How do you all deal with anxiety or stress?
Going through a bad moment for university, internship and so on, so Im pretty stressed out with constant anxiety.
How do you guys deal with this?
Going through a bad moment for university, internship and so on, so Im pretty stressed out with constant anxiety.
How do you guys deal with this?
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Drugs
Joint?
Two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.
I take Quaaludes 10-15 times a day for my back pain, Adderall to stay focused, Xanax to take the edge off, pot to mellow me out, cocaine to wake me back up again, and morphine.. well, because it's awesome.
Jerk off, sex, run and movies. If it persists I would echo what LReed wrote, half-xanax bar
Watch Powers of 10, from the 1970s, and realize how insignificant we all are
Imagine you don't get into whatever program you want, you fail your internship, you fail your exam, your friends all abandon you, your find out your girlfriend has been cheating on you since you met. So what, life goes on. You'll find a way. You're probably smarter than most of the kids around you, have some faith in yourself
I would't jerk off, that always made me feel worse, like a spineless loser, but I guess it works for some.
Xanax is great but don't make it a habit.... if you're going into banking life is not necessarily going to get less stressful, so take it from someone who managed stress poorly, you don't want to start bad habits.
Acid, mescaline, and friends can help, but they're time-consuming and may cause you to change you life direction and join a band or live in a cabin in the woods or become Steve Jobs
Also, I like meditation these days
Anxiety appears when stress is not adequately taken care of by coping mechanisms.
Therefore, first identify your stressor. Then, figure out a coping mechanism to deal with it. The inability to deal with stress by coping mechanisms, specifically for anxiety, necessitates a certain type of benzodiazapine, depending on the acuteness of the anxiety. Xanax is the most acute type of benzo and deals with issues like panic attacks, but is largely overprescribed by recreational users getting a fake diagnosis. Valium is at the other end of the spectrum, and is akin to an approaching cloud of anxiety. The half life of valium is long as well.
But, chemical therapy (drugs) are really a crutch to get you through a hard time, then you come off of them at a later point to deal with the source of the issue. Chemical therapy (drugs) are good in a way if you keep repeating the same neurological path of anxiety, which leads your mind to believe that this is the only way to take. Think of your mind and neural pathways as a forest, where the worn paths are the ones you have taken in your mind and the more well trodden ones are the ones you are comfortable taking. They may be the incorrect paths, but you are used to them, and have to find different paths. You feel the maleffects of catastrophizing thoughts (thinking the worst thing will happen - happens to some people) and can't figure out a way to change.
I believe that only in severe cases are drugs a requirement for a lifetime in the class of benzodiazapines. I feel that behavioral therapy can target the source of stressors. You don't need a therapist or psychiatrist for this, but a psychiatrist would be the ultimate professional for behavioral therapy as they do both chemical/behavioral (drugs/talking) vs a therapist who just practices behavioral therapy (talking). But, our true allies in behavioral therapy in life are our friends, family and people we love and trust.
Often, when we meet with people we love and trust, chemicals are released in our mind (oxytocin). These chemicals very healthy for the mind, and at the same time you can just relax and talk to them (you don't even have to talk to them about your issues). But, even if you don't talk to them about your issues, the mind is repairing itself in a way. Proper nutritional health and exercise are very good as well.
Finally, we have THC. Oh, how I love thee. The refusal of the USA to bring this seed of the earth that God has called good to the free market pains my soul. I think THC can replace a lot of benzodiazapines.
In summary, target what is stressing you out and then use your coping mechanisms to resolve it and release your anxiety. Sometimes when I had a really busy schedule and had no time to work out (coping mechanism), I'd just go on the treadmill in my building and run 1 mile as fast as I could and then leave. I feel strongly that hitting max heartbeat or trying to get as close to it as you can (at least once a day) is a great tool for healthy living and the release of anxiety.
Running is proven to release dopamine into the bloodstream, raise your body's temperature, help you manage oxygen more efficiently (which is necessary for feeling more energized) and increases focus. It's the best natural stress manager.
I used to run whenever I needed a break between studying, working, and other parts of my life to get back on track. Do it for sustained periods such as 45 mins to 1 hour and cover 5-6 miles each outing. Just be careful running down hill, stretch, and loosen the hips to avoid putting too much impact on the knees. I got nasty injuries from it, but it could've been avoided for sure.
Also, jerking off or sex is also really good and relaxing lol. Something I personally like is a nice, warm, indulgent cup of coffee because of the stimulating boost, making you feel like you could run through walls. Plus, caffeine from coffee is proven to be good for the heart.
But, just spend time with friends for 1-2 hour in a day. You would need to be strong to pull away, sometimes when it's just about to get good. But, it can help you relax and know where your focus needs to be over a sustained 6-10 hour window, with hanging out acting as a reward.
Yeah, running is great. I hate it sometimes, but it is great.
I started getting into long runs training for the 70.3 Augusta Tri a few years back. I was in Canada at the time taking long runs through the hills on the road for 10-12 miles once a week.
I will never forget the views, the sunrise, the crisp air, and my knees slowly giving out, week after week.
lol, damn.
My knees are fine now, but I just don't run long distances.
Yeah, my knees are in much better shape now, but I too stopped running as much recently. I used to do 5-6 miles twice a week. It helps in the gym too, because it gives you better management of oxygen for heavier lifts, making you feel like stamina is a lot higher.
Ironically, the main reason I felt the need to stop though, was in order to squat haha. Couldn't do those heavy lifts with my knees going out. One time, I almost collapsed because my knees were so sore
Engineering school was as stressful as it gets, especially considering I was a non-traditional student, married, and we had our first child a week before the start to my junior year in electrical engineering school.
I was still young back then, so I could still run like the wind, which I did. There were two avenues to relieve my anxiety in my 20s: exercise or Jack Daniels. The latter of the two cost a lot more money. Plus, I never got in a fight with my bride, or anyone else, because I went out and exercised. I never woke up after a night of exercise feeling like my eyeballs were on fire and my gut feeling like I'd swallowed battery acid. I never woke up after a night of exercising, wondering where my car was, or where all my money went. It was an excellent alternative.
Good luck. Find something that takes your mind off of what is bothering you. Preferably something that will allow you the opportunity to stay in shape. Good eating, exercise and enough sleep goes a long way towards staving off depression and anxiety.
Try to leave some time to do things that make you happy or that you enjoy. For example, in order to keep up with the constant stress of life, I surround myself with humor like watching funny things on YouTube. Sometimes, it's just the smallest thing that makes you happy and keeps you going.
Recreational drugs can become a crutch if not careful.
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Mad drugs and running.
rahulekbote, sorry about the lack of response. Maybe one of these topics will help:
Calling relevant professionals! ctrl-alt-del Aura0505 amasters95
I hope those threads give you a bit more insight.
When I'm stressed out, I eat a lot. But on the weekend, I have to go out run or do shopping
Tips for handling Finals Week/stressful periods at work (Originally Posted: 12/04/2016)
As I am in the midst of cramming for finals, I thought that now would be a good time to ask you all for some advice on how you handled finals week in college as well as stressful periods at work now. I have found that the biggest waste of time for me is transition periods such as when I leave the library to go back to my room to change before going for a run. I notice that I usually sit down in the living room and hang out with my roommates for an hour before actually going for a run. Would appreciate any advice on how to be more efficient during busy times.
I've experienced the same thing as you when it comes to running. Wakeup 30 minutes to an hour early depending on how long it takes you to run and shower and run before you start your day - in addition to getting this out of the way I always feel better for the rest of the day working out early. Since it seems like you enjoy working out you might try my strategy of taking pushup breaks between problems, every 5 problems/topics, or just whenever you're feeling unfocused. Gets the blood pumping and if you do this often you'll find yourself doing 200+ pushups a day easy. As far as wasting time, there's no one fix all - just remind yourself of your goals, and how hard you'll need to work, and take care of what you need to. I've told my roommates on multiple instances that I need to study, and not to let me talk to them, watch TV in the living room, etc. Once I even reversed the lock on my door and had them lock me in my room for 5 hours (although that may be extreme).
I suffered major anxiety as a freshman as a result of excessive ecstasy taking at a rave, which led me to thinking I was having a heart attack lol. It was so bad I could early get out of bed to go to lectures and when I did, it felt like there was a huge weight on my chest, stomach pains and cloudy vision. I would strongly recommend staying away from pills, they don' tackle the root of the issue just, sweep the issue under carpet. I started doing a lot of exercise, began rationalising and actually asking myself wtf am I being like this for and developed a method of self control. It's still there in particular if I go on a heavy party bing like ski trips etc. however I developed a mechanism on control and push that shit aside it's about developing metal resilience. also actually a big thing for me was caffeine, it's worth taking a break from coffee as that can be a major root of anxiety. I stayed away from it for a year until I got stuff under control and can now do it. Also I didn't do ecstasy for like 3 years until was at some rave in Brooklyn and stayed away from weed as that shit makes me so paranoid.
How To Not Deal With Stress: The Story of One Chipotle Exec (Originally Posted: 07/09/2016)
Mark Crumpacker, Chipotle’s chief creative and development officer, appeared in New York state court on misdemeanor charges that he bought cocaine 7 times since January. He is accused of being one of 18 “repeat customers” of a cocaine delivery service.
The sad part of the story is that his drug purchases coincide with the worst days of Chipotle’s performance in 2016, which struggled from E.coli and norovirus outbreaks this year. Crumpacker led the marketing for the firm and was the person behind the recent Chiptopia Summer Rewards program.
According to Patrick Doherty, assistant DA, Crumpacker spent almost $3,000 on drug deliveries to his Union Square apartment.
But is this really the way to deal with stress?
Probably not.
Serves the bastard right for spreading all of that non-GMO bullshit.
One would think that blow would not be an effective chemical stress mediation effort anyhow. That's heading in the wrong direction. Alcohol would have been a better plan from the beginning on multiple levels.
I'm long CMG and I'm about ready to join this guy
Just stick to booze.
Just stick to Bombay Sapphire,
Just $3,000 since JANUARY?
The guy should be a priest!
It was more like $3,000 per delivery
How do YOU deal with stress?
Good question. Some things are meant to stay private..
i kill hookers. not the classy ones though. truck stop hookers.
If weed will be legal soon and alcohol is legal why can't this be slippery sloped already to be no big deal
The best way to win the war on drugs? End the war on drugs. Can't believe we waste tax payer dollars investigating/ prosecuting shit like this. All while allowiing cartels their revenue stream and the power that comes with it. Legalize everything.
Cue dozens of fedora-wearing wso nerds flocking to the user whose moniker is "alibabes"
So Ali is for Muhammad Ali (my favorite boxer)...
Give the dood a break, turning a profit from soggy burritos sprinkled with fecal bateria is going to take a bit of creativity for sure
I usually go with the bowl (double meat - chicken & steak) cuz it is always more food. Burrito tortilla or taco tortilla on the side of course.
He should have expensed it
This might require a heightened sense of self awareness but try to genuinely convince yourself that nothing truly matters. For that brief moment, your mind will be put into perspective and you will notice your present issues are really very meaningless in the greater scope of life.
"Life goes on"
Are You Stressed? (Originally Posted: 10/16/2014)
Stress is a truly unpleasant, potentially harmful, and decidedly unavoidable part of life in the business world; it just comes with the territory of climbing the corporate ladder. Yet, whether stress interferes with or facilitates your efforts in that climb depends on how well you understand it, your attitude toward it, and the tools you have at your disposal to master the stress.
This post focuses on the first two contributors to your reaction to stress: your understanding and attitude. Despite its ever-presence in business life and the seemingly ubiquitous stress-management programs offered by so many companies, few business people have a thorough sense of what stress is, how it impacts them physically, psychologically, socially, and in their work efforts, and what they can actually do to ensure that it helps rather than hurts their professional and personal lives.
What is Stress?
Stress is a psychological, emotional, or physical reaction to internal or external demands that the are placed on people. Our stress reaction has been hard wired into us for as long as we have been humans to help us survive. Back when we were cavepeople, the increased heart rate, blood flow, and adrenaline gave us the strength to battle or run from (fight-or-flight response) hostile tribes and wild animals, and stay alive during periods of natural disaster and famine. The reality is though that we rarely face such stress-inducing hardships anymore. Because we aren't attacked by saber-toothed tigers very often these days, the stress we experience in modern times is due more to our perceptions of the experiences we have than the experiences themselves. Nonetheless, stress still does threaten us at a psychological, social, and performance level.
Despite what many think, stress is actually an important and highly adaptive (to a point) response to the challenges that we face every day. Stress helps us respond physically by giving us more energy and endurance when confronted with the often exhausting schedules that businesspeople must keep. Stress also sharpens our thinking and focus for the intellectual demands we face in the business world.
The demands we face and the stress we feel are usually quite manageable. But when the demands grow and they begin to exceed our capabilities and resources to deal with them effectively, then the stress becomes debilitating. Think of the demands that you face in the business world. Internal demands can include the perceptions you hold about your abilities, the goals and expectations you have, and the worries and fears you feel. External demands can consist of time pressure, financial concerns, work conflict, and excessive workloads.
Stress in Perspective
Stress has become so woven into the fabric of the corporate world that many people have lost sight of what it is and what it is not. Stress is a normal part of any environment that is driven by high goals and expectations and, as I noted above, it is usually more helpful than harmful. A mistake that many people make is the confuse hard work with stress. There are two things about hard work that can cause this confusion: hard work is hard and its work. And I think that many business people like to talk about how stressed they are because it makes them feel heroic when, in fact, what they are doing is just the job they signed on for.
Stress goes beyond normal life and hard work when you no longer have the ability to manage it effectively. We all have a threshold we reach when stress turns harmful. When we cross that line, several red flags occur:
When you can check off each of those five items, then you can state with confidence (or trepidation) that you are experiencing debilitating stress.
Causes of Stress
The causes of harmful stress at work are myriad. At the same time, there are some causes that I have found most evidence in the workplace:
Symptoms of Stress
When you've crossed that line past hard work, the stress will cause you to experience a wide variety of symptoms. Because of the direct attack on your mind and body that harmful stress places on you, your stress will manifest itself in a variety of ways:
Types of Stress
Stress can either facilitate or interfere with your work performance based partly on a fundamental distinction in how you perceive the demands placed on you. Specifically, do you interpret the stress as being a threat or a challenge?
Threat stress is usually connected to self-esteem. The demands threaten your sense of competence and value personally and professionally. The demands are not only uncomfortable – all stress is to some degree – but also burdensome. The stress is persistent and often overwhelming. You also feel that you have little control over the stress. And it ultimately leads to either physical or psychological breakdown.
In contrast, challenge stress is seen as affirming your self-esteem; your perception of your ability to handle the stress is actually validating of your competence and value. The stress inspires and motivates you to see the demands as challenges to overcome rather than threats to avoid. Not surprisingly, this mindset reinforces your belief that you have control over the demands and actually energizes you to confront the demands directly. Ultimately, challenge stress raises the level of your "game," enabling you to be more productive.
Approach to Stress
You should think about stress much as you would the thermometer and thermostat in your home. You know when the temperature in your house is comfortable and when it gets too hot. In the latter case, you adjust the thermostat to a more comfortable level. The same applies to your stress level. You know when your stress is at a comfortable level. You also need to recognize when your stress level is too high. When that happens, you need to adjust your stress thermostat, that is, reduce the demands that are causing the stress or increase your resources to mitigate those demands, in both cases, your stress lessens.
You have three choices in how you perceive your ability to respond to the stress you experience:
Your goal, of course, is to become a stress master. In my next post, I'll introduce you to how you can lay the foundation for stress mastery and the specific attitudes and strategies you need to become a stress master.
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Stressed? Join the Club! (Originally Posted: 12/22/2012)
Finals week is awful for anybody in college. For most of us, weeks of procrastination and sleeping in class culminate in a chaotic 7-14 day period of angst and distress. Whether it's reading a 400 page physics textbook in 2 days or writing a 20 page research paper in an afternoon, I've seen my fellow classmates use their fear of failure to accomplish superhuman intellectual feats.
But what happens if this fear isn't cultivated correctly? Aside from adderall abuse, the second thing I see most on my campus during finals is worry. The actual work may be boring and tedious, but it usually boils down to knocking down problem sets akin to cranking widgets. However, the emotions that run through high-achievers minds are what make the week so bad. It's one thing to have to understand the Romer model over a semester. Throw in the possibility of an F and a short deadline, and any semblance of work becomes hell on earth.
I was recently watching a documentary entitled "Stress: Portrait of a Killer" by National Geographic. As the name suggests, the film details the incredible and largely unexpected results that chronic stress can have on our lives. Health issues range from weight gain to disease, and psychologically it takes a toll on your ability to focus, as well as your motivation levels.
There are numerous different ways to deal with stress. Recently, my school hired two professional masseuses to give out free massages to students in the library. Though only lasting about 5 minutes, it was a shocker to discover how much of a difference it made in reinvigorating my motivation to keep grinding out the rote memorization.
I personally love to hit the weights when times are tough. Especially if you're a male, there's nothing better than beating a personal record in the gym and transmuting all that excess energy into physical achievement. If you're a girl, same thing still applies. I've never seen my female friends throw around more weight than in times of high stress.
In an industry like finance, stress levels are especially high and managing them is often a key to success. What are your thoughts on combating stress?
Look at the problem and see how its going to affect you in 5 days, 5 weeks, 5 months. Most of the time it doesn't really matter.
During long periods of studying you get to the point where your mind gets groggy and you find yourself procrastinating and drifting off doing whatever else. When I was in school I always made a point to go to the gym every single day during finals week whenever this happened. It didn't matter if it was morning/afternoon/night--I would go work out, shower, grab some food then get back to hitting the books. Felt amazingly refreshed once I got back. I did this every semester for four years and it worked like a charm.
That being said, I would do ANYTHING to go back to the days when finals week was the biggest worry in my life.
At my school, we have a midnight streaking through the libraries on the first day/night of exams. Crowds actually gather in the library to watch. I guess this is stress release for both parties.
big fan of working out when stressed. i never felt like i had enough time to get in a full 1 or 1.5 hour workout though, so I did a lot of circuit training for 30-45 minutes. Gets your heart rate up, builds muscle, and requires a lot of explosive energy (depending on what exercises you do) that I always found helped get a lot of the pent-up energy and frustration out that came with sitting in a chair for 13 hours straight staring a textbook.
also, if you're musically inclined, pick up a guitar or something and just take a 10 minute break. you can "reward" yourself for reading x number of chapters with 15 minutes of music or something. always helped me.
At the end of every quarter (when targets are due) my desk goes apeshit. No joke. The only thing I do to combat the stress and long hours is to hit the gym after work. Luckily my company has an amazing gym that open till really late (thank you IBD guys).
Taking long walks around campus while listening to awesome music. Helps destress. On the other hand, caffeine intake increases as the days get closer to finals.
Always take short breaks when you've been studying for a couple hours straight. Decreasing returns start happening real quick if you don't do that.
Exercise, nutrition, Jiu Jitsu, constantly improving myself in some way, good sleep, not drinking, sauna, cold exposure
Probably the best, albeit shortest list.
Self loathing and anger usually works for me.
Try out some meditation.
Headspace (mobile app) is a good place to start. You can do 10 free 10 min sessions. General idea is to clear your mind or "create headspace." In doing so you're acknowledging your stresses and anxieties, but not succumbing to them.
I don't think I am stressed and I've been using it. It's great
And if you don't want to spend on Headspace, Sam Harris gives you 2 free meditations based of Vipassana
+1 regarding the meditation.
Also understanding my place in the universe and putting my issues in perspective.
Always keep the macro perspective in mind. Sure, things might suck on a micro-level, i.e. today, this week, this month or even this year. But if you always keep the big picture in mind, and you have something to work towards, then issues on the micro-level will affect you less. So much of the stuff around us, happening right now, is just noise and doesn't matter. Think 1-2-3 years back. How much of the stuff you worried about then, actually materialized and had a real impact on your life? My guess, not much.
Keep grinding and stay positive. Good times will come.
i would recommend no drugs or porn unlike most of the other people on here
you need to get really mad and then kick the shit out of someone or take MMA classes or something similar to that and then you won't be anxious anymore and it really does relieve stress
blow a huge load
Echo what was said about having everything that stresses you out written down in some form or fashion. I have everything that has to happen in my life down to family phone calls written down in my padfolio. Your stress and anxiety levels will be chopped in half. Now you stress on everything that's on that list and has been on that list for too long, but that's a much better problem to have.
My general stress and anxiety is compounded by my obsessive thought patterns. To break these thought patterns and to hit a daily "reset" button, I try to remain in marathon-shape year round by running 3, 5, 7, and 9 mile runs. Working my body to the point of physical exhaustion is my zen. I'm starting to work in Yoga twice a week now to make sure I balance the beating the shit out of myself with the healing and nurturing.
Drinking is only a temporary fix. You're just buying time, that same stress and anxiety will be there when you sober up.
The grass is interesting. Sometimes in life, I don't have the answer to the problem. My obsessive nature tries to solve that same problem thousands of times over with the same, rote way of thinking. Almost every time I "break the glass" and indulge, I am released from the confines of the framework I was using to think about how to solve the problem and I'm flooded with different types of thoughts that were almost trapped in my head somewhere. The come down leaves me with the peace and solace of having action items that I didn't have before on how to solve issues. Great stuff, but I only break the glass when necessary.
Read Seneca, , Musonius Rufus, Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius.
I do really appreciate your help guys, your thoughts and past experience. Really thankful to have found this forum with such amazing ppl!
This is going to sound remarkably simple and almost stupid... but it works. You want to approach your challenges the same way peak performers you will see in the Olympic competitions do. (And I've worked with Olympic contenders and finance people so keep reading...) First, you need to schedule breathers- time to decompress your nervous system that is jacked up by the normal stress chemicals released to deal with competition. While you want that chemical drip to be at the right force to perform at peak levels, we can only walk around at peak levels of this chemical drip before we burn out. Also, when we let our chemistry get to a tsunami force, our performance plummets. It looks like an upside down U. Too little activation of your nervous system and your head isn't focused and in the game. Too much and you are ramped up to play not-to-lose and ramped too tight for your frontal brain to even be in the game. You want to keep you frontal brain in the game. The most recently evolved brain region, the frontal area, is required for peak performance. In the face of high levels of stress chemicals released when we are in rapid heartbeat stress mode, this part of the brain shuts down for business. This ramps us up further- we call it anxiety or stress- and it becomes a vicious cycle. So- the answer is this- breathing in through the nose has been actually proven to keep the frontal brain alight. Clenching your hands into fists, breathing in through your nose and out through your mouth a few times will ratchet down your nervous system and jumpstart your frontal brain. Taking a breather- a break- even if it's a 3 minute walk where you breathe in through your nose will provide relief. And, just as Olympians do, schedule in breaks to let your nervous system decompress and your frontal brain rejoin the game.
Truly inspiring. Thank you so much Doc!
xanax, sex
Download the Calm App on your smartphone and mediate for 15 mins a day or as frequently as possible.
SO I get it I have been stressed with school before back at Uni as well. HOWEVER, and this is only for you to decide: if school stresses you this much to the point of "constant anxiety" maybe consider a less stressful job than banking/pe/whatever because school stress is a menial fraction of the mental fatigue caused by or compared to work stress. That is not to be discouraging. I truly believe anyone can change their perception if they really want to. Perception and attitude are the name of the game. BUT if you don't feel confident that you can do that then consider a different professional path. LIfe is too short to go into a job that will provide you nothing but ulcers and headaches. I saw many ppl in IB who came from good schools and felt, "well it makes sense on paper to do this" but HATED it. As a result, their physical and mental health declined, they made the work environment worse, and their careers maybe would have been better off doing something slightly less intensive. Again, this is not meant to be discouraging. but rather to keep it real. I completely disagree with the comments about substances. It is, in my opinion, a great thing to utilize various substances to enhance certain feelings but being reliant on them as "gear shifters" WILL NOT WORK. There's too much evidence out there for me to waste any more time defending that point. SO in summary take a good long hard in the mirror, realize it is just school and use the "stress" as fuel to commit to massive action in a propulsion to change your overall perception or use college as a great lesson that maybe you have a different stress ceiling and that maybe considering different avenues is the way to go. Either way, swallow the ego and decide this for yourself. This is an anonymous site, I have no idea what you're going through, nor do you for me. I am simply stating what I think would have been nice to hear a while back and or what I think many of my colleagues would have benefited from. Also, and no offense, school isn't easy but it's probably the easiest segment of your life you'll have for a very long time. Try chatting with an MD with a wife and kids, and then notice how calm they are relative to maybe the average person logging 90hrs whilst still being a good dad, husband, etc. It's a different breed in this industry, for better or worse. Either change the perception or change your course. And also, try focusing on the good not the bad for the day. Hey at least you are in college. Hey at least you have an internship. Hey at least you (hopefully) have your health. Enjoy the good times while they're here mate!
Definitely go see a psychiatrist. It is not sustainable to live with stress and anxiety. Maybe try finding a psychiatrist that offers counseling as well. Drugs definitely help. (Prozac is a good example.)
Sleep, meditation, and writing. Sleep is self-explanatory. I think lots of people, especially in finance, tend to write off meditation... until they realize that Ray Dalio attributes much of his success to it. Transcendental Meditation (TM) is particularly useful. If you have the time and cash to go through the course, I'd recommend it. I did so after finishing a Summer Analyst stint and am super grateful for doing it. Writing is huge for reasons similar to keeping a planner. Getting all of the thoughts raddling in your head on paper goes a long way, and generally lessens the "noise" if not silencing it completely. Best of luck.
Deadlift
Somebody I admire once said that as a practice of gratitude and perspective they remind themselves on a daily basis that this is their pre bowel cancer years.
At first I thought it was odd, if not idiotic. But like most good advice its simplicity masks a submerged but weighty truth; in the trenches of every day life its hard to appreciate and acknowledge all that is good until it's been abruptly seized or jeopardized.
Realize it's impossible to know what life has in store, and that someday you might look back on these days fondly. Or in other words, don't wait for bowel cancer to realize that all those years prior, despite the stressors, uncertainty, and work-load were pretty damn good.
First, study nootropics. They are neutraceuticals for cognitive enhancement and anxiety. I would try L-Theanine in the morning, This produces GABA, a very well studied anxiolytic that has little to no side effects. Also try Alpha-GPC to start. Then start stacking. I think non-flush niacin helps, and also magnesium-taurate. There are several magnesiums, but this one has the amino acid with it, and is what i take for stress. L-theanine is also an amino acid. These work pretty good. Study which combinations, dosages, times of day are good for you. Some nootropics help sleep. These are way better than benzos, and they are not addicting, and the don't build tolerances, no withdrawals. Study the literature and science.
Interesting point. I've been using nootropil in order to obtain better study's performance. It works for anxiety as well?
Martial arts - I do muay thai and after stressful days at work it does wonders. hard to add something else to your schedule I realize but even one hour a week on a Saturday will feel pretty good. I was nervous until I jumped in, everyone was cool, and now im 6 - 7 months in and wish I had done it sooner
Agree with the meditation, writing, and exercise points above. Also, being comfortable with the worse case scenario has done wonders for me. If I don't accomplish a certain goal, I know I'll be alright. Look at your past body of work and where you're at today as a source of confidence. You've had to be smart, resilient, and resourceful to get where you're at, no reason for any of that to change through school/work etc.
It's fucking hard. Unbelievably hard at points. I know what you're going through. Take comfort in the fact a lot of people are going through the same situation.
Some people like escapism, like drugs or videogames. I think that isn't very healthy as the problem's still there and if you do solve it, you most likely will still turn to your escape method afterwards.
Something that will make you feel great are friends and family. Talking to somebody over the phone or in person will make you feel a lot better. Those sort of relationships are the things that will make you happy above all else. I don't think I would have got through the difficult moments in my life without my friends and family.
Exercise and meditation are great, healthy hobbies to consider. I find they make me feel great.
I will recommend if you're at a university to consider the university counseling service. It's usually free and or if it's not, cheap. You've got the time now before you start work and it's confidential.
You should feel proud of yourself for sharing your problems. There's a lot of people out there that carry this weight without sharing it while it eats away at them. You're on a good track already, I'm sure you will do well.
Mate, is from ppl like you that we are able to reach an equilibrium. Thanks for sharing, thanks for your time and your advices. I will follow your words word by word. Wish you all the best
Talk to a doctor or a mental health professional.
I’ve always viewed stress as an indicator of uncertainty. For example, if you knew you’d ace the exam, you’d have no stress related to the exam. If you were sure you’d get the internship, you’d have no stress related to the interview...and so on. The existence of stress is a physical manifestation of the uncertainty. To reduce stress in a situation, look for ways to reduce uncertainty. This will work to a certain extent but some uncertainty will always remain since you can never know for certain how events will play out. Ultimately, the realization that the full implications of any event can never be known and that your perceptions of an outcome are purely a figment of your imagination and not consistent with reality will result in a certain level of indifference and detachment to outcomes. When that happens, stress naturally declines.
For example, you may believe that if you don’t get a particular internship your career will be derailed or somehow negatively impacted. The uncertainty of whether you’ll get the internship coupled with this view of the significance of the internship becomes very stressful. But your view of the internship is an illusion. Maybe you get a different internship that is less desirable to you now but it results in a different career path that is better for you in the long run. In real time you simply don’t know the full implications either outcome.
Warren Buffet was really bummed out that he didn’t get into Harvard. That was his first choice. Instead he went to Columbia. At Columbia he met and studied under Ben Graham, and it was this experience that shaped his investment philosophy. I’m sure Buffet would have been very successful had he gone to Harvard but I doubt he’d be the Warren Buffet we know if he wasn’t influenced by Ben Graham while at Columbia. The point is that the reason Buffet was disappointed by not getting into Harvard is because he had a scenario in his mind where going to Harvard was better for him than Columbia. This mental scenario is an illusion and the tendency is to be over confident in its accuracy.
Be nimble...roll with the punches and don’t let your mind mess with you. You will never know the full impact of any event. Put forth your best effort and if things don’t go your way just remember you don’t know how this is all going to end, and maybe plan B is the best thing that could ever happen to you.
Such a story! Very thank you mate, do appreciate your words. All the best
Realize that what you are going through is a temporary circumstance and you will make it! Think about how you will reward yourself when the internship is over.
If it's an internship at a bank, realize that jobs at banks are designed to suck and by the time this internship is over you will have the knowledge to know whether you want to continue that lifestyle or find a new path with less stress. What you're going through is a temporary rite of passage that you will someday reflect on how you made it through and became stronger as a result.
I deal with anxiety quite often, and no matter how much you try you cannot really plan for an anxiety attack. As drugs do help at times it sometimes makes it worse
as @LReed" said up top try planning out your days. Think of meal prep but for task mgmt. Sit down every sunday and plan out your week. What test/ homework needs to be done, what needs to be done for work, appt. Throw it all in a calendar ( fantastical) is what I use. The majority is done and out the way and you can make slight changes throughout the week.
Exercise- weather physical or mental. Run is good but not for all people some use weights. I would also try to meditate.
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