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I dont suppose there is one definitive answer to this.

But my interpretation to this is where you started to where you end up - for example, some of you may know of Alan Sugar (he is the UK version of The Apprentice). He came from nothing, a rough council estate in London and built himself up into a multi million pound business (albeit not making very good goods, imho) but to me, that is success.

I know there are many people who say if you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth and become rich then that is not success, I tend to diagree because it still requires a certain amount of work but I think coming from less and achieving more is just a greater level of success.

In terms of banking, I think part success is just even breaking into banking (again can vary depending on your background) - that is what I am striving for at the moment.

And of course, the size of ones wallet will also determine your success!

Thoughts?

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  • illiniPride's picture

    Success = achieving your goals

    Leadership can be defined in two words: "Follow Me"

  • Human's picture

    "Being perfect is not about that scoreboard out there. It's not about winning. It's about you and your relationship with yourself, your family and your friends. Being perfect is about being able to look your friends in the eye and know that you didn't let them down because you told them the truth. And that truth is you did everything you could. There wasn't one more thing you could've done. Can you live in that moment as best you can, with clear eyes, and love in your heart, with joy in your heart? If you can do that gentleman - you're perfect!" ~ Coach Gary Gaines (Friday Night Lights, 2004)

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • design's picture

    I just want to be happy. At this point in my life, I'm still trying to figure out exactly what I have to do to get to that point, but I'm making good progress...I think...

  • WSOusername's picture

    success= being happy imo. most successful ppl = the happiest. so far in my life, ive put several things on the pedestal cuz i convinced myself that if i could get them it would make me happy. Everytime I do this, I sacrifice and bust my ass to get them only to realize they didn't do anything for me. The happiest ppl I've ever meet are those that dont give a shit about petty crap like what ppl think about them, how fat their wallet is, etc. This whole cycle has been extremely frustrating to me bcuz its like:
    1) decide something will make you happy and put it on the pedestal
    2) bust your ass and achieve what you wanted
    3) realize it didnt fulfill you
    4) become extremely frustrated bcuz not only did it not fulfill you, but the happiest ppl you see are those that DIDNT bust their asses. So you pretty much made all these sacrifices and shit to become happy only to realize that the ppl that are happier than you didnt even fukin do anything to do so.

    Imma cut this short b4 it turns into a rant, bust just in summary let yourself decide what will make you successful, not society. The second you start basing your life decisions off of what will make you better in other's eyes as opposed to your own, you become like the horse chasing the carrot on the stick.....you'll never get it

    GBS

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  • Short Bus All-Star's picture

    Without financial freedom, intellectual freedom is mostly an illusion.

    To a lesser extent, personal freedom is an illusion as well. One can voice their opinions behind closed doors (or behind an anonymous screen name), but sure enough, at 7am on Monday they all show up, regardless of whether they want to be there. This holds for just as many 500k jobs as it does 50k jobs.

    Serfs.

    What is success? Freedom from wage serfdom, or slavery, or whatever else you want to call it.

  • blackrainn's picture

    Understanding yourself. Understanding that there is only the present and that you will feel pain/hardship/torment in the future. It amazes me that humans have no concept of the future, we simply think of it as some "perfect" time. We don't think of the dishes that will have to be done, the dry cleaning that has to be taken out, etc. I look back on 2 years ago when I thought: "dang, once I get to _____ my life is going to be so sweet," never realizing that once I actually got to _____ there came a whole host of other issues.

    A successful life is a life of enjoying the moment, taking the day as it comes. As a society I think we have become so ingrained with this notion that we have to be perfectly blissful at every moment of our lives, that we can find the perfect girl who will complete us, and that our jobs have to give us utmost fulfillment. We never seem to understand that even for those who "have it all" with all of their houses, yachts, and sports teams, still have to deal with bullshit everyday, still have to put up with divorces, setbacks, and stress. No one in this world has it easy. (Although I think providing a basic economic level [around $35-60k/yr depending on the person] is very important for the healthy development of an individual).

    Also, I think optimism and happiness and thus contentment has been shown to be mostly genetic. Some of us think we are successful if we make $50,000 a year and live hang-gliding and driving rusty hondas, while some of us won't be content making $500,000,000 a year and driving our Lamborghinis around the track every Sunday. Success comes at a price, and that is a feeling of success. Without the drive to succeed, you will never have success, but with the drive to succeed, you will never feel successful.

  • kshu's picture

    Success = (P - N) / O

    where

    P: Positive externalities (i.e. own life's benefit to others)
    N: Negative externalities
    O: Opportunities given to you

    Implication: People who are given lots of opportunities need to increase their lifes' positive externalities (or decrease negative externalities) in order to keep their success ratio constant.

    [Since O is often mostly unknown, Success' = (P - N) is a useful simplification.)

    Positive externalities are generally things that increase other people's happiness, can be as diverse as:
    (a) monetary donations;
    (b) different types of work that improve other people's lifes;
    (c) sincere emotional involvement (e.g. spouse, family, friends, co-workers)
    (d) others

    People have different comparative advantages, so try to find out whether it's (a), (b), (c) or something else.

    This theory has evolved quite a lot over the last few years. I'd welcome more idea input.

    When utility becomes concave
    and outliers cease to be brave,
    think of the CAPM twist:
    that return grows as does risk.

  • WSOusername's picture

    ^leave it to WSO to have the question "how do you judge success" answered in a mathematical equation, lmao. love the theory though, fuk it ill even throw you an SB

    GBS

  • Human's picture

    Success is a very personal thing. Yes, what other people think of you is totally irrelevant. And if you do care what other people think of you, then these are not exactly the things that you want for yourself. There are four questions to ask yourself to see whether your motivation is genuine. 1) Am I willing to put the work in? 2) Why do I want this? 3) How far would I go? 4) Am I trying to impress someone? Food for thought: http://www.pluginid.com/how-badly-do-you-want-it/

    The only way you can achieve success is to first define what success is for you. Then take small steps every day to get to where you want to go. And success is not a destination, it is a journey. If you were too focused on getting there without enjoying what you learn, people that you met, and what you experience, the destination itself is pointless. I actually made a chart for myself which is similar to this one at: http://theibanker.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/w...

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • Ryan M's picture

    getting to the top of mazlows hierarchy of needs (self actualization).

  • bears1208's picture

    Finding a time where I am legitimately happy and content where i'm at (hint: this isn't likely to ever be achieved)

  • D M's picture

    The ultimate goal is to be happy. Some people try and make a lot of money so they can buy happiness, which doesn't seem to work all that well. Success = happiness. Now, if you have children, that changes. You no longer get the luxury o being happy. You have the responsibility to make sure your children grow up and have the opportunity to be happy. It's really pretty simple.

    "You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer
    "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee

  • ZHeyd7's picture

    For myself, success is achieving my own personal goals and being happy.

  • illiniPride's picture

    If happiness is a goal, success still = achieving goals.

    A related question is: What is your priority list? Is being happy today more important than being happy tomorrow? Would the ability to change the world be worth personal anguish? Do you place your the well being of your family above yourself?

    In short:
    Personal happiness has a position on your priority list. Your priority list determines your goals. Achieving goals makes you successful.

    Leadership can be defined in two words: "Follow Me"

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    Human's picture

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."