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Do Women Really Earn Less?
 

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BTbanker
      IB
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,340
 
Points)
 on 8/9/12 at 5:00am

This guy does a pretty good job explaining why it seems like women are paid less than men, while in fact, there is little to no wage discrimination between the two.




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jimbob6's picture

This guy has some really good

jimbob6
      IB
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 5:29pm

This guy has some really good points. Liberals hate facts. They'd rather believe they are changing the world with "civil" equality laws which contradict private property laws to make themselves believe they are saints. Even when there is a legitimate issue such as gay discrimination, they would rather have the government do a half-assed job of "solving" the issue than letting the market actually fix the problem properly.

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swagon's picture

When someone try 2 find work,

swagon
      EN
 
(Neanderthal, 2,976
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 5:32pm

When someone try 2 find work, it just so offense to say "oh hey, you a bish? then go wash the dish" Just look at my girl Tyra, she a 5 star bish, own show, fashion mogul, part time HBS certificate in strategery. It's the 2000th century, bishes can do stuff now.

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Cola Coca's picture

Dude's right. Plus, no one

Cola Coca
      O
 
(Orangutan, 321
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 5:42pm

Dude's right. Plus, no one talks about how women dominate certain jobs like nursing and how men can be discriminated against there.

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Human's picture

Finally, now I can make

Human
      PE
 
 
(King Kong, 1,891
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 5:55pm

Finally, now I can make Feminists to shut up. I absolutely hate that "every one dollar a man earns, woman makes 75 cents" argument. Now that argument can finally come to rest. Please Feminists, let's move on the next issue to argue.

"I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

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Disincentivy's picture

He nailed it! Yes, it is

Disincentivy
      VC
 
 
(Gorilla, 712
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 6:29pm

He nailed it! Yes, it is women's fault.

They chose to be social workers and day carers and glitter makers and unicorn feeder, of course they are getting paid less.
I did however find out that a male analyst who is on "my level" and in the same LOB is making about 7K more, so I went to my sector head and demanded more money. It worked.

If you think you are making less, say something about it, if you just like to talk about how victimized and discriminated upon you are, go feed some unicorns.

I may not be on the Jedi Council, but I sure am great with the Force.

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Disincentivy: He nailed it!

Human
      PE
 
 
(King Kong, 1,891
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 6:41pm
Disincentivy:

He nailed it! Yes, it is women's fault.

They chose to be social workers and day carers and glitter makers and unicorn feeder, of course they are getting paid less. I did however find out that a male analyst who is on "my level" and in the same LOB is making about 7K more, so I went to my sector head and demanded more money. It worked.

If you think you are making less, say something about it, if you just like to talk about how victimized and discriminated upon you are, go feed some unicorns.

+SB. Thank you. You are my she-ro, a female hero. Please talk your senses into these women in NYC. T.T

"I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

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JeffSkilling's picture

This is just like the minimum

JeffSkilling
     
 
(King Kong, 1,911
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 7:00pm

This is just like the minimum wage, it will end hurting those the most that it was designed to protect. All it does is make certain labor more expensive. Liberals are fucking stupid.

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In The Flesh's picture

I have yet to see someone

In The Flesh
      HF
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,884
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 7:02pm

I have yet to see someone refute an even more basic counterargument: If you can really pay women so much less, why don't firms only hire women to save money?

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Chocobo's picture

It really is the women's

Chocobo
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 235
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 7:04pm

It really is the women's fault. You can only blame yourself if you prepared for an industry that doesn't pay well. It's shocking to me to see how many of the women from my high school went into humanities, education, nursing & etc. You can't complain about the wages when it's normal for that industry.

It's almost like they are asking to be paid for being a mom...

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Disincentivy's picture

Human: +SB. Thank you. You

Disincentivy
      VC
 
 
(Gorilla, 712
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 7:08pm
Human:

+SB. Thank you. You are my she-ro, a female hero. Please talk your senses into these women in NYC. T.T

If I could, I would actually have female friends instead of being bro-zoned all the god damn time by the male species.

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In The Flesh: I have yet to

BTbanker
      IB
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,340
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 7:13pm
In The Flesh:

I have yet to see someone refute an even more basic counterargument: If you can really pay women so much less, why don't firms only hire women to save money?

That's a good point. I guess someone could come back at that and say, "While women are cheaper to hire than men, they aren't qualified with their liberal arts degrees."

"A man generally has two reasons for doing anything. One that sounds good, and the real one." - J.P. Morgan

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Connor: In The Flesh: I have

Disincentivy
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(Gorilla, 712
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 7:37pm
Connor:
In The Flesh:

I have yet to see someone refute an even more basic counterargument: If you can really pay women so much less, why don't firms only hire women to save money?

That's a good point. I guess someone could come back at that and say, "While women are cheaper to hire than men, they aren't qualified with their liberal arts degrees."

And also, lets exclude the hipsters while at it.

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Disincentivy: Connor: In

BTbanker
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(Senior Neanderthal, 5,340
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 7:40pm
Disincentivy:
Connor:
In The Flesh:

I have yet to see someone refute an even more basic counterargument: If you can really pay women so much less, why don't firms only hire women to save money?

That's a good point. I guess someone could come back at that and say, "While women are cheaper to hire than men, they aren't qualified with their liberal arts degrees."

And also, lets exclude the hipsters while at it.

Hipsters belong at OWS, not WSO.

"A man generally has two reasons for doing anything. One that sounds good, and the real one." - J.P. Morgan

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(No subject)

RagnarDanneskjold
      HF
 
(King Kong, 1,031
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 7:43pm

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Human's picture

I decided to take some heat

Human
      PE
 
 
(King Kong, 1,891
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 7:46pm

I decided to take some heat and post these. I have always thought that there is something wrong with our society on how men are being treated. I wasn't able to articulate it very well until I see these.


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leveredarb's picture

the crux of all of this is

leveredarb
     
 
(King Kong, 1,263
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 8:22pm
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zira's picture

Well, you just simply don't

zira
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 26
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 9:00pm

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it" - Voltaire

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Binary_Bankster's picture

horrible thread

Binary_Bankster
      O
 
(Monkey, 35
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 9:03pm

I'm gonna get that bish some binary
Bishes love binary
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Kind Regards,

Bin_Ban

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swagon: When someone try 2

N.R.G.
     
 
(Orangutan, 296
 
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 on 4/19/12 at 9:27pm
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Working9-5's picture

If you factor in all the

Working9-5
      ST
 
(Gorilla, 614
 
Points)
 on 8/9/12 at 6:01am

CNBC sucks

"This financial crisis is worse than a divorce. I've lost all my money, but the wife is still here." - Client after getting blown up

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UFOinsider's picture

Watching finance tools

UFOinsider
      O
 
(Human, 10,478
 
Points)
 on 8/9/12 at 9:31am

I notice that the older I am the more I sound like Illini Programer

- accountingbyday

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Finametrics's picture

I hope the mangina's of WSO

Finametrics
     
 
(Monkey, 35
 
Points)
 on 8/9/12 at 9:48am
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UFOinsider's picture

I'm getting a little annoyed

UFOinsider
      O
 
(Human, 10,478
 
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 on 8/9/12 at 10:07am

I notice that the older I am the more I sound like Illini Programer

- accountingbyday

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LIBORtarian's picture

UFOinsider: 3. Try doing this

LIBORtarian
      HF
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 8/9/12 at 11:42am
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UFOinsider's picture

.

UFOinsider
      O
 
(Human, 10,478
 
Points)
 on 8/9/12 at 12:01pm

I notice that the older I am the more I sound like Illini Programer

- accountingbyday

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Working9-5: If you factor in

NoTimeForSpace
      IB
 
(Baboon, 172
 
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 on 8/9/12 at 1:47pm
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TNA's picture

As mentioned above, people

TNA
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(Human, 13,711
 
Points)
 on 8/9/12 at 2:44pm

MSF Website
MACC Website
MSF Twitter

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My good friend's a feminist

virtu333
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(Baboon, 128
 
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 on 8/9/12 at 3:23pm
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Throughout the course of

Mr.Saxman
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(Senior Baboon, 247
 
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 on 8/10/12 at 1:34am
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Mr.Saxman: Throughout the

trazer985
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(King Kong, 1,780
 
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We use Web log information to design our Web site, identify popular features, and in similar ways. We do not try to identify individuals from Web logs or to link Web logs to other user information. However, if someone tries to damage our Web site or use it in an unauthorized or illegal way, we may share Web log information with law enforcement agencies. The Company may provide aggregate information such as the number of users who visit particular pages of the site, or the number of people who link to certain external sites from our site, to other parties.

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