority goes out of the window in a nuclear war. Except for stealth fighters, subs and other tactical equipment, the number and training of soldiers or tanks or other data don't matter.
Indians and Chinese are droids without creativity. Americans and Japaneses are leading the way of the future. The reason children in America are stupid is because they don't have year round schooling like other countries. Most blacks/poor student fall behind because their parents let them go wild in summer, so they become stupid. Read Malcolm Gladwell book, Outliers and research about it. The media, sports, and video games dumb Americans down so much, it puzzles me why no one has put a stop to this.
Smh. ^ This is why your country sucks. If people like him exist, I can perfectly see why the US is going down the drain...
This was the basis of my argument... The reason we don't see large scale wars anymore is because after Word War 2, all the world's major powers started arming themselves with nuclear weapons. Wars between world powers no longer had a winner and a loser, because in a nuclear war and a nuclear winter, everyone loses.
Therefore, I don't see any reason not to exploit those who do not have nukes. Like China, EU, and Russia are going to go on a humanitarian aid mission against the United States. All sides know what would happen, even if it started off being a conventional war. We would sooner or later all end up nuking each other. Even if we refused to pay a world power the money we owed them, you really think that warrants a nuclear holocaust? My money is on the fact that the United States can do essentially whatever they wanna do, and NO ONE has the balls to step up to the plate.
However, I think we're all being a little naive assuming nukes are the best thing in the US arsenal. We probably have some crazy stuff we can't even imagine. Maybe we can spread a horrible disease in countries that go against the interests of the United States and make it look like we had nothing to do with it. Then, we can go on a humanitarian aid mission to make it look like we're the good guys. We might even be able to make it look like Saudi Arabia did it, America could really use that black gold.
Never underestimate your enemy. Russians are some of the most blindly aggressive people I have seen from a foreign policy and war standpoint. What's to stop them from doing the same thing or making your created infection worse to a point you can't handle? Let's not forget that espionage is not something that happens only in movies. You wouldn't see the PAKFA aircraft otherwise. What's to stop them leaking documents that you have that show your involvement? It goes back to my point again. Countries will band together with Russia and any ill move around the world will be used against you. Even if you were innocent in later cases. Also, the US is not the only one with secretly developed advanced tech. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth Just one example of undisclosed military technology discovered outside the US.
EDIT: Not first discovered, but found nevertheless.
Gladwell has some interesting stuff, but it is populace, fluff research. I think there is much more that goes into things than in his book.
Yes, Gladwell pulls his research from the clouds, but it makes sense. America only pull the smart or wealthy children from China and India, thus the skimming effect. It makes no sense for children to have a summer break that are 3 months long. By that time, students forget most of the material they had learn. Most elite schools in Asia have year round schooling with 2 week breaks in between. The only reason there is a summer break is because back in the day students had to help with preparing the crops.
About the nukes, there not a chance U.S. would go to nuke crazy with a major power for economic reasons. If you know anything about warfare, that nuclear weapons would be be the last line of defense. America screwed other countries on its debt before, during Nixon presidency the U.S. owed Europe. The U.S. switched off the gold standard to the fiat currency and inflated the dollar; practically giving them the middle finger.
If a global war broke out, every country would grind to a halt. This would not be the best interest for the politicians or the elites. The U.S. display its power by performing economic warfare on other countries through subsides, sanctions, and tariffs.
Lastly, about the superiority of your military and intelligence...how about you find and actually kill Osama?
Conventional warfare and manhunts are two very different things.
It's not exactly a manhunt per se. You need to find his aides to go after him. It's a group you are targeting, not exactly one man. And come on! You have some of the "best" tech in the world. And that guy is just one tool who lives like a cave man! No excuses after 10 years! If you could find Sad Damn, it should be the same for Osama.
1) Foreign debtors get screwed. 2) Iraq become a colony. 3) Venezuela becomes a colony. 4) South America makes our cheap shit, because China won't like us anymore.
Is that really enough to warrant the end of civilization? No one wants the end of civilization and I don't think the actions above are going to provoke the EU, China, or Russia into war.
Mike are you still in 6th grade?? You need TROOPS to control hostile colonies. If you think the US has enough manpower to occupy Iraq, Venezuela and all of South America - not to mention a hugely beefed-up defense force at home - you're fucking delusional. Lay off the crack and the Command & Conquer games.
I never said we would need to occupy South America. You really think a country with an average income per capita of less than $5,000 per year is going to complain if the US started building factories there instead of China?
You think we would need a beefed up defense force at home? I'm pretty sure 11 carrier battle groups and the most advanced Air Force in the world are going to make sure no one is coming anywhere close to the United States. It would be a suicide mission. As I said before, no one is taking the nuclear option over foreign debt issues and imperialistic aggression towards Iraq and Venezuela.
The one area where you might be onto something is the occupation force. The United States has a staggering number of unemployed young people. Why not take some of these people off entitlement programs and place them into an occupation force? Like an IED knows the difference between a battle hardened killing machine, that we spent $200,000 training and a conscript. Our current volunteer force is the best trained, most high tech, and most EXPENSIVE in the world. They might be the most suitable too spearhead the invasion, but in the case of an occupation force, it is essential too have a large number of men on the ground.
I really think people are overreacting and not thinking about the huge amount of propaganda that would be involved if anyone was to ever do this. The United States obviously isn't going to go out and become an imperialist. We'd be liberating countries from extremist governments who just so happen to have a vast amount of natural resources. I'm simply stating the matter from a practical and theoretical standpoint, whereas a politician would be stating the same situation, using a completely different terminology. Anyone who is naive enough to think that something like this could never happen, needs to closely examine the last few thousand years of civilization. Desperate people do desperate things and the United States is not an exception.
Why should Mexico make your cheap stuff? Why can't they just say f off just for the sake of it? And Venezuela is VERY pro Russia. Russia will go apeshit and will make drastic threats over this. Iraq has Mid East guys batting for it. And another oil embargo is all that will cripple your nation. Let's not forget the riots you will have in your own country. This debtor screwing over is short term and unsustainable and when shit hits the fan, you will see violent riots. Mostly against the rich. The debtors who you screwed over would love this and could further fuel this instability. Your country could collapse from within. Again, you underestimate Russian aggression. If you are willing to go lengths to secure your prosperity, they are willing to do the same at your cost.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree at this point. We'll see what happens when oil gets to $500 per barrel and half our budget is spent on interest payments.
My guess is alternative energy will pick up since people hate wars. If not, you will see wars for survival, with some nuclear element to it. People are going to be fighting for this stuff. No colonies or playing "nice". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2142 :P
There's no such thing as some nuclear element. One nuke launched between two nuclear powers would lead to a catastrophic chain reaction. I hope that some form of alternative energy becomes economically feasible. The only feasible option right now, took a major blow after recent events in Japan. Nuclear energy is going to suffer some serious setbacks.
I think we should do away with summer break. It came about because the USA used to be largely agrarian and kids needed to be off in the summer. Now there is no point to it. Make school year round with 3 week breaks mixed in. That way kids wont need 2 months to relearn things.
I can only imagine what the teacher unions will demand, if they had to work year round. I might have to get my masters in education. I might be able to make $200,000 per year by teaching kids how to play in a virtual stock contest.
I was thinking the same thing too. I think $50,000 is enough for a teacher, depending on the state. Its not that hard to teach children since it's the same material used every year. You could probably replace teachers with Waltson from Jeopardy (computer program) and have teachers do the one on one stuff. Most public schools are based on Dewey's system. Teach children the fundamentals math, science, logic, and writing; leave the Shakespeare stuff at the door.
My high school had teachers making $130,000 per year. There's also cops that make over $200,000 per year. Long Island is sick.
That is ridiculous amount to pay a teacher, unless she had a Phd. Teachers and cops are paid with tax money, so they should cap salaries at $80,000 for seniority. This is why Wisconsin teacher union got busted.
I hate to get into online arguments, but this question is unbelievably stupid.
While I largely agree with what you are saying, this is not a US-specific problem so don't make it seem like our country inherently sucks. If you think Americans are lazy, take a trip through Europe and check out their 2 hour siestas and 10 weeks of paid vacation. Chinese and Indians are smart and industrious? Sure - but not the 90% that are still stuck in rice farming. Every country has a small intellectual elite, which is responsible for actual progress, while the rest just keep the wheels turning.
Some of the stupidity in this thread is mind-boggling. Firstly, the US national debt is not "approaching" European levels. It exceeds all but the worst examples of European profligacy. Secondly, we can get away with not repaying our debtors very easily without resorting to nuclear war; it is called inflation. Refer to the 1970s. Thirdly, the economic gain from repudiating the national debt would be massively outweighed by the loss from being cut off from any trade or economic activity with the rest of the world. There's a reason we nationalized the debt after the revolutionary war. Fourthly, while the US military could probably beat the rest of the armies of the world in a conventional war, given unrestricted ROE and surprise strikes, that would do nothing to stop unconventional warfare. Do you imagine those intelligent foreign entrepreneurs you speak so highly of could not figure out how to destroy New York City if you nuked Beijing? Or how to hack in to markets and banks around the world and bring the system to its knees? Somehow I doubt you'll be worrying very much about the national debt when the greenback is worthless and anarchy prevails.
You may be the dumbest person who has ever posted on this site. May God have mercy on your soul.
is mike = mike the situation 'cause he is just as retarded
There's a reason you work at a boutique. I can make more money than you by working as a construction worker and investing in LEAPS on undervalued assets.
Without giving the MD a rimjob...
Well I was expecting to get more monkeyshit thrown at me for this thread, but the situations I have proposed may very well be unethical, but do not disregard them just because of that. There are probably better and more practical scenarios that I did not state, but never underestimate the power of greed. I can foresee the United States pulling off a host of very unethical scenarios, if current trends continue. Don't forget, America is not used to being #2.
PS: A lot of people have put words in my mouth I did not put there. I never said nuking China, or anyone for that matter is a feasible option. I simply said the United States has the ability to do whatever they want to do on the economic and conventional warfare playing field, because of the deterrent of a tremendous conventional and nuclear military presence. Obviously going to war with China, EU, or Russia would result in a nuclear catastrophe. But manipulating the facts is bound to happen, when people hear words they do not like on an ethical and moral perspective. This has served as a valuable lesson to me. Never state your true intentions, if the general public is likely to disagree. Politics is starting to make a lot of sense. Actions that appear to be idiotic are often dictated by the powers that be. There is a method behind the madness.
With all the batshit idiotic ideas that I've seen on this site, you sir, take the fucking cake. You cannot have an IQ above 80.
How would a nation "pull" a person
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