Alex Vayner part deux

This person is a complete and total disgrace.

I had seen the resume and presentation prior to it going all viral, and all I came away thinking was "what a pathetic moron." Had she simply sent in her resume and a normal BS cover letter, she'd probably have been a serious contender for a job. Instead, I am convinced that this chick should be removed from society. It's little shitheads like this that make me hate my job and the industry at large. Pieces of garbage that literally dedicate their every action and thought to working in IB / PE. How fucking pathetic is it that people like this exist? Someone who uses every moment of their life to build a resume just to spend every moment of their life working to death.

FEEL MY RAGE

She is also in blatant violation of CFAI standards, wouldn't be surprised to see a crack down soon

I'm sorry, guys, but this is just awful. How on Earth did this chick ever get a call back?

Serious question: do they fucking teach grammar and sentence structure in school anymore? Are you all this fucking dopey when it comes to writing skills? This wasn't some hasty screed in a chat room, this was a structured presentation designed to land her a job.

I couldn't make it past the third slide.

This fucking industry is circling the drain.

I'm very excited about the fast-paced, people-oriented environment in Investment Banking where new things come up every day really obsesses me. I also excited about participating in different deals from which I can develop business acumen on different industries.

What the fuck?

All your base are belong to us, honey.

This person can't even put together coherent sentences. And very impressive she raised a whole $200 in donations... Completely and utterly pathetic,

I have seen strung out pot heads generate a more coherent thought pattern. I think Citi and BAML should be ashamed of themselves for giving her a call back.....especially for IBD, attention to detail anyone?

I also think that Dealbreaker may have just fucked her completely and I can't see her getting an offer now.

I kind of feel bad for this kid... maybe this is how many people in China get jobs. Hell, most of us on this board don't have jobs yet--- maybe Clipart is the way to go. ;)

This will explain everything:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1694642051

(That's her.)

This chick is good at one thing, regurgitating information from her textbooks. Her accomplishments are superficial, her grammar is worse than a 5th grader, and she's taken bullshitting to a whole new level.

This has to be fake.

Edit: ok wow, she's "liked" Donald Trump and Ivanka Trump on Facebook...

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/wenfeng-wang/16/174/796

Hhaha, yeah I saw this shit before it went viral too. I personally love the bamboo PPT background. Nothing says Wall Street to me like panda bears, bamboo shoots and dragons.

On a serious note though... things like this could be partially forgivable if it wasn't so poorly executed. After all college kids are susceptible to mis-steps, and going out on a limb, being ballsy and being creative shouldn't have the downside of career suicide / humiliation. I felt bad initially for this chick but then it was just one thing after the other.

For one, the grammar was horrendous. Which, again I gave her the benefit of the doubt on cuz she was obviously Chinese.... but then she goes on to boast about her superior writing and composition skills. On top of that its ridden with typos and formatting fuck ups. On TOP of that, the e-mail itself had typos in it. How the fuck do you manage to have a typo in a 2 sentence e-mail which you should have proofread 40 times before you hit send.

Then there was the obvious hilarity of the $200 raised for charity and the mock-league table-esque slide.

Overall if it was a 2 or 3 pager, which was professional and well-executed, this non-conventional ballsy approach is something I probably would have liked and could have generated some positive reactions (albeit from undergrads ONLY).

@Marcus:

She's a masters student, not undergrad...

It's clear that she's not being called back by BAML and Citi because of her "unique" application, it's because she's obviously Asian.

LMAO. How is Vikram going to react when he finds out she hasn't "Liked" him on Facebook, but she "Likes" Jamie Dimon?

Why are asian finance nerds so weird? I remember an undergrad networking event and at the question part of the info session this girl from Beijing stood up and gave her credentials and little pitch to this guy who was a guest speaker. I was embarrassed to be there and wish I could have framed the look on this MS guys face.

I admire the determination and the will to "differentiate" oneself, but this is rediculous. Whatever happened to the good ole fashioned phone call and networking?

We had a guy come in the other day for a SA interview. Without knowing my last name or having my business card I get an email saying that his meeting me "must be a sign that he was meant to come work on the trading desk". Did god come down and speak to him?

What is the world coming to...

I love how she says

I’m good at finding mistakes in articles, spreadsheets, and programming codes and I’m able to grab key information from financial statements. I always double check my work in order to guarantee there is no mistake.

Not only are there a lot of grammar mistakes in the presentation, there is one on this slide.

Nobody noticed that first ("tailored")part of her email is Arial 10 while 2nd part is TNR 12... ?

Copy/Paste => DING!

Whoa this kid is making us asians look bad.. studying in BLCU was fun though

Normally I am not fast to judge others; however, the grammatical errors are killing me.

word to the wise...NEVER bone an Asian finance chick...it's like fucking tickle me elmo while trying to park a truck into a parking space not big enough for a tricycle with one thousand pairs of fucking ugg boots standing guard

I understood all of that except the ugg boots part.

Yeah, but then Jamie admitted that that was really good question. JPM also fucked itself with the contract to acquire Bear by guaranteeing the trades for a year with no escape clause......it allowed the equity holders to keep voting the acquisition down until the offer price went up and JPM would be on the hook for all its trades........I read Last Man Standing as well...interesting read.

I kind of feel bad for this girl, seeing how hard she's trying.

I grew up in Asia and went to college in the US so I can kind of understand her lack of social skills. Most of the kids here, especially the ones who do well in school work their asses off and don't really have extra curricular activities, other than the ones they force themselves to do so that they look good on paper. So since they study so much, and don't get out a lot the social skills are a little under developed. I know compared to my work load in secondary school (high school), college was really a piece of cake.

So when someone comes along and says you have to be proactive, this is the unfortunate result. I'm pretty sure she's exceedingly intelligent and will be willing to work harder than most people, but someone just needs to take her out for a good bang and teach her some social skills (and english).

I can't believe you pulled out the Zero Wing reference. Thank you Edmundo, it seems some good did come out of this chick's super-awesomeness presentation. I love you long time

While I commend her for her efforts in trying to differentiate herself, it really does come off as a bit smarmy and very try-hard. Also, it's hard to believe that recruiters at banks like Citi and BAML (which receive thousands of applications) have more than a few seconds if not minutes to waste on an poorly-written 11 page presentation.

I could tell right away just by reading those slides, that she was Chinese (as in from mainland China, not North American born). Having gone through an undergrad program that had its fair share of FOB Asians, I can attest to the awkwardness with which they approach recruitment.

In my last year of school, I had already accepted an offer and while waiting for class to start one day, I was cornered by a lower year Chinese girl interrogating me on what I did to get the job, what social clubs I was part of, what courses I took, what my grades were etc. If that wasn't unsettling enough, she actually had a notepad pulled out ready to write down my responses!

I got this forwarded to me via e-mail, and it had the name of the HR woman who I guess must have passed on the e-mail that this girl sent her. Do you guys know if there are ever any ramifications for the HR people who forward stuff like this around? I don't feel bad for this girl at all because she seems like a gigantic tool, but doesn't HR worry about getting fired for sending this stuff around to people outside the bank?

Cut the girl some slack... she went to 北京语言大学 in 2009. 北京语言大学! Kind of a big deal!

Ok kidding aside, I copy/pasted that from her FB profile and have no idea what it says, but it shows she's only been in North America for 1-2 years, English obviously isn't her strong suit. Hell, it says a lot that she did well on CFA Level 2 considering how much reading comprehension is involved for ethics and how tricky some of the wording is.

She has an open wall and one of her recent status updates was "How to learn American slangs?"

Feel bad for the girl.... the slideshow is brutal, but still...

Beijing yu yan daxue---Beijing Language and Culture University.....one of the best language universities in the country.

Anyone check her blog? http://wenfengwang.blogspot.com/

I can't believe some of these kids...

I studied Chinese in college and would NEVER send out something in Chinese without having it vetted extremely thoroughly by a native speaker.

I have no doubt her English is better than my Chinese, but there is no excuse for not having someone with native fluency read over something you've written in your second language WHEN IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS YOU HAVE EXCELLENT ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND LIKE CORRECTING DOCUMENTS.

Not to mention the shoddy and unprofessional production of the whole presentation.

I played the all your base are belong to us video and left it on while reading this post, now that the song ended and I have reached the bottom of this post. I feel like my life is missing something.

OK nevermind the base base base thing comes back.

"So when someone comes along and says you have to be proactive, this is the unfortunate result. I'm pretty sure she's exceedingly intelligent and will be willing to work harder than most people, but someone just needs to take her out for a good bang and teach her some social skills (and english)."

I will do it, for this sake of their well - being.

Must I resort to lame tactics like this to get noticed? I feel like I have a stronger profile but can't seem to land any interviews...

Do people like this succeed in finance, or even the business world in general? I recently left an Econ PhD program, and we had several Chinese students like this (fairly intelligent and hardworking, but a lack of basic social skills). I always assumed that students like this didn't even apply for many private sector jobs, and instead just opted for the PhD/academic route as many of my classmates did. I always assumed that they'd have a hard time succeeding in the business world, despite their intelligence and work ethic.

I cannot believe anyone in here is defending her in the least and making excuses for her behavior. Shit is disgraceful.

haha nah bro...I mean a few Sapporo and I'd be good to go

Plus she would probably love me long time

face palm How did she think this would be a good idea?

5 beers.

The following is taken from her blog. I can't believe none of you brainiacs have figured out that pa-pa is clearly a high ranking member of the CCP and that this is no different than G-Dub getting a country to run for 4-to-8. Just look at this shit:

Motivation: 1). Influence capital markets (strategies munipulation) 2). Satisfy contractual provisions (high earning, high bonus)

Mechanisms to deter strategic manipulation 1). Independent audit 2). BOD: audit committee and internal auditors 3). Certification by senior management: CEO and CFO must certify the financial statements 4). Class action litigation: Lawsuits 5). Regulators 6). General market scrutiny: journalists, analyst...

Forgot #7...death to enemy of revolution by firing squad.

her background isnt even impressive, it seems that she couldn't secure PWC for full time audit But shes original, if she gets in it gives me lots of hope(non target)

Haha welcome to Wash U man. Get those WU-goggles on, and you're good to go.

why is she applying to become an analyst out of b school? i have never heard of that

I've sent pitchbooks to CEOs before--but they had substance and data to solve their problems. Presented in a very clean, Mary Meeker MS style. That got interviews.

This presentation was only circulated because it's laughable. I'm really sorry for Chinese applicants everywhere.

You don't have your #1 slide as a bunch of words without any meaning. And please have judicious use of articles or "Eats, shoots, and leaves."

The bamboo is very face-palm.

Three things:

1. Culture
2. Lack of Tact

3. BLCU is not BFSU (the target)

4. The job climate is extremely competitive with top grads from Peking University and Tsinghua rounding out at 8,000 RMB at McKinsey/Bain & Co. Beijing. That's a little more than a 1,200 USD (SAs get that a week). Same hours.

It's rote memory all the way because of their bac. exam, the "Gao-Kao." It's the high school exam that determines their life, much like Korea's SKY and Japan's Todai/Waseda obsession. They don't get second chances, just like how Nomura isn't going to a non-target in Tokyo.

Competitiveness, desperation, lack of tact and Western manners.

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2. Story:

I've done a favor correcting a resume for a friend's friend's ex-boyfriend. We call the friend's friend "hairy armpits" because she doesn't shave and has a habit of stroking her armpit hair.

I highlighted the changes in red, put suggestions in the margin, turned on track changes.

The friend's friend: "Can you just do it?"

10 min later, the resume's owner sends a cover letter to me. I have to correct this one now?

No tact. It didn't help that the subject line was: "Get this American guy to correct this after he's done." Fwd-ed to me.

Dude's subject line: "Fwd: 你让美国人有空帮我改改cover letter" BCG. I emailed all my Beijing friends about a BCG opening.

--To avoid embarrassing Chinese everywhere, you need tact. Tact, tact, tact.

3. Getting into PwC/Deloitte China is not hot. I've been shown around the office by a Partner. It's a sweatshop. So kids who can grind out work--get hired.

We had 3 girls hiding in the ladies bathroom at the ad agency where I worked. They wanted interviews/second chances. Crashing info sessions is one thing but hiding in the bathroom?

I corrected a lot of Chinglish in press releases, even at the executive level. This is pretty common. Just as using Babelfish for French 4 in high school, and then having it all in feminine. It's rare to have colloquial English (they all learn the Brit way). It's your opportunity to bring impeccable buddy-buddy English to Asia.

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The ppt is really embarassing. But when you can't get Visa sponsorship to stay in the US after your MSF or when you got 70,000 debt USD and a 8,000 RMB job back in China (/6.8)--you'd insert the bamboo pix too.

That's the deal in China. Advice: Work in HK and Singapore.

There's a GPA in Chinese schools? Really? And GPA for grad programs are inflated.

Still feel bad for her.

Does anyone have the original email chain?