Duke vs Queen's Commerce

Advice on where to go? Cost is a minimal factor, although I did win a major Chancellor's scholarship at QC.

Duke unfortunately releases minimal statistics. I can see that it is recruited well (GS, etc. in top employers, high % into finance) but can anyone guesstimate, or even better have insider info of, the actual number of BB and top consulting jobs (Bain, McKinsey, etc) Duke grads normally get?

It's really hard comparing Duke to my other option, Queen's University's Commerce, where at least they release concrete evidence of some top placements.

 

Duke. I'm a big defender of Canada on this site but Duke is great school and I'd even take it over Ivey which places significantly better than QC. Congrats.

‎"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars."
 

Duke. Seriously. Also, the Career Center linked me this earlier in the year. Prob helpful to you. GS is #2 employer, MS, BoA, etc. all appear often.

And on a personal note, I do not know a single one of my friends (I'm a junior at Duke) who has an internship in the Back Office, so it's not like these numbers are false for what you want. It seems that everyone wants to do IB here (like every Econ major and other majors too) and it's a top 10 college in the U.S.

Not to be annoying, but I obviously live in the U.S. and I have never heard of Queens' College. Not saying it's a bad school (may even be great for Canada IBD recruiting), but Duke>Queens. Especially if $$$$ isn't an issue. (But their FinAid is great btw.)

http://www.studentaffairs.duke.edu/career/stats

Reality hits you hard, bro...
 

Thanks Solidarity. Would I be at a disadvantage for employment if I returned to Canada after graduating from Duke?

Is there a significant benefit of having NYC over Toronto, if it is the same job working for the same major employer? What about consulting, where there is so much traveling anyways?

 

I feel that even if you want to return to Canada, getting an American degree (from a great school BTW) would be great for 1) the experience and 2) the opportunities afterwards.

I know more than a few Canadians who did 1-2 years in NY and returned to Canada afterwards. They all talk positively about the experience from a career perspective.

 

yup, American degrees tend to have more clout. This is true for other countries as well (i.e. 1-2 yrs in NYC--> Hong Kong, Sydney, etc). They actually prefer NYC experience first.

It's also easier leveraging offers from NYC to other locations. A friend from Ivey/McGill/UT who summered at BarCap in NYC easily landed offers at GS Toronto and Evercore NYC. It's worth it.

 

My first job would be to GET that NYC job from someone actually willing to sponsor an international D:

But would the Duke career services/fairs/OCR be helpful in getting a job in Canada from GS, BarCap etc. right after graduation? Or would missing out on the Canadian OCR leave me miles behind for a Canadian job?

 
Best Response

I congratulate you for being on top of your shit and applying to both Duke and Queen's. When I was in high school, not myself or any of my friends thought about applying to Duke. Some went to other top US schools but not a place like Duke.

The point is your going to get a great education, better recruiting than anywhere in Canada, REAL college sports, tons of hot drunk girls. Overall the package Duke offers no school in Canada could match from academic and student life perspective.

Now just be smart enough to accept Duke and enjoy your next 4 years.

I would not make college decisions based on visa issues, if Ivey/Queen's kids still getting jobs in NYC this year (which they are). Coming from Duke you will have an advantage over any other Canadian.

 
bankforyourbuck:
StarsAligned:
Thank you so much everyone! I'm officially a Blue Devil :)

That's sick dude. Wish I applied to American schools/new about investment banking in high school. Good luck.

Seeing as how you're at UofT and not at Ivey or Queen's, you wouldn't have gotten into American schools anyways. so your "wish" is not even a hindsight. Just a fantasy.

 
bankforyourbuck:
StarsAligned:
Thank you so much everyone! I'm officially a Blue Devil :)

That's sick dude. Wish I applied to American schools/knew about investment banking in high school. Good luck.

Thanks bro! :D And ignore the haters ; )

 
God of the Orient:
I call troll. Nobody in their right mind would ask "DUKE VS QC". Especially not someone who got accepted to Duke.

+1.

Clearly a troll. The QC first year curriculum involves learning how to send a fu*king email and dicking around with investopedia.

I win here, I win there...
 

you better go to Queen's if you got the scholarship... why the fuck would you waste your time applying for it if you weren't 100% sure you wanted to go there already? Now thats $36,000 wasted that could have gone to a kid who didn't get the scholarship but is quite deserving and grateful.

 
bankster:
you better go to Queen's if you got the scholarship... why the fuck would you waste your time applying for it if you weren't 100% sure you wanted to go there already? Now thats $36,000 wasted that could have gone to a kid who didn't get the scholarship but is quite deserving and grateful.

We are talking about Duke vs. Queen's. Not Ivey vs. Queen's or McGill vs. Queen's.

 
bankster:
you better go to Queen's if you got the scholarship... why the fuck would you waste your time applying for it if you weren't 100% sure you wanted to go there already? Now thats $36,000 wasted that could have gone to a kid who didn't get the scholarship but is quite deserving and grateful.
Oh, come off it. I hate that attitude, someone who puts the effort and time into getting the quantitative stats and qualitative aspects of an application for anything down well enough to earn them an offer (be it admission to a college, a scholarship offer, an internship offer, or full-time placement) damn well deserves whatever it was because simply they earned it. Their candidacy was better than yours or whoever else's, plain and simple.

It's just like how the same best kids field offers from multiple banks while a lot of others struggle to find any. If they're good enough, they deserve it. Don't shit on someone because they wanted to make sure they had at least one option and wound up with multiple.

I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
 

Thanks A Posse Ad Esse :)

@bankster: how would I have known that I would win the scholarship? How would I have known that I would be accepted to a US university in a year of record-high applications and record-low admission rates? Please be a little more understanding.

 

Sunt tempore tenetur exercitationem aut soluta neque. Voluptatem cum quia modi reiciendis sint. Nobis eligendi molestias consequatur magnam.

Aliquid similique at voluptas non enim et. Laboriosam repudiandae dolorum ullam.

Quod recusandae non voluptas ut sint reiciendis. Saepe ut qui recusandae impedit est.

 

Voluptatum possimus expedita non est hic sunt ducimus. Qui possimus aut quidem id. Cum perferendis optio qui alias est earum. Quidem fuga voluptatem ut cum facere nihil cupiditate est. Velit magni et molestiae in tempora libero atque. Repellat quia voluptate modi maxime recusandae.

Earum est id autem recusandae saepe aut sed. Facere corporis dolore quibusdam optio quasi. Debitis praesentium et quibusdam at.

Voluptatem ipsa natus omnis quis autem voluptatem sint. Cumque aspernatur voluptatem nulla. Ratione odit expedita totam magnam et voluptas. Exercitationem dignissimos eum atque cupiditate. Molestiae nihil quia dolores velit possimus est similique. Id nulla illo fugit voluptates voluptatem. Atque atque incidunt temporibus iusto est eum. Sint officia aut quidem dicta sint et maxime enim.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
6
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
7
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”