2018 Republicans vs Democrats POLL
After reading about the taxes on bonus thread, I am now curious about the political breakdown of users on WSO, and I'm sure you are too, so I'm making a quick, anonymous and simple poll. Please vote and fill out as best as you can regardless of your opinion of the current administration.
Silver Banana on this post if:
-You're a straight up Republican
-You fall more on Conservative spectrum
-You're one of those "I'm fiscally conservative, but now since its 2018, I've decided to become socially liberal so people don't hate me" types of people.
Monkey Sh-t on this post if:
-You're a Liberal and you're proud
-You fall more on the Liberal spectrum
-You want higher taxes for yourself and for your fellow bankers for the rest of your lives
And for you international students out there:
Vote silver banana if you're a socialist
Vote monkey sh-t if you're a communist
I am international and I love capitalism.
Genuinely curious too, but admit it OP, you structured this post to capitalize on people's curiosity to feed yourself silver bananas, you greedy ape.
...Posts like this are why the Brofessor left.
Interesting results
Not really sure where I stand because I'm a pretty average eat, sleep, DCF, drink type of banker that hates paying taxes but I also love ramming it in a gay dude's ass every now and again. Ain't nothing like it. Thing is, I kinda hate gay people, or rather the "LGBTQ+" persona that the mainstream media has created. I just like ramming it up other dude's asses, fuck all that rainbow shit.
My point is, I'm drunk.
We've all had a MD ram it in our ass since July, nothing gay about wanting to pay it forward.
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Honestly, I'm the most normal dude ever. I just love man-ass. I'm a booty goon bro. I chase ass with the best of them and I can outdrink 10/10 bankers I work with. I get the most vag too. I don't even like vag but I get more of it than you. What I'm really all about is man ass, I can't get enough of that shit. I came out senior year of high school after I piped out the homecoming queen. Not because I couldn't stand living a lie, but strictly because I wanted to make that statement. Yeah, I can pipe out your dream girl, and I'm still gonna kick her to the curb the next day in favor of some male cheeks. Issss Cheek Bussin' season boiiiiii.
SB
That said I don't think things are going to go well for the R's in the mid-terms.
Depends. Likely gain in the Senate, with a retiring Supreme Court Justice. Good scenario in my mind.
SB, obviously.
It seems like WSO leans conservative on fiscal and economic issues and socially more liberal (e.g. pro choice, pro gay marriage, not that religious).
I do wonder where WSO stands on immigration, as that issue straddles national security, economics, cultural, and social.
Republicans vs. Democrats (Originally Posted: 11/07/2010)
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Republicans aren't small government. They spend tons of money on defense, useless security measures (which have been proven to only increase PERCEPTION of safety not actual safety), etc. that cost way more than the welfare state people complain about. I come from an actual communist country, so I know how horrible socialism and communism is, so people should get their facts straight before calling our president a Socialist Muslim
Not to mention they want to tell the average American they CAN'T marry if they're gay, can't smoke weed, can't have a religion outside of Christianity, etc. Check the facts above before listening to Fox News and the shit they spin.
Love, Moderate libertarian
There used to be a name for this. It was "Rockefeller Republican." After Gov. Nelson Rockefeller. Unfortunately they appear to be an extinct species these days, as even Lloyd and Jamie are going "WTF" at the R's.
I personally Identify as a Rockefeller Republican, but I have a difficult time voting for a populist, nationalist candidate like Trump. I think he has more in common with Hugo Chavez than Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Rockefeller Republicans were definitely not fiscally conservative; they were pretty liberal in nearly all policy areas. Rockefeller is closer to Obama and Hillary than he is to Reagan.
As your last sentence comparing Trump to Chavez, you win the award for the hyperbole of the day.
thank you for this pointless drivel.
I saw a ton of political posts lately so wanted to contribute my own two cents -- it seems like people are downvoting great ideas just because they disagree with the party, I would accept any Republican idea if it was a good one and reject any Democrat idea if it sucked.
Bet this post is gonna get downvoted too by right-wing partisans who accuse Obama of being partisan while they're the ones who vote party line 100% of the time
1) You have every right to post political things here.
2) Who is calling him a socialist muslim? I think he strongly wants to move us more socialistic and is feeding off (or was feeding off) populace sentiment that is anti capitalistic. This always happens when people are out of work so it doesn't really bother me.
3) I could careless if he is a Muslim. I will never understand why religion plays such a huge part of the presidential election. We don't elect Catholics either (JFK the exception).
4) It is useless security until something happens. I am sorry, but I agree with security checks at the airport. You get pat down or walk through a scanner. Big deal. Planes are a continual target for wacko's regardless of their motivation. This country also suffered a huge terrorist strike involving planes so pardon our sensitivity.
5) Yes, we spend a lot on defense. I wish we did not have to. Please write every nation in the world that has been slashing their military budget while still wanting peace and security.
The USA in recent history has kicked Saddam out of Kuwait, stopped the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo (when the Europeans couldn't do it themselves), kicked the human rights violators (aka Taliban) out of power and eliminated a genocidal dictator and his cruel sons. We keep North Korea from making the South a shit hole like the north and we seem to be the only ones raising a stink about Iran and their nuclear program.
Regan saw such a huge spending increase because of the USSR. I am not going to make excuses for Bush. Republicans moved away from their ideals and hopefully that will be corrected now.
Gay Unions are slowly being permitted and besides, it is a states right issue. It is not as if the USA is the only country slow in adopting this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union
6) Where is the Republican party trying to pass legislation saying you can only be Christian? Completely worthless comment on your part.
7) Smoking pot is being decriminalized. Prop 19 failed because THE PEOPLE voted it down. Sounds like Democracy in action.
I am very happy that after coming from a Communist country you now are enjoying your right to free speech.
I find it funny how you think defense spending is a waste now that the USA has taken down the largest communist nation. So generous of you.
We are using 2 billion dollar B-2 bombers designed for deep-penetration nuclear strikes into Soviet airspace to bomb backwards goat-herders. Defense spending (per capita) is higher now than any time after the Vietnam conflict.
Terrorists and rogue states are dangerous, but they do not necessitate more defense spending than the Soviet Union did in the 70s to collapse. It's time for a smarter, leaner and cheaper defense department.
Republicans want to cut your taxes.
Democrats want to increase social spending.
Nobody wants to fix the deficit problem.
Welcome back. Great post and pretty much sums it up perfectly.
Lets not forget the US military helping out in Haiti.
Another example of the evil USA wasting money in their useless military.
Saying that the Republicans are trying to ban all other religions besides Christianity is one of the dumbest things I've ever read or heard ever. Just for a comment that stupid you should be banned--from this website and from speaking in general. As they said in Billy Madison: "We are all dumber for having listened to you."
"Useless" security???
It amazes me how clueless some people are. There are people in this world that would like to do nothing more than blow up our entire country. The best possible security measure is the one the public never hears about because there is no news to report. There have been ZERO successful terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11 (thank God). Do you think that's bc of lack of effort by the terrorists? Do you think the public hears about every single terrorist plot that is foiled? Do you even read the news? The fact that this last attack came so close should only go to show that we need MORE security. These measures only seem pointless bc terrorists are having to go through complicated means of attacking us now, instead of just carrying guns/bombs on a plane.
You, sir, are an idiot. If you were in charge, I cannot imagine how many Americans would be dead.
Si Vis Pacem Parabellum dude...look it up its been true since the Romans
I noticed your bro hating post and you are such GDI hipster piece of shit. You would think spending money on the defense of America is a waste of money. I say our new line of defense be these Oberlin types bent over gaping assholes waiting for Hezbollah or whatever. Go work for Monitor or some flowery bullshit and take a lap on the way there.
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Epic post bro. Love it!
We should also note that national defense is one of the few legitimate roles of government under our constitutional system. Last I checked, a massive intervention in health insurance markets, medicare, and social security are not. Since all these things are on the verge of insolvency, maybe it's a good time to return to doing just the things government is actually sanctioned to do. Let the people who paid into these programs get their benefits, and then dismantle the damn things.
I know it's a radical idea, but maybe it's time for people to take responsibility for saving for their own retirement and their own healthcare in old age. Everyone wants subsidized this, subsidized that. This entitlement mentality needs to go. It's literally crippling our economy.
Your post could not be more on point.
It's only radical because of how far our politicians have moved away from the Constitution. Excellent post by the way.
Sorry.
Please go back to your communist country.
We are obviously not spending enough on our National security as millions of illegal immigrants like you are rushing our boarders freely everyday.
Our country or government has been going in the wrong direction, this is true, but let us hope that the recent election is a sign that America has awakened and that Republicans have returned to their values.
no one here gives a true fuck about small government. the only thing they are worried about is their taxes, so they vote republican. IBSlave thats a mis-allocation of resources not an indication we need to spend more... what a ridiculous comment. I also have no idea why you had to take a personal shot at someone, this is not yahoo boards, I thought posters on here were supposed to be intelligent.
Thank you for enlightening me about allocating resources and let us not over-analyze my snide remark. I obviously am not a proponent of additional spending. The problem is a combination of mis-allocating resources and our gov neglecting to enforce laws that were put in place for politically charged reasons. Se the link below - it may give you a better understanding of my comment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke
Anyone see Rick Perry on Jon Stewart last night?
Interesting discussion, make sure to watch the televised portion before the extended part online..
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Republican vs. Democrat Tax Cuts (Originally Posted: 11/08/2010)
People here are the Rupert Pupkins of Finance. They dream big and hope to become the next star trader, PE partner or banking head. And their political leanings reflect not their current level in society, but the one they hope to achieve one day. Consequently most of you are republican, for the main reason (or only reason) of tax cuts- (supposedly- this is highly debateable based on republican track records) made possible through smaller government.
Thus I would like you to focus on the attached graph. The left was Obama's tax plan in early 2010. The right is a continuation of Bush's tax plan. The current most likely reality post-midterm elections is something similar to the plan on the right with the bubble for the $1M crowd being 1.5-2x bigger. Who among you believes they will make $1M+inflation in the future?
Expected Response: "It's not about me saving on taxes, it's about the very rich deserving to keep more of their money because they earned it." How did they earn it? Were they born with the same opportunities and luck but just honsetly worked their way to the very top? If they work in finance/energy- what's the likelihood they could have made something similar (and taxed less) in another country- in another Government? If they are Christian, do they deserve lower taxes that deny help to the poorest of their fellow citizens? Lastly.... do you really think the Koch brothers need your help, you poor fucking loser? :)
Seigniorage,
First, hat tip for the Rupert Pupkin reference. You're either a true De Niro fan, or you're my age (or both). I doubt too many of our fellow monkey's are going to get it.
You bring up an interesting point, and one that I think about a lot. I think people do tend to vote their expectations rather than their reality, no matter how statistically unrealistic those expectations may be.
Here's where it comes down to how you were raised and what your personal belief system is. You either believe that everything is on the level, that anyone can achieve anything they set out to with enough hard work, and that to punish people for success is wrong. Or, you believe that the game is rigged, that you can really only go so far in life before you'll hit the barriers constructed by the wealthy to keep you out, and therefore government is the great equalizer and should rob from the rich to give to the poor. I suppose there's a third option as well, and it's been my guiding principle through the years, though I can't recommend it for everyone. Namely, that the second option is reality, that the game is rigged and the rich want nothing more than to take from the poor, but that I personally am smart and ruthless enough to cheat my way to the top, and therefore have no interest in paying taxes.
What I think you have to accept is that government is on the side of the wealthy (even though, like Obama, they often appear to be on the side of the poor). If voters don't do everything they can to restrict taxation, we'll be facing a redistributionist nightmare - though not the nightmare the Tea Party rails about. If the government is left to tax unchecked, every penny of our country's wealth will be in the hands of the richest 1% within a generation.
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