Hey, wanted to reach out and ask whether TCU or Indiana U (not the business school but economics major) is a better option for college. If I went to Indiana I would probably either try for the business school (really competitive) or stay economics and move through with a better GPA and try to get into the Trading workshop. Or I could go to TCU and most likely do much better GPA wise.
I know the placement for Indiana is very good but how is the placement for TCU. I know about Kyle Bass but have there been others that have made it into S&T or Hedge funds succesfully?
Let me know if you know anything about placement as I am having trouble finding any information on this
Indiana, not even close.
Lol. Kelley is very easy to get into. I think the GPA cutoff is like 3.3 and the Banking Workshop cutoff is 3.5
That school places 100% to GS, MS, Lazard, Perella, Moelis, etc, so you should go there.
100% placement to gs,ms,lazard,perella,moelis.... what are you talking about. it's definitely better than tcu, but that is just a straight up lie.
A more fair statement is that Kelley's IB workshop places pretty much everybody in investment banking who wants IBD. Just listing the top places is not true to an extent.
Source - my current boss who attended Kelley.
Also, pick Indiana hands down. My advice - major in something easy and minor in business/econ. Something I really wish I did. So much easier to have a high GPA. You can always join most any club, learn modeling on your own, and even take the CFA Level 1 (which is basically an entire undergrad business education.)
If you are positive that you can meet whatever requirements you need for Kelley's banking workshop (and maintain a 3.5+ GPA) than this is clearly ideal.
If you feel you may not be able to maintain a high GPA, than major in something easy and crush your GPA, and minor in business. I was always under the impression, through my junior year in college, that you need to major in Finance to break into IBD. It's simply not the case. Apply first to Kelley and see what happens.
Also, why is it Kelley vs. TCU?
If you are positive that you can meet whatever requirements you need for Kelley's banking workshop (and maintain a 3.5+ GPA) than this is clearly ideal.
If you feel you may not be able to maintain a high GPA, than major in something easy and crush your GPA, and minor in business. I was always under the impression, through my junior year in college, that you need to major in Finance to break into IBD. It's simply not the case. Apply first to Kelley and see what happens.
Also, why is it Kelley vs. TCU?[/quote] I applied to twenty colleges, TCU and Kelley happened to be my best options
The only thing i'm worried about is Finite math. I know for sure that I can do well in the other classes. I think I'll probably try to transfer credits in from my state school which is probably easier. The problem with doing a random major thats not business related is the fact that i'm not really interested by anything except business.
Thanks, that clears things up for me quite a bit. Was worried that IU would be way too hard after hearing horror stories about Finite math and one of the calc classes. I am not worried at all about any other classes but those stories are pretty scary.
IU hands down. And do not be worried about two classes. 6 credits will barely move your gpa when it's all said and done.
Indiana is by far the better choice, but it is very important to be in Kelley for the career services and networking opps. The program is really not that difficult to get into and the classes aren't that hard. If you're worried about the business program crushing your gpa, then there is no way you're making it into S&T. I mean, c'mon, you're afraid of Finite Math? That whole class is based upon probabilities and statistics which are a pretty big deal in S&T.
Let me clarify one aspect that other posters made very confusing. There are two workshops at IU - the Investment Management Workshop (IMW) and the Investment Banking Workshop (IBW). Sales and trading falls under the IMW side of things, whereas the IBW is obviously the banking side. Getting into either workshop is VERY competitive. BTBanker, for whatever reason, was talking about the IBW as far as the gpa cutoff and the high placements at Lazard, Perella, Moelis, etc. They are two totally different workshops. The IMW has very good placement everywhere from the bulge brackets, midmarkets, prop shops, research firms (gs, ms, barcap, c, jpm, rbs, bmo, group1, drw, chicago trading, isi, and so on).
Feel free to PM me and we can talk over phone or email to clarify since as typical of the internet, there is a ton of misinformation.
If you are worried about math is S&T really a good idea?
I will say that I know TCU is really picking up and Neeley has been sending more kids to IB over the past few years (mainly in Houston for energy, otherwise Dallas or Chicago jobs).
I went to TCU but grew up near IU...I will say that for S&T, TCU does not have a strong recruiting presence at all. If you wanted to do energy banking in Houston, there are plenty of TCU grads there. But I've been complaining for a while that they need to work on S&T recruiting, at least for energy trading. I know IU sends a lot of those IB workshop kids to banks, so I assume they have a recruiting presence in S&T as well for NYC and/or Chicago.
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