WTF? Microsoft Buys Skype for $8.5 Billion. That would be 5B more than ebay's flop of a buy.
It was sold by ebay in 2009 for 1.2B. This is so confusing. Tech bubble?
It was sold by ebay in 2009 for 1.2B. This is so confusing. Tech bubble?
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I think this is a play to take market share from Google...or at least keep them from gaining it. FB and Google were looking to buy Skype, FB likely would integrate it into FB (duh) and Google would have used it to generate more cash through in window adverts.
I would have preferred either FB or Google to win over Microsoft, but it is what it is.
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Microsoft is to the tech/business world what Third Eye Blind is to music: a bunch of washed out 90's has beens. They had three big hit songs in the 90's (Windows, Office, Xbox), so everyone knows who they are. No one wants to hear their new music (in the case of Third Eye Blind) or buy their new products (Do you even care that they stopped producing Zune).
As for this deal, its the equivalent of Third Eye Blind covering a Kid Cudi song; sure, Cudi is hip, but it just doesn't work with Third Eye Blind covering it.
Honestly, Microsoft is toast. CPH, your wish will be fulfilled when FB buys them in a few years (Did I just go there?!). Microsoft's problem is political in nature: Windows is such a powerful division in there company that nothing can be done without getting approval from Windows management. Office could be sold on every smart phone, but the Windows people only want it sold on Windows 7 platform. Microsoft has missed out on an entire technology cycle (mobile), and is playing catch up by trying to buy Skype, which isn't even a profitable company.
I'd be bullish on Microsoft if they split the company into different groups. Windows, Office, and XBox are all successful products, and as separate companies they would be worth a lot more than they are mashed together.
Your statement that you cant get office on anything but a windows phone is just not true. There is an office app for android.
It always makes me laugh when haters try to explain why MSFT is the worst company ever while they still use their products every fucking day.
What's your point? Sure, I use their products, but that doesn't mean I don't think that their stock will perform well over the next decade (because it has done so well over the last decade). Everyone used Kodak products 15 years ago, and abandoned them when they refused to go digital. Microsoft is two steps behind the curve just like Kodak; they are struggling to keep things the way they are when the world is clearly going in a different direction.
Although MSFT significantly overpaid for Skype I think the deal has some merits. First, there are some interesting synergies with some of MSFT's other divisions/products...Kinect, Xbox Live, Lync (for enterprise), Windows Live Messenger, Windows Phone 7, Windows, Bing, etc. Second, it seems like a decent defensive play against Google and Apple in mobile particularly around video chat. Lastly, all of these major companies are trying to compete with FB to build out robust social signals...Skype has a 500M+ user base with significant amount of time spend and via Skype's APIs MSFT may be able to get nice social data as across the web (similar to FB Connect) as users use Skype's click-to-call feature across the web (i.e. if you have skype running in the background of your PC then it enables CTC on any phone number that shows up on any website - similar to FB's Like feature functionality).
All in all, I think its a decent deal EXCEPT for the ridiculous price paid. If MSFT had paid less than $4B then I would be saying that the deal is a slam dunk.
one thing is for sure. Silver Lake killed it. now we know why GS is numero 1 - they made MSFT pay 8.5bn for the business. it's a crazy number. Financially doesnt make any sense but strategic wise in terms of MSFT vs Google vs. Facebook maybe.
watch for Facebook to take out Vonage... you heard it here first folks.
Why would FB do that when they can more easily integrate with Skype given their relationship with MSFT?
FB has a pretty good relationship with Vonage. I was at VG HQ (non banking related) about a month ago and they got a facebook room. Just a hunch. Haven't heard anyone say it on the street. Let's wait and see if I am right.
I think the bigger story here is: ZOMG a sell-side mega-deal that wasn't advised by Qatalyst!?!?!
Maybe MSFT should have hired a financial advisor to value Skype and they would have come up with a more reasonable price. Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan sure worked wonders for Skype and the venture capitalists, who just 2 years ago bought the company at less than a third of the price MSFT is offering.
how do you think they came up with the 8bil number?
cost of capital of 1%? that's impossible-risk free rate alone is 3-4%. I think they justified it based on optimistic synergies + growth projections, rather than by adopting a lower cost of capital.
I'm not sure if MSFT used a financial advisor on the deal or not...generally these large tech companies have large corpdev teams that do most of the work, that said, on some of these larger deals ($5B+) they will also engage with an independent financial advisor to validate some of the internal corpdev work.
I think the price is more reflective of the fact that MSFT has a hard time winning deals against GOOG and had to come in significantly higher than GOOG's rumored $4B bid to get Skype onboard...and they justified it internally by modelling a ridiculous amount of synergies that in all reality they won't be able to execute on.
They didn't use an advisor, they used an in-house team.
Advisors to Skype were GS and JPM.
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11112722/1/jpmorgan-goldman-dial-in-skyp…
Exactly. They just needed to win the deal, so they went all in.
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JPM TMT killing it? AT&T-Mobile and now Skype...
Pretty interesting deal. I doubt MSFT will be able to capitalize on all the synergies they're thinking about, but I'd like to see where they take this. Sounds like they want to go hard with multimedia, and this is a crucial step to realizing that.
Hey I have a question concerning the division of labor on such a deal. Both JPM and GS are advising Skype. Does everybody value the company on their own and the board then takes a look at both and makes a decision, or do the advisors work closely together and everybody specializes. I mean in this case it was only 2 banks, but you sometimes read that 4 banks are advising one client. Are they all paid the same fees. Or is one superior to another?
It depends on what role the particular bank is playing. Read the fall of RJR Nabisco to get an idea of how fee negotiations happen when you have more than one bank advising a client
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/05/10/ranking-the-skype-acquisition/
looking back at these acquisitions, how many were actually good?
Bump actually, good question that I've wondered before too
The vast majority of MSFT's $40 billion+ in cash is held overseas to avoid taxes upon repatriation. They probably financed this with debt because it's so cheap for them. Also, their primary banker is Morgan Stanley's west coast tech office (SF or Menlo Park I don't remember where they're actually located).
GS advised on this deal?
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