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unknown4ever
     
 
(Orangutan, 324
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 11:37am

Israel is ready to strike....what do u guys think?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240529702044...

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Seems to me like the

bossman
      O
 
(Gorilla, 746
 
Points)
 on 1/15/12 at 12:40pm

Seems to me like the diplomats are slowly fueling the fire themselves...I still don't get the notion of why Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons to protect itself (you don't need them for protection though) and Iran is not. A smart solution (if the world were fair) would be to ask Israel to stop its nuclear program and then pressure Iran to do the same and allow the international community strict monitoring of its facilities. Nuclear weapons are there to flex muscles, which i bet will eventually lead to war. I understand Iran is supposedly our enemy, but really they are no threat to us and I believe that if Israel had no nuclear weapons to flex their muscles, Iran would have less incentive to have them as well.

Do what you want not what you can!

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BeastMode's picture

Maybe because if Israel had

BeastMode
      AM
 
(Baboon, 163
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 1:05pm

Maybe because if Israel had no nukes then all of the psycho leaders in the Middle East would get together and destroy it. How can you say Iran is no threat to us if they had nukes? Their leaders have a screw loose. Not something I want to leave to chance.

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bossman wrote: Seems to me

yl715
     
 
(Chimp, 11
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 1:26pm
bossman:

Seems to me like the diplomats are slowly fueling the fire themselves...I still don't get the notion of why Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons to protect itself (you don't need them for protection though) and Iran is not. A smart solution (if the world were fair) would be to ask Israel to stop its nuclear program and then pressure Iran to do the same and allow the international community strict monitoring of its facilities. Nuclear weapons are there to flex muscles, which i bet will eventually lead to war. I understand Iran is supposedly our enemy, but really they are no threat to us and I believe that if Israel had no nuclear weapons to flex their muscles, Iran would have less incentive to have them as well.

Moral equivalence, the kind of stuff you only hear from a moron. Iran has threatened to wipe Israel of the planet- it is led by religious fanatics. Israel acquiring nuclear weapons = Iran? What world do you live in?

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yl715 wrote: Iran has

Otter.
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(Gorilla, 556
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 1:40pm
yl715:

Iran has threatened to wipe Israel of the planet- it is led by religious fanatics.

In case you haven't been reading the news lately - so is Israel.

Hi, Eric Stratton, rush chairman, damn glad to meet you.

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Febreeze's picture

israel doesn't have oil = on

Febreeze
     
 
(King Kong, 1,151
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 1:45pm

israel doesn't have oil = on the same side as us

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Otter. wrote: yl715

swagon
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(Neanderthal, 2,973
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 1:47pm
Otter.:
yl715:

Iran has threatened to wipe Israel of the planet- it is led by religious fanatics.

In case you haven't been reading the news lately - so is Israel.

The point is, Israel is the one sponsoring terrorism.

Oh wait.

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bossman wrote: I still don't

swagon
      EN
 
(Neanderthal, 2,973
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 1:59pm
bossman:

I still don't get the notion of why Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons to protect itself (you don't need them for protection though) and Iran is not. A smart solution (if the world were fair) would be to ask Israel to stop its nuclear program and then pressure Iran to do the same and allow the international community strict monitoring of its facilities.

Yes, every country in the world deserves to be treated equally! Because all countries, after all, behave the same. Duh! It's so simple!

All US citizens should be treated the same. If you violently threaten someone, that someone can't ask for a restraining order...because that'd be treating someone unfairly.

Countries like Iran are mature and reasonable participants in the world community exactly like every other country. They don't sponsor terrorism, either, so that's good. It's not fair that they should be treated or viewed differently JUST because of ties to Hezbollah, Hamas.

I think we should reason with the Iranian government. It sympathizes with people that blow themselves up, but I'm sure Iran will come to its senses at some point.

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Otter. wrote: yl715

dublin
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(Gorilla, 684
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 2:33pm
Otter.:
yl715:

Iran has threatened to wipe Israel of the planet- it is led by religious fanatics.

In case you haven't been reading the news lately - so is Israel.

True. But religious fanatics in Israel try to gender-segregate buses, not annihilate millions of people. I'm as opposed to the former as the next guy, but I think the latter is more necessitating of military intervention.

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bossman wrote: Seems to me

mb666
      VC
 
 
(Gorilla, 687
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 2:52pm
bossman:

Seems to me like the diplomats are slowly fueling the fire themselves...I still don't get the notion of why Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons to protect itself (you don't need them for protection though) and Iran is not. A smart solution (if the world were fair) would be to ask Israel to stop its nuclear program and then pressure Iran to do the same and allow the international community strict monitoring of its facilities. Nuclear weapons are there to flex muscles, which i bet will eventually lead to war. I understand Iran is supposedly our enemy, but really they are no threat to us and I believe that if Israel had no nuclear weapons to flex their muscles, Iran would have less incentive to have them as well.

+ 1... SB

And Israel is not a member of the non-proliferation treaty either.

Israel is the #1 recipient of US aid closely followed by Egypt. Both countries hate one another and use the money to purchase weapons = US arming enemies.

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BeastMode & yl715, -

mb666
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(Gorilla, 687
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 3:08pm

BeastMode & yl715,

- Admenajad's comments about Israel have been exaggerated and misinterpreted (he said so himself). Just google the subject and you'll see subjective interpretations of the imperfect translation. Even so if I were to say that the Giants were going to kill the Packers today I obviously don't mean it in the literal sense.

- Pakistan has threatened to nuke India.
- North Korea has threatened to nuke South Korea.
- China has threatened to nuke Taiwan if it continues to pursue succession.

For these latter points I don't see the US military getting too engaged in those matters. Otherwise we should've invaded Pakistan, North Korea or China by now right?

Iran is not the aggressor, the US is. In 1953 the US CIA helped overthrow a DEMOCRATICALLY elected government of Iran and installed a fundamental religious, military government, authoritarian Shah. Half a century later we have blowback. Our CIA also put Saddam Hussein in power and even helped Osama bin Laden during Afghanistan's war with the Soviet Union. What has that achieved? Let's stop meddling in the middle east.

The US operates under the guise of "democracy spreading" to pursue it's own imperialist interests in the middle east.

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I think Iran isn't as crazy

MMBinNC
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 on 1/15/12 at 3:11pm

I think Iran isn't as crazy as some of the pols make it out to be. I would rather them not have a nuke, but I see why they want one. It is 100% assurance that they will not be invaded. Libya- gone, Iraq- gone, but the U.S.S.R...never actually attacked. It would probably be wiser to remove all nukes from Israel and have the U.S. say "This is our ally, if you attack her, we will come at you with our full force". But having Israel armed with a ton of nukes is a huge spark for that area- even though I like Netanyahu, I think that Iranians see Netanyahu as we see Ahmadinejad. Right now we have the yoke on Israel- so they won't do anything rash- but the U.S. pulls back...watch out!

Reality hits you hard, bro...

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mb666 wrote: Iran is not the

swagon
      EN
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 3:37pm
mb666:

Iran is not the aggressor

Of course not. The terrorists they support are.

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The way I see it, the Middle

West Coast rainmaker
      ER
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,072
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 4:01pm

The way I see it, the Middle East is basically the Balkans pre-World War 1. It is an incomprehensible web of social, ethnic, and political divides. We cannot play referee indefinitely. There will be an inciting incident that results in a large scale conflict, either by a state or non-state actor.

The best we can do, from the perspective of self-interest, is stay out. Maybe funnel resources to Israel and other democratic interests, but otherwise stay out. If we get involved in any international conflict over there, the US will be the target of any resentment for decades to come.

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swagon wrote: mb666

mb666
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(Gorilla, 687
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 4:19pm
swagon:
mb666:

Iran is not the aggressor

Of course not. The terrorists they support are.

Which ones?

With regards to Hezbollah even American Congressmen can't agree whether it is a terrorist organization or a resistance movement. Hezbollah actually condemned 9/11 and they deny any attacks. Even so let's say Iran funds Hezbollah... what's so different w/ our CIA going into other countries and f*king with their sovereign affairs? Both countries are meddling outside their jurisdiction right?

Talking about terrorists, 15 out of the 19 of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Osama bin Laden is Saudi too. I see more of a Saudi link with terrorism than I do with Iran and yet we are buddies with the Saudis.

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West Coast rainmaker

mb666
      VC
 
 
(Gorilla, 687
 
Points)
 on 1/15/12 at 4:18pm
West Coast rainmaker:

The way I see it, the Middle East is basically the Balkans pre-World War 1. It is an incomprehensible web of social, ethnic, and political divides. We cannot play referee indefinitely. There will be an inciting incident that results in a large scale conflict, either by a state or non-state actor.

The best we can do, from the perspective of self-interest, is stay out. Maybe funnel resources to Israel and other democratic interests, but otherwise stay out. If we get involved in any international conflict over there, the US will be the target of any resentment for decades to come.

Good analysis.

As I wrote earlier we've already been involved for half a century... and now we have blowback (i.e. 9/11)... hostility with some countries.

Let's not forget that we overthrew Iran's democratic government and installed the Shah, we helped Saddam Hussein rise to power and we funded Osama bin Laden during the Soviet Union-Afghan war. Result = blowback.

Diplomacy/Trade > War/Violence/Manipulation/Embargoes

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mb666 wrote: swagon

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 on 1/15/12 at 4:56pm
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we should definitely stop

Febreeze
     
 
(King Kong, 1,151
 
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 on 1/15/12 at 5:04pm

RIP WSO Chat.

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http://www.deccanherald.com/c

Working9-5
      ST
 
(Gorilla, 613
 
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 on 1/16/12 at 8:17am

CNBC sucks

"This financial crisis is worse than a divorce. I've lost all my money, but the wife is still here." - Client after getting blown up

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swagon wrote: mb666

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 on 1/16/12 at 12:11pm

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
http://www.troll.me/images/red-foreman322/dont-you...

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^ Those who fail to learn

mb666
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 on 1/16/12 at 12:24pm
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mb666 wrote: ^ Those who fail

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 on 1/16/12 at 12:51pm

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
http://www.troll.me/images/red-foreman322/dont-you...

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We might as well bomb Iran

TNA
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(Human, 13,533
 
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 on 1/16/12 at 12:57pm

MSF Website
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MSF Twitter

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Earning season and all, give

TNA
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 on 1/16/12 at 12:58pm

MSF Website
MACC Website
MSF Twitter

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UFOinsider wrote: mb666

mb666
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ANT wrote: Earning season and

mb666
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oil

Febreeze
     
 
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RIP WSO Chat.

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mb666 wrote: War should be

UFOinsider
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 on 1/17/12 at 10:51am

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
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mb666 wrote: BeastMode &

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 on 1/17/12 at 12:21pm

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

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The only reason Israel is

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UFOinsider wrote: mb666

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UFOinsider, How is this

mb666
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 on 1/17/12 at 7:49pm
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mb666 wrote: UFOinsider, How

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trazer985 wrote: mb666

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 on 1/18/12 at 10:20am

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

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trazer985 wrote: mb666

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mb666 wrote: Who has Iran

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 on 1/18/12 at 11:02am

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
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Position:

mb666
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mb666, do you believe the

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 on 1/18/12 at 11:43am

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
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Those of you who believe we

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mb666 wrote: ...Iran hasn't

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 on 1/18/12 at 12:04pm

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
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TheKid1 wrote: Those of you

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
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TheKid1 wrote: Those of you

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mb666 wrote: TheKid1

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 on 1/18/12 at 4:18pm

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

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cphbravo96 wrote: TheKid1

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TheKid1 wrote: cphbravo96

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan

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cphbravo96 wrote: mb666

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cphbravo96 wrote: TheKid1

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Jerome Marrow wrote: You are

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
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cphbravo96 wrote: Jerome

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TheKid1 wrote: cphbravo96

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
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You don't want to invade

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Web Site Security Rules. Users are prohibited from violating or attempting to violate the security of the Web Site, including, without limitation, (a) accessing data not intended for such user or logging into a server or account which the user is not authorized to access, (b) attempting to probe, scan or test the vulnerability of a system or network or to breach security or authentication measures without proper authorization, (c) attempting to interfere with service to any user, host or network, including, without limitation, via means of submitting a virus to the Web Site, overloading, "flooding", "spamming", "mailbombing" or "crashing", (d) sending unsolicited e-mail, including promotions and/or advertising of products or services, or (e) forging any TCP/IP packet header or any part of the header information in any e-mail. Violations of system or network security may result in civil or criminal liability. The Company will investigate occurrences which may involve such violations and may involve, and cooperate with, law enforcement authorities in prosecuting users who are involved in such violations.

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The Company specifically prohibits any use of the Web Site, and all users agree not to use the Web Site, for any of the following:

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  • Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained herein, using or attempting to use any engine, software, tool, agent or other device or mechanism (including without limitation browsers, spiders, robots, avatars or intelligent agents) to navigate or search this Web Site other than the search engine and search agents available from the Company on this Web Site and other than generally available third party web browsers (e.g., Netscape Navigator, Microsoft Explorer).
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  • Aggregating, copying or duplicating in any manner any of the materials or information available from the Web Site.
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User Information.

When you register for the Web Site, you will be asked to provide the Company with certain information including, without limitation, a valid email address (your "Information"). In addition to the terms and conditions that may be set forth in any privacy policy on this Web Site, you understand and agree that the Company may disclose to third parties, on an anonymous basis, certain aggregate information contained in your registration application. The Company reserves the right to offer third party services and products to you based on the preferences that you identify in your registration and at any time thereafter; such offers may be made by the Company or by third parties. Please see the Company's Privacy Policy below for further details regarding your Information.

Registration and Password.

You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your information and password. You shall be responsible for all uses of your registration, whether or not authorized by you. You agree to immediately notify the Company of any unauthorized use of your registration or password.

The Company's Liability.

As a condition to your use of this site, you release the Company (and our agents and employees) from claims, demands and damages (actual and consequential, direct and indirect) of every kind and nature, known and unknown, suspected and unsuspected, disclosed and undisclosed, arising out of or in any way connected with such disputes. If you are a California resident, you waive California Civil Code d1542, which says: "A general release does not extend to claims which the creditor does not know or suspect to exist in his favor at the time of executing the release, which if known by him must have materially affected his settlement with the debtor."

We are under no legal obligation to, and generally do not, control the information provided by other users which is made available through the Web Site. By its very nature, other people?s information may be offensive, harmful or inaccurate, and in some cases will be mislabeled or deceptively labeled. We expect that you will use caution and common sense when using this Web Site.

The Material may contain inaccuracies or typographical errors. The Company makes no representations about the accuracy, reliability, completeness, or timeliness of the Web Site or the Material. The use of the Web Site and the Material is at your own risk. Changes are periodically made to the Web Site and may be made at any time.

You acknowledge and agree that you are solely responsible for the content and accuracy of any resume or material contained therein placed by you on the Web Site and you agree to let any users that are identified as recruiters (designated in the sole discretion of the Company) to have access to your resume.

The Company is not to be considered to be an employer with respect to your use of the Web Site and the Company shall not be responsible for any employment decisions, for whatever reason made, made by any entity posting jobs on the Web Site.

THE COMPANY DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE WEB SITE WILL OPERATE ERROR-FREE OR THAT THE WEB SITE AND ITS SERVER ARE FREE OF COMPUTER VIRUSES OR OTHER HARMFUL MECHANISMS. IF YOUR USE OF THE WEB SITE OR THE MATERIAL RESULTS IN THE NEED FOR SERVICING OR REPLACING EQUIPMENT OR DATA, THE COMPANY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE COSTS.

THE WEB SITE AND MATERIAL ARE PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" BASIS WITHOUT ANY WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND. THE COMPANY, TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT. THE COMPANY MAKES NO WARRANTIES ABOUT THE ACCURACY, RELIABILITY, COMPLETENESS, OR TIMELINESS OF THE MATERIAL, SERVICES, SOFTWARE, TEXT, GRAPHICS, AND LINKS.

Disclaimer of Consequential Damages.

IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COMPANY, ITS SUPPLIERS, OR ANY THIRD PARTIES MENTIONED ON THE WEB SITE BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, INCIDENTAL AND CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, LOST PROFITS, OR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM LOST DATA OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) RESULTING FROM THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE WEB SITE AND THE MATERIAL, WHETHER BASED ON WARRANTY, CONTRACT, TORT, OR ANY OTHER LEGAL THEORY, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE COMPANY IS ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

Links to Other Sites.

The Web Site may contain links to third party web sites. These links are provided solely as a convenience to you and not as an endorsement by the Company of the contents on such third-party Web sites. The Company is not responsible for the content of linked third-party sites and does not make any representations regarding the content or accuracy of materials on such third party Web sites. If you decide to access linked third party Web sites, you do so at your own risk.

No Resale or Unauthorized Commercial Use.

You agree not to resell or assign your rights or obligations under these Term of Use. You also agree not to make any unauthorized commercial use of the Web Site.

Limitation of Liability.

The aggregate liability for the Company to you for all claims arising from the use of the Materials is limited to $1.

Termination.

The Company reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to pursue all of its legal remedies, including but not limited to immediate termination of your registration with or ability to access the Web Site and/or any other service provided to you by the Company, upon any breach by you of these Terms and Conditions or if the Company is unable to verify or authenticate any information you submit to the Web Site registration with or ability to access the Web Site.

Indemnity.

You agree to defend, indemnify, and hold harmless the Company, its officers, directors, employees and agents, from and against any claims, actions or demands, including without limitation reasonable legal and accounting fees, alleging or resulting from your use of the Material or your breach of the terms of these Terms and Conditions. The Company shall provide notice to you promptly of any such claim, suit, or proceeding and shall assist you, at your expense, in defending any such claim, suit or proceeding.

General.

The Company makes no claims that the Materials may be lawfully viewed or downloaded outside of the United States. Access to the Materials may not be legal by certain persons or in certain countries. If you access the Web Site from outside of the United States, you do so at your own risk and are responsible for compliance with the laws of your jurisdiction. These Terms and conditions are governed by the internal substantive laws of the State of New York, without respect to its conflict of laws principles. Jurisdiction for any claims arising under this agreement shall lie exclusively with the state or federal courts within New York, New York. If any provision of these Terms and Conditions are found to be invalid by any court having competent jurisdiction, the invalidity of such provision shall not affect the validity of the remaining provisions of these Terms and Conditions, which shall remain in full force and effect. No waiver of any term of these Terms and Conditions shall be deemed a further or continuing waiver of such term or any other term. Except as expressly provided in additional terms of use for areas of the Web Site a particular "Legal Notice," or Software License or Material on particular Web pages, these Terms and Conditions constitute the entire agreement between you and the Company with respect to the use of Web Site. No changes to these Terms and Conditions shall be made except by a revised posting on this page.

PRIVACY POLICY

The Company recognizes that you are concerned about privacy. We are committed to preserving your privacy and safeguarding your sensitive information. The following statement describes the general information-gathering and usage practices of our sites.

Our staff, contractors, Internet service providers and others involved in this site follow this policy or similarly strict policies regarding your Information.

Disclosure

The Company is committed to fully disclosing our policies regarding the collection, use, maintenance, disclosure and security of personal information obtained from users of our site. The term "personal information" includes a name, address, email address, or any other information which could be used to contact you directly or to identify you personally.

Use and Disclosure Limitations

The Company only uses personal information about its Web site users for specific purposes. We do not share user information with third parties except when we have told users about the disclosures, when we have prior consent, or when required by law.

Use Policy: When the Company gathers personal information from users, we ask for permission first. We also disclose, at the time of collection, how the information will be used by us. Personal information is used for activities such as auto-completion of commonly-used forms and helping us contact you when you solicit information from us.

Disclosure Policy: We do not normally disclose personal information to anyone outside of the Company unless we have previously informed users about the disclosures. However, some data may be used from time to time by outside contractors, including auditors or consultants, to assist us in carrying out necessary financial or operational activities. These uses will be consistent with this privacy policy and all contractors using this potential personal information must agree to safeguard it, to use it only for the authorized purpose, and to return it or destroy it upon completion of the activity.

The Company might be required to disclose personal information in response to a valid legal process such as a subpoena, search warrant or court order.

Although unlikely, it is possible that we may have to make certain disclosures to ensure the security of our Web site, to protect its integrity, or to take precautions against potential liability. In any of these situations, we will take any reasonable steps to limit the scope of the data disclosed.

Web Logs: The Company maintains standard Web logs that record basic information about visitors to our Web site. These logs contain: * The Internet domain from which you came to our Web site. * Your IP address. An IP address is a series of numbers which uniquely identifies your connection to the Internet. Although it is possible in some instances, certain types of IP addresses may be used by interested persons to identify users but we do not attempt to identify users in this way. * The type of browser (e.g., Internet Explorer or Netscape) and operating system (e.g., Windows 98) you use. * The date and time you visited the site, and the pages you saw.

We use Web log information to design our Web site, identify popular features, and in similar ways. We do not try to identify individuals from Web logs or to link Web logs to other user information. However, if someone tries to damage our Web site or use it in an unauthorized or illegal way, we may share Web log information with law enforcement agencies. The Company may provide aggregate information such as the number of users who visit particular pages of the site, or the number of people who link to certain external sites from our site, to other parties.

Changes to Privacy Policy

The Company's features and services will change over time and our information-gathering practices and policies may also change.

While our philosophy of protecting user information from inappropriate uses and disclosures will not change, this policy will be updated occasionally to include any change that materially affects the collection, maintenance, use, or disclosure of personal information.

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