3/24/11

This time over spaghetti. Seriously. Who the fuck eats on the subway?

Comments (105)

3/24/11

"what kinda fat bitch looks like you?" -- quoteworthy

3/24/11

Eddie scooped by the DrudgeReport. :(

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

3/24/11

I feel dirty just chewing gum there, like it would pick up the toxins the way it does in lab. However, since there are dirty fucking people, I'm thinking there's a niche for subway hotdog stands.

Rat w/ mustard, anyone?

Get busy living

3/24/11

I wonder what happened before the video came on.

it looks like the chick eating on the subway was mouthing off to the guy who ends up trying to break the fight up.

3/24/11
Nobama88:

I wonder what happened before the video came on.

it looks like the chick eating on the subway was mouthing off to the guy who ends up trying to break the fight up.

I think you're right.

Black reaction video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqEeLrZzwmk&NR=1

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3/24/11
Ske7ch:
Nobama88:

I wonder what happened before the video came on.

it looks like the chick eating on the subway was mouthing off to the guy who ends up trying to break the fight up.

I think you're right.

Black reaction video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqEeLrZzwmk&NR=1

Always such intelligent responses.

3/27/11
Ske7ch:
Nobama88:

I wonder what happened before the video came on.

it looks like the chick eating on the subway was mouthing off to the guy who ends up trying to break the fight up.

I think you're right.

Black reaction video:

Hahahahahahha....his conclusion is : eating anywhere is not a black thing, is not a white thing, is not a italian thing, it's a NJ thing....hahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqEeLrZzwmk&NR=1

Do what you want not what you can!

3/24/11

I dont get it when I was 20 interning I use to crush slices of pizza late night on the way home and not think twice about it-- guess its a black thing haha oh well. But seriously if you ever worked in a casual dining restaurant you have most likely served dirty (less than clean) food to the four top sitting in the booth.

3/24/11

I put back some Mickey Ds on the subway every once in a while. The disgusted looks people give me are priceless.

3/24/11
GoodBread:

I put back some Mickey Ds on the subway every once in a while. The disgusted looks people give me are priceless.

Hahaha, actually, yeah, Ive done this. After a night of boozing my attitude was:

I'm eating a radioactive, fake meat, fattening, delicious McFatty burger. Do you think I care about health at this moment? Keep staring, you're jealous

Get busy living

3/24/11

So that's why I get all those funny looks on the PATH train when I'm sipping my 24-oz PBR. ;-)

3/24/11

"SHE GROWN. WHY CAN'T SHE JUST HANDLE HERSELF." Honestly, hoodrats. shudder

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3/24/11

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

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3/25/11
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 of the threads in which he posts, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

3/25/11

Anyway, the video is pretty funny.

3/25/11
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3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

First off, these women in these videos are representative of women in black culture to those who see them, just as men in rap videos are representative to people who see them. There is no denying that. I agree that sweeping generalizations are wrong and unjust for all parties there is some truth to most stereotypes.. if that wasn't true it wouldn't be said. Also you generalized just as I did "I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way." Generalization that my views are representative of the views of all minority men... Lastly I love being black, wouldn't want to be anything else.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

First off, these women in these videos are representative of women in black culture to those who see them, just as men in rap videos are representative to people who see them. There is no denying that. I agree that sweeping generalizations are wrong and unjust for all parties there is some truth to most stereotypes.. if that wasn't true it wouldn't be said. Also you generalized just as I did "I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way." Generalization that my views are representative of the views of all minority men... Lastly I love being black, wouldn't want to be anything else.

Wow. So you really do believe in the "truth" behind the stereotypes. Oh well. No skin off my back. Me and the rest of the minority women on Wall Street, in corporate law, acting, modeling, etc...you know, "SAVAGES", will just have to survive without you. Don't let me catch you on the subway though, me and my friend just might BEAT YOU UP lol.

Best of luck to you good sir.

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

First off, these women in these videos are representative of women in black culture to those who see them, just as men in rap videos are representative to people who see them. There is no denying that. I agree that sweeping generalizations are wrong and unjust for all parties there is some truth to most stereotypes.. if that wasn't true it wouldn't be said. Also you generalized just as I did "I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way." Generalization that my views are representative of the views of all minority men... Lastly I love being black, wouldn't want to be anything else.

Wow. So you really do believe in the "truth" behind the stereotypes. Oh well. No skin off my back. Me and the rest of the minority women on Wall Street, in corporate law, acting, modeling, etc...you know, "SAVAGES", will just have to survive without you. Don't let me catch you on the subway though, me and my friend just might BEAT YOU UP lol.

Best of luck to you good sir.

Savages was in reference to anyone who acts like this(see:anyone who fights in public places) You can't tell me there there is ZERO truth behind stereotypes. i have nothing against black women who are upstanding members of society just like I have nothing against black men who are upstanding members of society. I have a serious problem with people who fuel the stereotypes. (see:above video). I do not wish to argue about this here if you'd like we can discuss this via PM.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

First off, these women in these videos are representative of women in black culture to those who see them, just as men in rap videos are representative to people who see them. There is no denying that. I agree that sweeping generalizations are wrong and unjust for all parties there is some truth to most stereotypes.. if that wasn't true it wouldn't be said. Also you generalized just as I did "I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way." Generalization that my views are representative of the views of all minority men... Lastly I love being black, wouldn't want to be anything else.

Wow. So you really do believe in the "truth" behind the stereotypes. Oh well. No skin off my back. Me and the rest of the minority women on Wall Street, in corporate law, acting, modeling, etc...you know, "SAVAGES", will just have to survive without you. Don't let me catch you on the subway though, me and my friend just might BEAT YOU UP lol.

Best of luck to you good sir.

Savages was in reference to anyone who acts like this(see:anyone who fights in public places) You can't tell me there there is ZERO truth behind stereotypes. i have nothing against black women who are upstanding members of society just like I have nothing against black men who are upstanding members of society. I have a serious problem with people who fuel the stereotypes. (see:above video). I do not wish to argue about this here if you'd like we can discuss this via PM.

From what you've written on here, I think I understand your views pretty clearly. No need for PMs. Once again, no hard feelings from this lady. Best of luck in all your endeavors =)

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

First off, these women in these videos are representative of women in black culture to those who see them, just as men in rap videos are representative to people who see them. There is no denying that. I agree that sweeping generalizations are wrong and unjust for all parties there is some truth to most stereotypes.. if that wasn't true it wouldn't be said. Also you generalized just as I did "I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way." Generalization that my views are representative of the views of all minority men... Lastly I love being black, wouldn't want to be anything else.

Wow. So you really do believe in the "truth" behind the stereotypes. Oh well. No skin off my back. Me and the rest of the minority women on Wall Street, in corporate law, acting, modeling, etc...you know, "SAVAGES", will just have to survive without you. Don't let me catch you on the subway though, me and my friend just might BEAT YOU UP lol.

Best of luck to you good sir.

Savages was in reference to anyone who acts like this(see:anyone who fights in public places) You can't tell me there there is ZERO truth behind stereotypes. i have nothing against black women who are upstanding members of society just like I have nothing against black men who are upstanding members of society. I have a serious problem with people who fuel the stereotypes. (see:above video). I do not wish to argue about this here if you'd like we can discuss this via PM.

From what you've written on here, I think I understand your views pretty clearly. No need for PMs. Once again, no hard feelings from this lady. Best of luck in all your endeavors =)

As I wish you the same in all of yours.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199805/whe...

Kind of old but applies none the less

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

What racism do you or "minorities" face? Seriously, shut the fuck up with the racism bullshit. People like you who keep bringing the bogus and dated racist card are the ones who are keeping yourself down.

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

"Their own women"...? What does this mean?

3/25/11
Clarkey:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

"Their own women"...? What does this mean?

Meaning women of their own race. Poorly worded. My apologies.

3/28/11
love.live.life:
Clarkey:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

Generalize, or talk about first hand experience......

Generalize. You have not met every black woman, nor have you met a majority or even a large sample of Black women. It's not possible. If you want to talk about the women in your family, or the women in your school, girls you have dated, that's fine. But don't talk about "black women" as a whole.

As a minority woman who goes to a good school and is going to work for a reputable Wall Street firm, I find it disgusting that minority men label their own women this way. It's bad enough that minorities face discrimination from outside the race. When you who are a SO CALLED proud black man begins to steryotype, its just a shame.

"Their own women"...? What does this mean?

Meaning women of their own race. Poorly worded. My apologies.

On the contrary, I think it's revealing. You're full of shit.

3/30/11
Clarkey:

On the contrary, I think it's revealing. You're full of shit.

I'm glad you've judged my character based on one sentence out of the however many I've written on this post lol. That's cool though. You are entitled to your opinion :)

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 of the threads in which he posts, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:

Savages. Always looking to beat someone up, can't just have a fair fight the friend always has to jump in.... and black women wonder why black men act the way they do....

Wow, "blackfinancier", for someone who is so eager to advertise his race not only in his name, but in 3/4 threads, I find it interesting that you of all people would be the first to generalize this as the behavior of black women. I think that's worth some monkey sh*t, but I'm not familiar with the site to not too sure how to do that.

3/24/11

Unfortunately this one doesn't culminate in a fight, just a guy going crazy, lol...

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/27/11
cphbravo96:

Unfortunately this one doesn't culminate in a fight, just a guy going crazy, lol...

Regards

That's a local 7 train - so weird seeing it online as it's in Queens of all places, and I take it every day.

3/24/11

the guy who dances through at 3:15 was great

3/24/11

Oh, this little gem just appeared on the internet today...

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/25/11
cphbravo96:

Oh, this little gem just appeared on the internet today...

Regards

Clearly, this chick didn't get as much dong as she had anticipated over Spring Break.

3/25/11
Clarkey:
cphbravo96:

Oh, this little gem just appeared on the internet today...

Regards

Clearly, this chick didn't get as much dong as she had anticipated over Spring Break.

It's because she's too classy.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

3/24/11

Glad to know I'm not the only drudge follower.

3/24/11
ANT:

Glad to know I'm not the only drudge follower.

ANT, is there anything else worth following?!? LOL.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/24/11
3/24/11

I'm seeing a common theme...

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

3/24/11

Black people...I shake my head at my race.

Edit: Black women I knew there was a reason I stayed away.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/24/11
blackfinancier:

Black people...I shake my head at my race.

Edit: Black women I knew there was a reason I stayed away.

"All the good blake menz is taken by skurny white bitches. Whatever...I'm fin to eat my noodles and go home annewayz"

...I wonder why?!?!

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/24/11
cphbravo96:
blackfinancier:

Black people...I shake my head at my race.

Edit: Black women I knew there was a reason I stayed away.

"All the good blake menz is taken by skurny white bitches. Whatever...I'm fin to eat my noodles and go home annewayz"

...I wonder why?!?!

Regards

You have no idea unless you black its absolutely ridiculous, the things black women say

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/24/11
blackfinancier:
cphbravo96:
blackfinancier:

Black people...I shake my head at my race.

Edit: Black women I knew there was a reason I stayed away.

"All the good blake menz is taken by skurny white bitches. Whatever...I'm fin to eat my noodles and go home annewayz"

...I wonder why?!?!

Regards

You have no idea unless you black its absolutely ridiculous, the things black women say

I've dealt with plenty, so I have a good understand of the ridiculousness they can come up with and it's quite sad. Plus I've watch an episode of Tyra (sp?) which was title something like, "Where have all the (good?) black men gone" or something like that. It was rather interesting to watch (though I hate to admit I've watch her show).

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/24/11

^^Bravo are you a URM?

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/24/11
blackfinancier:

^^Bravo are you a URM?

Since I don't know what that is, I am likely not one...but could be...again, I don't know what it is, lol.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/24/11
cphbravo96:
blackfinancier:

^^Bravo are you a URM?

Since I don't know what that is, I am likely not one...but could be...again, I don't know what it is, lol.

Regards

under represented Minority

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/24/11
blackfinancier:
cphbravo96:
blackfinancier:

^^Bravo are you a URM?

Since I don't know what that is, I am likely not one...but could be...again, I don't know what it is, lol.

Regards

under represented Minority

You would.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

3/24/11
happypantsmcgee:
blackfinancier:
cphbravo96:
blackfinancier:

^^Bravo are you a URM?

Since I don't know what that is, I am likely not one...but could be...again, I don't know what it is, lol.

Regards

under represented Minority

You would.

Would what...ha

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11
blackfinancier:
cphbravo96:
blackfinancier:

^^Bravo are you a URM?

Since I don't know what that is, I am likely not one...but could be...again, I don't know what it is, lol.

Regards

under represented Minority

Well, I am white, I'm a male and I live in Atlanta...so yes, I am a URM, lol.

blackfinancier...please ignore love.live.life. It's refreshing to have an (seemingly) intelligent successful black male speak out against the people that drive the generally accepted stereotypes (whether right or wrong) about his race. Most of the members here are all smart enough not to peg everyone that belongs to a particular race to the negative stereotypes they've experienced or witnessed, but there is no denying that there is a whole lot of truth behind many of them. You are exactly what the black community needs, outspoken members that condemn the behavior of others (particularly the youth), whether it's because of the unacceptable actions of some or the support of and inaction by others to stop or amend that behavior.

love.live.life, how can you disapprove of stereotyping people for the well publicized behavior of many of them and essentially claim you and your friends aren't any of the savages from that group but then speak collectively about being discriminated against as a race? I surely hope you aren't receiving any sort of financial assistance for being either a female or a (racial) minority, nor do I hope your college applications were reviewed in a different manner than that of a white male applicant.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/25/11
cphbravo96:

You are exactly what the black community needs, outspoken members that condemn the behavior of others (particularly the youth), whether it's because of the unacceptable actions of some or the support of and inaction by others to stop or amend that behavior.

Yes, never apologize for your race. I'm Irish and we like to drink and party - fuck anyone who has a problem with us. And if you used EOF / AAction then so be it. Most of the kids on this site come from at least middle class, and the these systems were created to help level the playing field.....they won't be there forever, so take advantage of them now.

For what it's worth, I'm white as hell and can't stand white women [I like Chinese food]

Get busy living

3/25/11
cphbravo96:
blackfinancier:
cphbravo96:
blackfinancier:

^^Bravo are you a URM?

Since I don't know what that is, I am likely not one...but could be...again, I don't know what it is, lol.

Regards

under represented Minority

Well, I am white, I'm a male and I live in Atlanta...so yes, I am a URM, lol.

blackfinancier...please ignore love.live.life. It's refreshing to have an (seemingly) intelligent successful black male speak out against the people that drive the generally accepted stereotypes (whether right or wrong) about his race. Most of the members here are all smart enough not to peg everyone that belongs to a particular race to the negative stereotypes they've experienced or witnessed, but there is no denying that there is a whole lot of truth behind many of them. You are exactly what the black community needs, outspoken members that condemn the behavior of others (particularly the youth), whether it's because of the unacceptable actions of some or the support of and inaction by others to stop or amend that behavior.

love.live.life, how can you disapprove of stereotyping people for the well publicized behavior of many of them and essentially claim you and your friends aren't any of the savages from that group but then speak collectively about being discriminated against as a race? I surely hope you aren't receiving any sort of financial assistance for being either a female or a (racial) minority, nor do I hope your college applications were reviewed in a different manner than that of a white male applicant.

Regards

I'm not successful yet, but one day. I'm the youth (I'm 18) so this drives me crazy because these are the type of things that have made it so difficult for the advancement of minorities. Look at what happened to Bill Cosby he speaks out against minorities thinking they are all going to the NBA and NFL and he is shunned in the black community... Truth hurts.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/24/11

It's worse being mixed. You get shit on by everyone. Black women ... ugh. It's so sad because there's so much that could've gone right but didn't, and instead it's a bunch of lazy people far too eager to get into a fight in public, shake their overweight ass in a club, scream if someone (white) dares insult them, yet completely happy to dance to music with lyrics like "Biiiitch, biiitch, shake that monkey."

Most people do things to add days to their life. I do things to add life to my days.

Browse my blog as a WSO contributing author

3/24/11
A Posse Ad Esse:

lyrics like "Biiiitch, biiitch, shake that monkey."

hahahaha.

3/24/11

I'm not condoning any of this, but there's trash on both sides of the spectrum. Have you seen "Jersey Shore"? Get over it.

3/25/11

Lol first off, no I am not keeping myself down txjustin. I'm doing just fine.

Honestly, do you think calling a group of people Savages is really going to do them any good? If someone really wants to improve the state of the Black race, volunteer with children, women, etc. - understand the plight of the people and develop an approach to help change their circumstances rather than insulting them. Insults never go far in creating change.

Nowhere on here did I condone the behavior of these girls. I don't surround myself with people who like to fight and argue in public - no matter what race they are. I'm a peaceful woman =)

Let's look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxRhTPXPLUU&feature...
Or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkMs8SmCQfE&feature...
This one maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCyQSkd0ixA

Or maybe the thousands of similar videos of caucasian girls fighting. But somehow I know no one will start saying "White Race Needs" or "White women, [ insert sterotype here]". I don't think seeing a video like this should prompt anyone to make such sweeping comments, which blackfinancier made, and with which I take issue.

As far as racism, "What the Black Race" needs is to be free from steryotypes. "What the Black Race" needs is the opportunity to work to prove themselves without the notion that they are somehow priviledged for being Blalck or another minority. A Black person who is in any position of power is often looked at as being there only because they are Black or a URM. Behind this thinking is the inherent feeling that, without affirmative action, Black people would be nowhere. Its evident on this board in a lot of different forum topics. Oh you got into Harvard? Congrats! I'm sure 98% of the reasoning behind that is that you're black. You're in banking or consulting? Oh...it's because you are Black. Man, I wish I was black so I could get that edge- you know, so I could be unqualified but succeed! I'm not saying affirmative action does not help minorities (and White Women - the main beneficiaries), because that would be a ridiculous statement. I know I'm going to catch a lot of heat for this, but oh well. Affirmative action is there to help those who have historically been underpriviledged. Although it would be a lot better to do so with socioeconomic status, race is often times tied to socioecomic status. And, contrary to popular belief, not every black person is there because of affirmative action.

Trust me, racism exists. Its not the same kind of racism that causes people to lynch Black men or harm Black children. Most of America has moved WAY beyond that, thankfully. The racism that exists today is the less overt kind - the kind where Black people are looked at and thought of as less than equals in ability or in mentality. The kind where someone can even look at a video like this and believe its appropriate to talk about "Black womanhood".

3/25/11
love.live.life:

Lol first off, no I am not keeping myself down txjustin. I'm doing just fine.

Honestly, do you think calling a group of people Savages is really going to do them any good? If someone really wants to improve the state of the Black race, volunteer with children, women, etc. - understand the plight of the people and develop an approach to help change their circumstances rather than insulting them. Insults never go far in creating change.

Nowhere on here did I condone the behavior of these girls. I don't surround myself with people who like to fight and argue in public - no matter what race they are. I'm a peaceful woman =)

Let's look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxRhTPXPLUU&feature...
Or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkMs8SmCQfE&feature...
This one maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCyQSkd0ixA

Or maybe the thousands of similar videos of caucasian girls fighting. But somehow I know no one will start saying what the "White Race Needs" or "White women, [ insert sterotype here]". I don't think seeing a video like this should prompt anyone to make such sweeping comments, which blackfinancier made, and with which I take issue.

As far as racism, "What the Black Race" needs is to be free from steryotypes. "What the Black Race" needs is the opportunity to work to prove themselves without the notion that they are somehow priviledged for being Blalck or another minority. A Black person who is in any position of power is often looked at as being there only because they are Black or a URM. Behind this thinking is the inherent feeling that, without affirmative action, Black people would be nowhere. Its evident on this board in a lot of different forum topics. Oh you got into Harvard? Congrats! I'm sure 98% of the reasoning behind that is that you're black. You're in banking or consulting? Oh...it's because you are Black. Man, I wish I was black so I could get that edge- you know, so I could be unqualified but succeed! I'm not saying affirmative action does not help minorities (and White Women - the main beneficiaries), because that would be a ridiculous statement. I know I'm going to catch a lot of heat for this, but oh well. Affirmative action is there to help those who have historically been underpriviledged. Although it would be a lot better to do so with socioeconomic status, race is often times tied to socioecomic status. And, contrary to popular belief, not every black person is there because of affirmative action.

Trust me, racism exists. Its not the same kind of racism that causes people to lynch Black men or harm Black children. Most of America has moved WAY beyond that, thankfully. The racism that exists today is the less overt kind - the kind where Black people are looked at and thought of as less than equals in ability or in mentality. The kind where someone can even look at a video like this and believe its appropriate to talk about "Black womanhood".

I'll address these points one at time, #1 Justin is being annoying passive racism exists, I have been blatantly followed in stores and what not.

Do I think that calling a group of people savages is doing them any good? Of course not, I think its actually pretty shitty of me but people who act the way that the women in ALL of the videos that have been posted on this thread are savages. White, Black and Asian doesn't matter the color. Improvement starts by stating that we have a problem; we as a black community have a problem if you don't believe that you live under a rock. I posted a link to an article in Psychology Today to how everyone holds there own prejudices, in that article it states that many of there responders tribute positive things to white people and negative things to black people subconsciously...do we ever think why that is? Like I said prior and I will say again sweeping generalizations aren't good aren't positive but there are some truth to stereotypes or they wouldn't be there in the first place.

Affirmative Action without it....only God knows what Wall Street will look like... Think about it like this the debate of whether prep preschool-->Prep high school----> HYP----> Wall Street v Non- Target---> Wall Street will always remain... which person is smarter... But if you think about it those who prepare at a young age are already at an advantage versus everyone else. Now what are the %'s of black people v white people who have adequate knowledge of a young age of a career in Wall Street and how lucrative it could be with adequate preparation and discipline? Its the whole not knowing factor there are many people who are smart enough driven enough ambitious enough to succeed on Wall Street but they don't know about it or there talents have gone to waste because they were pushed by there parents to succeed. Race and socioeconomic status are mutually exclusive. You're right not every black person is there because of affirmative action but you're missing the point, affirmative action doesn't mean you are stupid so they hand you the job because you're black its more two qualified people one is black one is white, black one gets the job because of Affirmative Action... the white person doesn't thats why people are up in arms about it.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11

I never said affirmative action means you are stupid. I argued quite the opposite.
If you don't believe that socioeconomic status is often times tied to race, look at page six of this US cencus report (pg. 14 of the PDF). Take a look at median income levels by race.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p60-238.pdf

3/25/11
love.live.life:

I never said affirmative action means you are stupid. I argued quite the opposite.
If you don't believe that socioeconomic status is often times tied to race, look at page six of this US cencus report (pg. 14 of the PDF). Take a look at median income levels by race.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p60-238.pdf

Being black doesn't mean you are poor though. Right there, proves they are mutually exclusive...I agree that there are more poor black people than any other race but WHY is that.. that is the problem. It isn't going to change just talking about it. Understanding why it's like that is what matters.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:

I never said affirmative action means you are stupid. I argued quite the opposite.
If you don't believe that socioeconomic status is often times tied to race, look at page six of this US cencus report (pg. 14 of the PDF). Take a look at median income levels by race.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p60-238.pdf

Being black doesn't mean you are poor though. Right there, proves they are mutually exclusive...I agree that there are more poor black people than any other race but WHY is that.. that is the problem. It isn't going to change just talking about it. Understanding why it's like that is what matters.

Obviously being black doesn't mean you are poor. There are wealthy people of every race, clearly. Given the fact that the median income level for Blacks and hispanics is significanly lower than that of Whites and Asians, there is a much greater likelihood that people who are in poverty are Black or Hispanic. Not really an opinion, but more of a fact given statistics. Once again, socioeconomic status is often times correlated with race.

There are a lot of reasons why. That's not in the expertise of those in finance, but moreso those in sociology. If you are interested, read books. Plenty have been written.

3/25/11
3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:

I never said affirmative action means you are stupid. I argued quite the opposite.
If you don't believe that socioeconomic status is often times tied to race, look at page six of this US cencus report (pg. 14 of the PDF). Take a look at median income levels by race.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p60-238.pdf

Being black doesn't mean you are poor though. Right there, proves they are mutually exclusive...I agree that there are more poor black people than any other race but WHY is that.. that is the problem. It isn't going to change just talking about it. Understanding why it's like that is what matters.

Obviously being black doesn't mean you are poor. There are wealthy people of every race, clearly. Given the fact that the median income level for Blacks and hispanics is significanly lower than that of Whites and Asians, there is a much greater likelihood that people who are in poverty are Black or Hispanic. Not really an opinion, but more of a fact given statistics. Once again, socioeconomic status is often times correlated with race.

There are a lot of reasons why. That's not in the expertise of those in finance, but moreso those in sociology. If you are interested, read books. Plenty have been written.

Minorities will be poor until they want to change that.. Look at you and I, we want something better for ourself so we are working towards that. Think about the people you know who live in the ghetto.. what do they want for themselves the next best get rich quick plan so..they are getting what comes to them by living that life. Although its tough to break the cycle of poverty one must start somewhere....

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:

I never said affirmative action means you are stupid. I argued quite the opposite.
If you don't believe that socioeconomic status is often times tied to race, look at page six of this US cencus report (pg. 14 of the PDF). Take a look at median income levels by race.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p60-238.pdf

Being black doesn't mean you are poor though. Right there, proves they are mutually exclusive...I agree that there are more poor black people than any other race but WHY is that.. that is the problem. It isn't going to change just talking about it. Understanding why it's like that is what matters.

Obviously being black doesn't mean you are poor. There are wealthy people of every race, clearly. Given the fact that the median income level for Blacks and hispanics is significanly lower than that of Whites and Asians, there is a much greater likelihood that people who are in poverty are Black or Hispanic. Not really an opinion, but more of a fact given statistics. Once again, socioeconomic status is often times correlated with race.

There are a lot of reasons why. That's not in the expertise of those in finance, but moreso those in sociology. If you are interested, read books. Plenty have been written.

Minorities will be poor until they want to change that.. Look at you and I, we want something better for ourself so we are working towards that. Think about the people you know who live in the ghetto.. what do they want for themselves the next best get rich quick plan so..they are getting what comes to them by living that life. Although its tough to break the cycle of poverty one must start somewhere....

Please don't ever include you and me together in any category. Other than the fact that we are both Black, I think we are quite different. No one wants to be shot at. No one wants to send their children to some of the worst public schools in America. Those who are poor (including those who are in the ghetto) obviously want better for themselves, so that's not the reason. Again, read books. Consider taking a class on African American studies, or even a general sociology class on poverty in America. They will give you plenty of "whys".

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:

I never said affirmative action means you are stupid. I argued quite the opposite.
If you don't believe that socioeconomic status is often times tied to race, look at page six of this US cencus report (pg. 14 of the PDF). Take a look at median income levels by race.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p60-238.pdf

Being black doesn't mean you are poor though. Right there, proves they are mutually exclusive...I agree that there are more poor black people than any other race but WHY is that.. that is the problem. It isn't going to change just talking about it. Understanding why it's like that is what matters.

Obviously being black doesn't mean you are poor. There are wealthy people of every race, clearly. Given the fact that the median income level for Blacks and hispanics is significanly lower than that of Whites and Asians, there is a much greater likelihood that people who are in poverty are Black or Hispanic. Not really an opinion, but more of a fact given statistics. Once again, socioeconomic status is often times correlated with race.

There are a lot of reasons why. That's not in the expertise of those in finance, but moreso those in sociology. If you are interested, read books. Plenty have been written.

Minorities will be poor until they want to change that.. Look at you and I, we want something better for ourself so we are working towards that. Think about the people you know who live in the ghetto.. what do they want for themselves the next best get rich quick plan so..they are getting what comes to them by living that life. Although its tough to break the cycle of poverty one must start somewhere....

Please don't ever include you and me together in any category. I think we are quite different. No one wants to be shot at. No one wants to send their children to some of the worst public schools in America. Those who are poor (including those who are in the ghetto) obviously want better for themselves, so that's not the reason. Again, read books. Consider taking a class on African American studies, or even a general sociology class on poverty in America. They will give you plenty of "whys".

No one? Is that an absolute? Have you ever watched Lockup plenty of people enjoy the lifestyle they live in the hood. They want a better life for themselves but do the completely opposite and they don't help the next generation? We are quite different? Alright didn't say we were the same... just said "we want something better for ourselves so we are working towards that" But alright.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:
blackfinancier:
love.live.life:

I never said affirmative action means you are stupid. I argued quite the opposite.
If you don't believe that socioeconomic status is often times tied to race, look at page six of this US cencus report (pg. 14 of the PDF). Take a look at median income levels by race.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p60-238.pdf

Being black doesn't mean you are poor though. Right there, proves they are mutually exclusive...I agree that there are more poor black people than any other race but WHY is that.. that is the problem. It isn't going to change just talking about it. Understanding why it's like that is what matters.

Obviously being black doesn't mean you are poor. There are wealthy people of every race, clearly. Given the fact that the median income level for Blacks and hispanics is significanly lower than that of Whites and Asians, there is a much greater likelihood that people who are in poverty are Black or Hispanic. Not really an opinion, but more of a fact given statistics. Once again, socioeconomic status is often times correlated with race.

There are a lot of reasons why. That's not in the expertise of those in finance, but moreso those in sociology. If you are interested, read books. Plenty have been written.

Minorities will be poor until they want to change that.. Look at you and I, we want something better for ourself so we are working towards that. Think about the people you know who live in the ghetto.. what do they want for themselves the next best get rich quick plan so..they are getting what comes to them by living that life. Although its tough to break the cycle of poverty one must start somewhere....

Please don't ever include you and me together in any category. Other than the fact that we are both Black, I think we are quite different. No one wants to be shot at. No one wants to send their children to some of the worst public schools in America. Those who are poor (including those who are in the ghetto) obviously want better for themselves, so that's not the reason. Again, read books. Consider taking a class on African American studies, or even a general sociology class on poverty in America. They will give you plenty of "whys".

This is flat out the number 1 liberal argument in the handbook. No one wants this, no one wants that. Unfortunately you probably grew up in a decent house with decent parents (most likely both) and you have no clue what the ghetto is about. How is it some people make it out and some don't? If you could tell me to look around and say hey, there is not one single successful person that ever made it out of the ghetto, the trailer park or the farm then I would have to concede the point...but such is not the case. Many people have come from utterly shitty situations and made notable accomplishments in their life...so what's the difference between the ones that have and the ones that haven't? Did the one that made it have a newer text book and a park with a working basketball rim and street lights there weren't broken? Chances are no, they didn't.

The bottom line is these people love to make excuses and point fingers and try to explain away why they can't make it...and the common theme is it is ALWAYS somebody else's fault...never their own. Poor people don't need the liberal elite running around making excuses for them because they already do that very well for themselves.

For some reason the vast majority of liberals can't wrap their brains around the fact that some people don't mind being failures or mind going to jail. This is all the simple economics of opportunity cost. They weigh their options...get up and go to work everyday and save some money and not buy drugs and alcohol or stay out late partying, oversleep, get fired and then just 'hustle' to get paid...which usually involves selling drugs or committing crimes.

And I actually have seen this first hand by sitting through court trails of random people who are back every few weeks and by watching my very own brother (and possibly a second one) throw his life down the drain...and they are actually black (if that helps make the point).

Of course no one wants to be shot at or go hungry, the question is, what is their alternative and did they choice the path that seemed the easiest? Why bet is they did.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/25/11
3/25/11

Preach it sister.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

3/25/11

There are so many things that I want to say here I just...can't

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

3/25/11

When you are hungry, and the people you see with money around you are the gang bangers, its hard for a young person to see the exit from that lifestyle. Why worry about the future when hunger can kill you today? I have witnessed many of the traps that lead people to fall into the cycle of poverty. No, people do not want to be poor. Even in ghettos, people strive for the optoins that they view as attainable that will get them the most money, even if its a high risk option.

It is hard for middle class America, and more especially, those born into the upper class, to understand that many of the people in poor neighborhoods were never exposed to the path of Wall Street or becoming a doctor or lawyer. That's like me saying to you, "Why didn't you go make millions in oil in Texas?" It wouldn't be a fair question because you do not know the way to get there, nor do you have the network to steer you in the right direction.

That being said, I'm a major proponent of personal responsibility. I don't believe everyone deserves to succeed, regardless of race or socioeconomic standing. What I do believe is that everyone deserves an equal opportunity to work towards that success. Don't condem the child living in the Bronx dodging bullets for not going on to be the next software genius when he has never seen a tangible way to reach this. In the case of people like your brother who have had the opportunity to make something of themselves and instead choose not to, that's another matter. The difference between those that make it out and those that do not is that those that do often have someone - a caring teacher (difficult to come by in the inner city), a friend, a cousin, anyone - who exposes them to other paths than what they see on a daily basis. If someone is given the opportunity and the guidance necessary to succeed, and they do not take it, that is a reflection of his or her personal character. I feel no sorrow whatsoever. However, I don't believe those that never get that same chance should be looked down upon or assumed to be lazy.

This is one of my favorite poems. You may or may not find any merit in it, but I hope you at least read it with an open mind for the perspective of someone in poverty.
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2005/09/03/being-poor/

3/25/11

Thanks dude.

3/25/11

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/25/11

Enjoy some bananas on me

3/26/11

Question: how come broke ass Vietnamese boat people come over here and do better in one generation than African-Americans in the 10+ post-slavery? I mean, in the scheme of American racism, both groups get shit on pretty hard, but one is doing better economically than the other.

Racism explains much, but it can't explain everything. Being set back at the starting line explains much, but again, not everything.

Honest question.

3/26/11
ivoteforthatguy:

Question: how come broke ass Vietnamese boat people come over here and do better in one generation than African-Americans in the 10+ post-slavery? I mean, in the scheme of American racism, both groups get shit on pretty hard, but one is doing better economically than the other.

Racism explains much, but it can't explain everything. Being set back at the starting line explains much, but again, not everything.

Honest question.

I'll answer this after work, but what i will say not all black people are created the same the phrase "African American" is used so loosely that its just a PC word. Not all black people are African American.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/26/11
ivoteforthatguy:

Question: how come broke ass Vietnamese boat people come over here and do better in one generation than African-Americans in the 10+ post-slavery? I mean, in the scheme of American racism, both groups get shit on pretty hard, but one is doing better economically than the other.

Racism explains much, but it can't explain everything. Being set back at the starting line explains much, but again, not everything.

Honest question.

Hey don't get all PC on us. The group you are referring to is plain black, or black American, not African Americans. In my opinion, African Americans do nearly as well as the Asians that are FOB because they know what a shitty situation really is...not the "suffering" that is the black community in America who still has access to an education, food, transportation, Jordans (lol) and many other things that would be deemed a luxury to the first generation Americans.

Case in point, I had a taxi drive a couple weeks ago that took me back to my buddies place out in the burbs (so a lengthy ride). When I went to get in his cab, he had an introductory to calculus book sitting on his seat that he quickly cleared off for me. I asked him about the book and if he was in school, etc. Come to find out that he is a first generation American, grew up in Nigeria and has been in the states for 9 years. He's going to school to become a nuclear engineer and he was driving to cab to earn money while going to class. Eventually the conversation spun into how lucky he is to be here where he has to opportunity to be something great. At this point I am curious as to whether or not he seriously wants to be an engineer or if he is an Al-Qaeda sleeper cell agent that is training to be able to destroy us from the inside out, lol. So I was asking probing questions and his response was simply he love America and this is the place where anyone can come and make their dreams come true because there are so many opportunities, etc. He ended up on the subject of blacks in America and basically said that he is ashamed because they have the chance to do anything they want and they are lazy and don't want to work...which was okay with him because he would take the jobs they didn't want until he graduated from school.

Again, we come back to the question, how can someone with little to no English language training come to America with basically no money in their pockets manage to find a job, earn a living and go to college but people who live in America already can't figure it out?? And I'm sick of hearing the bullshit argument that blacks don't know anything better because you can't honestly tell me that someone from Nigeria has a concrete idea of how lucrative a job on Wall Street would be, etc.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/26/11
cphbravo96:
ivoteforthatguy:

Question: how come broke ass Vietnamese boat people come over here and do better in one generation than African-Americans in the 10+ post-slavery? I mean, in the scheme of American racism, both groups get shit on pretty hard, but one is doing better economically than the other.

Racism explains much, but it can't explain everything. Being set back at the starting line explains much, but again, not everything.

Honest question.

Hey don't get all PC on us. The group you are referring to is plain black, or black American, not African Americans. In my opinion, African Americans do nearly as well as the Asians that are FOB because they know what a shitty situation really is...not the "suffering" that is the black community in America who still has access to an education, food, transportation, Jordans (lol) and many other things that would be deemed a luxury to the first generation Americans.

Case in point, I had a taxi drive a couple weeks ago that took me back to my buddies place out in the burbs (so a lengthy ride). When I went to get in his cab, he had an introductory to calculus book sitting on his seat that he quickly cleared off for me. I asked him about the book and if he was in school, etc. Come to find out that he is a first generation American, grew up in Nigeria and has been in the states for 9 years. He's going to school to become a nuclear engineer and he was driving to cab to earn money while going to class. Eventually the conversation spun into how lucky he is to be here where he has to opportunity to be something great. At this point I am curious as to whether or not he seriously wants to be an engineer or if he is an Al-Qaeda sleeper cell agent that is training to be able to destroy us from the inside out, lol. So I was asking probing questions and his response was simply he love America and this is the place where anyone can come and make their dreams come true because there are so many opportunities, etc. He ended up on the subject of blacks in America and basically said that he is ashamed because they have the chance to do anything they want and they are lazy and don't want to work...which was okay with him because he would take the jobs they didn't want until he graduated from school.

Again, we come back to the question, how can someone with little to no English language training come to America with basically no money in their pockets manage to find a job, earn a living and go to college but people who live in America already can't figure it out?? And I'm sick of hearing the bullshit argument that blacks don't know anything better because you can't honestly tell me that someone from Nigeria has a concrete idea of how lucrative a job on Wall Street would be, etc.

Regards

Funny that you bring up Nigerian's my parents are FOB Nigerian and basically this story, well is the same story my dad told me other than he was a dishwasher when he first moved here and not a taxi driver but other than that its all the same. Many of my dad's friends took the route of starting off as a taxi driver to earn more money, so they could better their lives. Like I mentioned before African American is a bullshit PC term created for all those people who feel hurt being called "black." So I personally think its ridiculous and a lame excuse for black Americans to say they know no better. Also today at work I asked some people I work with who are from the ghetto how to change the ghetto and they told me simply this " people act the way they do because they don't care." Now what does that tell you...

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/26/11
cphbravo96:
ivoteforthatguy:

Question: how come broke ass Vietnamese boat people come over here and do better in one generation than African-Americans in the 10+ post-slavery? I mean, in the scheme of American racism, both groups get shit on pretty hard, but one is doing better economically than the other.

Racism explains much, but it can't explain everything. Being set back at the starting line explains much, but again, not everything.

Honest question.

Hey don't get all PC on us. The group you are referring to is plain black, or black American, not African Americans. In my opinion, African Americans do nearly as well as the Asians that are FOB because they know what a shitty situation really is...not the "suffering" that is the black community in America who still has access to an education, food, transportation, Jordans (lol) and many other things that would be deemed a luxury to the first generation Americans.

Case in point, I had a taxi drive a couple weeks ago that took me back to my buddies place out in the burbs (so a lengthy ride). When I went to get in his cab, he had an introductory to calculus book sitting on his seat that he quickly cleared off for me. I asked him about the book and if he was in school, etc. Come to find out that he is a first generation American, grew up in Nigeria and has been in the states for 9 years. He's going to school to become a nuclear engineer and he was driving to cab to earn money while going to class. Eventually the conversation spun into how lucky he is to be here where he has to opportunity to be something great. At this point I am curious as to whether or not he seriously wants to be an engineer or if he is an Al-Qaeda sleeper cell agent that is training to be able to destroy us from the inside out, lol. So I was asking probing questions and his response was simply he love America and this is the place where anyone can come and make their dreams come true because there are so many opportunities, etc. He ended up on the subject of blacks in America and basically said that he is ashamed because they have the chance to do anything they want and they are lazy and don't want to work...which was okay with him because he would take the jobs they didn't want until he graduated from school.

Again, we come back to the question, how can someone with little to no English language training come to America with basically no money in their pockets manage to find a job, earn a living and go to college but people who live in America already can't figure it out?? And I'm sick of hearing the bullshit argument that blacks don't know anything better because you can't honestly tell me that someone from Nigeria has a concrete idea of how lucrative a job on Wall Street would be, etc.

Regards

yeah this should clarify blackfinancier's point about differentiating between black americans and african immigrants. in GS my trini friend said that her dad would accept nothing less than a perfect SAT, becasue the test is a joke and anyone should be able to get a perfect score. now that is some tiger parenting right there.

in my mind, with obama's election, you have got to say that the country is not nearly as racist as it used to be. no more excuses. you can be any color and be president. how good is that? the oval office now has more diversity than some golf clubs in georgia, but fuck em, why would you want to join a club that disrespects you? be like the jews and start your own, swankier clubs in LA or NYC.

we should change the system of accounting for years. instead of 2008 AD, that should be the year 0 YBP (year of black president). So 2004 is the year 4 BBP (before black president) and now we are in the year 3.

3/26/11

YOu bring up a good point cphbravo! I recently took a gmat prep course and my class consisted of 2 Indians(who were both engineers), 3 Nigerians, 1 from Turkey(who went to Stanford UG and was an engineer), a South American, and 4 white Americans. I know this is a small sample size, but wanted to add that. Oh, all of these people are 1st generation Americans.

3/26/11

Way to hijack the thread. Anyways, this is the most awesome subway violence video of all time...
http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/video-br...

I think that we are all clinging to a great many piano tops...

3/27/11

When did WSO become Stormfront?

  • Bulls make money. Bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered.
  • The harder you work, the luckier you become.
  • I believe in the "Golden Rule": the man with the gold rules.
3/27/11
Ske7ch:

When did WSO become Stormfront?

wha???

even ANT, our resident conservative curmudgeon, is pro-fixing the schools in the inner cities even at extraordinary cost.

3/27/11

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

3/28/11
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Sup Chris Rock?

3/29/11
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

3/29/11
ButHopeful:
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

Could you also explain how the post isn't racist?

3/29/11
ButHopeful:
ButHopeful:
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

Could you also explain how the post isn't racist?

In his defense it isn't racist because that is pretty accurate.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/29/11
blackfinancier][quote=ButHopeful:
ButHopeful:
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

Could you also explain how the post isn't racist?

In his defense it isn't racist because that is pretty accurate.

Kid, you DID make several good points in your posts but, on principle alone, I doubt I'd respect you as a human being if we had this discussion in person. This has little to do with you not supporting black people, but more to do with the fact that you're this disdainful of your heritage. Not even Bill Cosby, whose statements I wholeheartedly agree with, was this quick to dissociate himself from black people.

3/29/11
ButHopeful][quote=blackfinancier:
ButHopeful:
ButHopeful:
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

Could you also explain how the post isn't racist?

In his defense it isn't racist because that is pretty accurate.

Kid, you DID make several good points in your posts but, on principle alone, I doubt I'd respect you as a human being if we had this discussion in person. This has little to do with you not supporting black people, but more to do with the fact that you're this disdainful of your heritage. Not even Bill Cosby, whose statements I wholeheartedly agree with, was this quick to dissociate himself from black people.

First off if we had this discussion in person it would go COMPLETELY differently as I could point out visual references, and online you have to exaggerate the point a bit to make it in person there is no need because you have other ways of seeing the person making a point. Also umm Bill Cosby did dissociate himself with black people who aren't trying to make something better of his there lives. Bill Cosby has been distanced by major black party leaders ill provide links on the bottom of this, because of his comments about black people and black AMERICAN culture. I dissociate myself with black AMERICAN because that isn't who I'm... the fact you wouldn't respect me as a human being because I have an opinion is unbelievably simple minded. But to each his own.
https://brotherpeacemaker.wordpress.com/category/b...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story...

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/29/11
blackfinancier][quote=ButHopeful:
blackfinancier:
ButHopeful:
ButHopeful:
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

Could you also explain how the post isn't racist?

In his defense it isn't racist because that is pretty accurate.

Kid, you DID make several good points in your posts but, on principle alone, I doubt I'd respect you as a human being if we had this discussion in person. This has little to do with you not supporting black people, but more to do with the fact that you're this disdainful of your heritage. Not even Bill Cosby, whose statements I wholeheartedly agree with, was this quick to dissociate himself from black people.

First off if we had this discussion in person it would go COMPLETELY differently as I could point out visual references, and online you have to exaggerate the point a bit to make it in person there is no need because you have other ways of seeing the person making a point. Also umm Bill Cosby did dissociate himself with black people who aren't trying to make something better of his there lives. Bill Cosby has been distanced by major black party leaders ill provide links on the bottom of this, because of his comments about black people and black AMERICAN culture. I dissociate myself with black AMERICAN because that isn't who I'm... the fact you wouldn't respect me as a human being because I have an opinion is unbelievably simple minded. But to each his own.
https://brotherpeacemaker.wordpress.com/category/b...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story...

Unbelievably simple-minded lol? Take a look at your very first post on this topic.

3/29/11
ButHopeful][quote=blackfinancier:
ButHopeful:
blackfinancier:
ButHopeful:
ButHopeful:
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

Could you also explain how the post isn't racist?

In his defense it isn't racist because that is pretty accurate.

Kid, you DID make several good points in your posts but, on principle alone, I doubt I'd respect you as a human being if we had this discussion in person. This has little to do with you not supporting black people, but more to do with the fact that you're this disdainful of your heritage. Not even Bill Cosby, whose statements I wholeheartedly agree with, was this quick to dissociate himself from black people.

First off if we had this discussion in person it would go COMPLETELY differently as I could point out visual references, and online you have to exaggerate the point a bit to make it in person there is no need because you have other ways of seeing the person making a point. Also umm Bill Cosby did dissociate himself with black people who aren't trying to make something better of his there lives. Bill Cosby has been distanced by major black party leaders ill provide links on the bottom of this, because of his comments about black people and black AMERICAN culture. I dissociate myself with black AMERICAN because that isn't who I'm... the fact you wouldn't respect me as a human being because I have an opinion is unbelievably simple minded. But to each his own.
https://brotherpeacemaker.wordpress.com/category/b...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story...

Unbelievably simple-minded lol? Take a look at your very first post on this topic.

Alright what about it i further explained myself didn't I? You said "you wouldn't respect me as a person" because i had an opinion.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/29/11
ButHopeful][quote=blackfinancier:
ButHopeful:
ButHopeful:
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

Could you also explain how the post isn't racist?

In his defense it isn't racist because that is pretty accurate.

Kid, you DID make several good points in your posts but, on principle alone, I doubt I'd respect you as a human being if we had this discussion in person. This has little to do with you not supporting black people, but more to do with the fact that you're this disdainful of your heritage. Not even Bill Cosby, whose statements I wholeheartedly agree with, was this quick to dissociate himself from black people.

Yeah man, there is something so wrong with not wanting to associate yourself with thugs, drug dealers, dead beat dads, unemployed welfare moochers and baby mamas who pop out kids like it's a reality tv show contest.

So many people want to look at this situation as though it is solely based on race...and it isn't. It is based more on socioeconomic status than anything. I don't make excuses for the white trash that lives in trailer parks who can't pay their child support but can afford booze and cigarettes. I don't associate myself with people like that regardless of whether or not they have the same skin tone as I do...and successful blacks shouldn't feel/be obligated to associate or identify with other blacks who don't want to help themselves. This isn't about brotherhood and struggling through an era where there aren't equal rights and opportunities. The play field has been severely leveled...even if it still isn't perfect...yet the black community seems to be getting worse. I don't recall if it was this post or another recently, but someone posted some statistics (if I reccall correctly) about the percentage of blacks that are employed and it's dwindled over the years...despite more help and more social programs and less (overt) racism. Why does NONE of that add up?

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

3/29/11
ButHopeful][quote=blackfinancier:
ButHopeful:
ButHopeful:
pingafrita:

Only watched the video but I always tell people (dont mean to sound racist at all but there's truth to this) that there are blacks and then there are niggas. Tiger Woods is a black. Obama is a black. That MD that just gave you more work is a black. Kevin Garnett is a nigga. Rasheed Wallace is a nigga. Akon, 75% of Rikers, and the guys that cant seem to shut up in the movie theaters are niggas. They become what they're parents helped them become and their children will become just like them. Until one of them decides that they want to change and contribute to society, the cycle will continue into perpetuity.

Other than appearing like you have some kind of insight into "black culture", can you point out the reasoning behind this post? Thanks.

Could you also explain how the post isn't racist?

In his defense it isn't racist because that is pretty accurate.

Kid, you DID make several good points in your posts but, on principle alone, I doubt I'd respect you as a human being if we had this discussion in person. This has little to do with you not supporting black people, but more to do with the fact that you're this disdainful of your heritage. Not even Bill Cosby, whose statements I wholeheartedly agree with, was this quick to dissociate himself from black people.

I just thought it was about dumb people fighting. That isn't racist, it'f free entertainment. People acting poorly, caught on film never gets old.

Get busy living

3/28/11

i'm now craving spaghetti

3/28/11

Do you guys think this guy is a racist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR6mPgSxPtY&feature...

3/28/11
Nobama88:

Do you guys think this guy is a racist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR6mPgSxPtY&feature...

I hate him along with many other people who call themselves "black party leaders" how about Bill Cosby for black party leader oh wait... he''ll tell them to go get a job....

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/29/11

Can we actually go back to thorough analysis and due diligence of the sample materials posted by Eddie and cphbravo96?

I think a few topics desserve to be covered before the pitchbook can go to the printroom, e.g. :

-Why on earth is the girl on the 3rd video (raw at taco bell??) wearing f***** bikinis???
-Is there a relationship between the woman that gets assaulted and the dude who covers her at the end in Eddie's video?
-What's the Zangief kid's view about this?
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-ms4gSLWA

3/29/11
Muskrateer:

Can we actually go back to thorough analysis and due diligence of the sample materials posted by Eddie and cphbravo96?

I think a few topics desserve to be covered before the pitchbook can go to the printroom, e.g. :

-Why on earth is the girl on the 3rd video (raw at taco bell??) wearing f***** bikinis???
-Is there a relationship between the woman that gets assaulted and the dude who covers her at the end in Eddie's video?
-What's the Zangief kid's view about this?
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-ms4gSLWA

The first one is spring break

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

3/29/11
Muskrateer:

Can we actually go back to thorough analysis and due diligence of the sample materials posted by Eddie and cphbravo96?

I think a few topics desserve to be covered before the pitchbook can go to the printroom, e.g. :

-Why on earth is the girl on the 3rd video (raw at taco bell??) wearing f***** bikinis???
-Is there a relationship between the woman that gets assaulted and the dude who covers her at the end in Eddie's video?
-What's the Zangief kid's view about this?
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-ms4gSLWA

....and who filmed it?

Get busy living

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The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

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