Deutsche Bank vs. Jefferies
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Unless you have a penchant for toll roads, I'd go with Jeff.
What the above poster said. If you have a strong interest in pub fin, go for it. Otherwise, from what I've seen, you may be stuck in that sector. BAML is pretty strong in that sector too, if that's something worth considering.
Would avoid BAML at all cost
Jefferies healthcare is beast
Don't know much about BAML but PF can be very interesting.
are you a fucking idiot?
Tell us more about how very well informed you are and don't need anyone to help you choose from all 3 offers you have, please.
this is a whole different story friend.
Jefferies
Would take Guggeheim over any of the offers you have. If I had to do it all over, I'd give up my BB gig for Guggeheim in an instant.
JEF HC is a top notch team, but it is far from GS/JPM/CS HC. Rest of JEF is average.
When I interviewed at JEF, I hated their culture. Seemed very robotic in nature and never reached out to me to see if I had any questions etc when I received my offer.
Some groups in BAML are very strong (LevFin/Sponsors) but outside of that, not so much. Very unstable and has been since ML acquisition. I would avoid at all cost.
and this. okay done lol.
Jefferies IB vs DB IB (Originally Posted: 03/05/2007)
I have two offers for the summer. One is a summer analyst position at Jefferies Broadview, and the other is a summer analyst position at Deutsche Bank. Both positions are in Boston. The offices are of similar size. Both offers are for their technology coverage groups. Exit opportunity/offer wise which is the better opportunity? Where will I have a better experience and the most exposure? Thanks in advance for any insight anyone may be able to offer.
JEF places pretty well in PE. All my friends that work there all got buyside jobs at pretty reputable firms.
They also have this new thing that if you are top bucket both of your first years you can skip your third year and become an associate after only two years. Pretty boss.
DB is almost on par w/ the BB, Jeffries gets shit on by the BB and they know it, go to DB
DB, hands down.
DB, no comparison
First there's the GS ER or DB IB thread. Now this. As they say, LMFAO.
Every offense meant, kid, I think DB really needs to get recruiting standards checked.
Haha, read the latest leveraged sellout blog post. You would kinda get the point on how most people feel.
Unless you have some desire to do MM deals...on a side note I'm not sure about the prestige of any bank that needs to do online advertising of their M&A/LFG teams.
Jefferies, because their prestige is overwhelming. Most goldman bankers are still kicking themselves for not being accepted at Jeff.
I'm really looking for what will be the best for me in the long term. Since DB is bigger will I get to see a more diverse array of deals? I guess I'm just trying to gauge why everyone has said no comparison, go DB?
Don't think of it as prestige. There is a lot of competition for good exit opps and your group/firm name can be used for screening/signaling (to use an econ term).
um... DB, obviously.
From the ghetto...
Just go to Jefferies. DB is stuck in the middle of nowhere. It's not a BB (it's too shit). Yet it's not MM because of the size of its deals. It just plain sucks.
because Broadview blows and treats their employees 2nd class to Jefferies bankers. DB Tech is definitely better in that regard. However, if you had Jefferies in NYC, I'd recommend it. They have some bright people and work on lot of MM deals. They're not BB (neither is DB really), but they are respected in MM space.
My impression of a majority of the people on this site:
"Jefferies is a fucking toilet, don't go there unless you want to be a joke. Gawd, if you don't work at GS or MS M&A or another top group like UBS LA you don't deserve to live."-Undergrad Student X who hasn't had a job or interview yet.
At the end of the day, neither of these are that DRASTICALLY different. All the people I've met at both firms seemed pretty cool and I dunno about DB to a great extent, but Jefferies seems to have pretty hefty deal flow. But, don't feel like this is a life or death decision. The only people who would judge your decision are assholes on an anonymous message board and a couple of insecure dudes in reality.
HAHAHAHA. Hilarious. Can these type of threads please end? You really shouldn't be making life decisions based on the opinions of this board.
Well said.
I interviewed with the guys from Jefferies, and they were some of the most laid back and fun bankers I've met. Much cooler than the GS/MS guys that came to campus. I had a buddy of mine intern there and he was traveling to clients all the time. Both places I'm sure will give you a great summer experience.
I agree with TexasIB, Jefferies has a really fun culture and all of the guys I met when I interviewed there were badass. I would have loved to work there and was about ready to sign, but I realized the cachet of working on Fortune 100 deals was too important to pass up to go advise some bumblefuck CEO in Kansas on what to do with his $20M revenue business.
Jefferies gets a bad rap around here, and I think it would be a valuable experience, but definitely not on par with other places for post-analyst placement.
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BAML is a beast in P.F sector. I would say go with BAML so maybe a year later you can lateral into regular banking. Is this NYC?
WHAT?
he already has regular banking offers.
lol, I just had only read the title not the entire thread. I thought he was talking about Jefferies P.F and so forth. Take Jefferies.
How does Deutsche Bank stack up against these guys? Better than Jefferies?
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