im still in college but i was talking with an analyst at CS about this today and while he didnt give specific examples, he said the worst thing an SA do is try to act like hot shots by speaking up in meetings, or take way too long on an easy project, or be too quiet and not socialize with their peers.
i know that doesnt directly answer your question, but if youre trying to figure out what NOT to do then i would say all of the above.
Wiping out 3 days of an associates work on a model by saving a blank spreadsheet over it. Don't do it.
I smell some bullshit. Even middle markets have some concept of version control.
Don't believe it if you don't want to. There was only one version of the file with the latest work. To get that specific file back, we would have had to contact the IT department to pull it from the backup servers. That would have required an email from someone at the director level approving the request. The associate was not interested in getting the director involved because he felt the director would blame him for letting the SA screw up the file. The work was redone.
Eventually, he did not get an offer, but this was just one of the reasons.
He would also just leave in the early evening without asking the full-timers whether they needed help with anything. That was probably the biggest reason he was not offered a FT position.
However, he came from a top 10 school and received a FT offer from another top BB at the end of the summer.
Yeah, I call BS on that too...my bank saves and archives file versions by the hour going back a few days. I did something like that once and just pulled up the version in the server from an hour before and saved that back over.
Last summer we were all out at a bar after work grabbing drinks when someone pointed out a full-time analyst (male)aggressively (best word to describe it) making out with an intern (female). Not surprisingly, some HR issues surfaced a few weeks later and it didn't end well for either of them.
year before I did my internship, at the same bank, one of the summers replied to that infamous email from Lucy "That wasn't a serious email, I was only kidding" Gao at Citi...HR were not happy and he didn't get an offer
One SA in our class sent a reply all email to an event reminder from one of the HR employees who oversaw the SA program. Essentially the email said that "every time you send an email out it is marked with a flame for urgency...the reminder about the Yankee game next Tuesday was not urgent."
Then, another SA sent a reply all email praising the HR for how much she had done for us throughout the summer. The second SA had spelled the bank's name incorrectly in her signature and this was the 8th week of 10. It had been wrong all summer. Neither were ever heard from again.
When I was an SA at a firm. One of the events planned for us was the CFO of the company coming to speak to our division of SAs as part of a breakfast series of speakers.
At the end of the speaking it was an open Q&A session for us (essentially mandatory for us to ask good questions) and one of the SAs raises his hand and asks a question about whether the prop traders could conduct insider trading based on recommendations from research analysts.
Needless to say he was never seen again, and all SAs afterwards were required to write down questions and submit them to the HR personnel beforehand.
im still in college but i
im still in college but i was talking with an analyst at CS about this today and while he didnt give specific examples, he said the worst thing an SA do is try to act like hot shots by speaking up in meetings, or take way too long on an easy project, or be too quiet and not socialize with their peers.
i know that doesnt directly answer your question, but if youre trying to figure out what NOT to do then i would say all of the above.
Wiping out 3 days of an
Wiping out 3 days of an associates work on a model by saving a blank spreadsheet over it. Don't do it.
don't beat up your MD.
don't beat up your MD. that's the biggest screw up.
cursing accidentally in
cursing accidentally in front of a client is hilarious, but also really bad, i saw this happen firsthand.
How the hell?
Wiping out 3 days of an associates work on a model by saving a blank spreadsheet over it. Don't do it.
You might as well buy a one-way ticket home after that.
How the hell do you do that anyway?
How the hell?
Wiping out 3 days of an associates work on a model by saving a blank spreadsheet over it. Don't do it.
You might as well buy a one-way ticket home after that.
How the hell do you do that anyway?
zip: My BB had an autosave
zip:
My BB had an autosave by date for each saved version to prevent this...AKA you'd have to be really stupid to have this happen.
Guessing the poor dude didn't get an FT offer haha
sleeping during a client
sleeping during a client meeting
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Wiping out 3 days of an associates work on a model by saving a blank spreadsheet over it. Don't do it.
I smell some bullshit. Even middle markets have some concept of version control.
Hook up with an associate
Hook up with an associate
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Wiping out 3 days of an associates work on a model by saving a blank spreadsheet over it. Don't do it.
I smell some bullshit. Even middle markets have some concept of version control.
Don't believe it if you don't want to. There was only one version of the file with the latest work. To get that specific file back, we would have had to contact the IT department to pull it from the backup servers. That would have required an email from someone at the director level approving the request. The associate was not interested in getting the director involved because he felt the director would blame him for letting the SA screw up the file. The work was redone.
Eventually, he did not get an offer, but this was just one of the reasons.
He would also just leave in the early evening without asking the full-timers whether they needed help with anything. That was probably the biggest reason he was not offered a FT position.
However, he came from a top 10 school and received a FT offer from another top BB at the end of the summer.
Yeah, I call BS on that
Yeah, I call BS on that too...my bank saves and archives file versions by the hour going back a few days. I did something like that once and just pulled up the version in the server from an hour before and saved that back over.
Don't do this
Okay it's not banking but a good story anyway . . .
a few years back my girlfriend was a summer associate at a law firm there was an email going around describing an incident in the LA office.
It seems that one of the summers got pretty drunk at a firm event and agressively pursued an associates girlfriend.
When the associate politely tried to intervene to help the guy out, the summer threatened to "fucking kill" him.
I don't think he even made it to the end of the summer.
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Hook up with an associate
Last summer we were all out at a bar after work grabbing drinks when someone pointed out a full-time analyst (male)aggressively (best word to describe it) making out with an intern (female). Not surprisingly, some HR issues surfaced a few weeks later and it didn't end well for either of them.
year before I did my
year before I did my internship, at the same bank, one of the summers replied to that infamous email from Lucy "That wasn't a serious email, I was only kidding" Gao at Citi...HR were not happy and he didn't get an offer
Telling off the "warm and fuzzy" HR people
One SA in our class sent a reply all email to an event reminder from one of the HR employees who oversaw the SA program. Essentially the email said that "every time you send an email out it is marked with a flame for urgency...the reminder about the Yankee game next Tuesday was not urgent."
Then, another SA sent a reply all email praising the HR for how much she had done for us throughout the summer. The second SA had spelled the bank's name incorrectly in her signature and this was the 8th week of 10. It had been wrong all summer. Neither were ever heard from again.
Asking Dumb Questions at Speaker Events
When I was an SA at a firm. One of the events planned for us was the CFO of the company coming to speak to our division of SAs as part of a breakfast series of speakers.
At the end of the speaking it was an open Q&A session for us (essentially mandatory for us to ask good questions) and one of the SAs raises his hand and asks a question about whether the prop traders could conduct insider trading based on recommendations from research analysts.
Needless to say he was never seen again, and all SAs afterwards were required to write down questions and submit them to the HR personnel beforehand.