Hugo Chavez dead at 58
From the article:
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who went from a young conspiratorial soldier who dreamed of revolution to the fiery anti-U.S. leader of one of the world’s great oil powers, died March 5 in Caracas of complications from an unspecified cancer in his pelvic area."
For all of the international politics junkies out there... specifically those who are interested in emerging markets, what do you all think? I personally thought Chavez was a pos and, although I don't want to celebrate his death, I'm certainly not mourning his loss.
Then again, I'm sure he has some like-minded successor already lined up. Hoping for the best in Venezuela.
He was great for Venezuela and enjoyed great popularity. Given the black and real gold in Venezuela as well as the anti-Western stances, this is certainly worth watching.
He was the worst thing to ever happen to Venezuela....I lived there from 1997-2005 and I saw that country go into decadence
We'll see what happens....
Apparently you missed Perez. I am in no way, shape, or form a proponent of Chavez (mostly due to his support of narcoterrorism and being essentially a dictator). I wouldn't support socialism/communism in the US, but they did it there and it kinda worked for them. On top of that, he gave the people what they wanted, and they brought him back time and again.
You have no idea how much wealth was funneled out during Chavez regime. I grew up wealthy and I can promise you my Venezuelan rich friends are set for life thanks to him.
Essentially this is what happened to the social classes in Venezuela:
Poor: Happier that one of them finally ruled, everything around them much unsafer, apparently comfortable with making lines to get the most basic foods due to shortages.
The Rich: Got friendly with Chavez allies in the respective states, funneled wealth out of the country by being able to buy dollars at the official exchange rate, families live in the US due to safety.
The Middle Class: Ceremoniously screwed in all possible aspects of life.
Case in Point: My maid had to wake up everyday at 3am to make a 2 hour line to be able to buy chicken to make lunch for her kids. Whats fucked was that she was fine with that because 'it was not Chavez' fault, he will fix it'
The misconception of what happens in Venezuela from the eyes of foreigners is huge.....it also gave me the perspective that I don't know shit of what's going on anywhere else in the world and I keep my opinions to myself in those matters.
...this is a joke right
Seems like oil is ready for rally.
I wouldn't bet on oil-- Maduro has been running the government for the past few months now and shares the same anti-Western sentiments. Both of them are giant p*ssies in my opinion.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/02/07/the_end_of_the_latin_a…
When things like this happen I wonder if there is a benevolent God watching over us after all.
the recent deaths of kim jong il and fidel castro are good examples of whats going to happen in venezuela. the man who created the corruption is dead, but his legacy will linger for at least another generation.
Damn right I'm not
Haha I guess you're right. But he did resign office which is no doubt him loosening his grip. which made me think he had died
asked an argentine friend for her opinion / how it's being perceived here
I guess no one wants to ask the important questions: what are Dennis Rodman's thoughts on all this? Is he going over there to calm the stewing crisis?
Chavez dies the same day the Dow hits a record?
Capitalism: 1; Socialism: 0
I have no first-hand experience, but I know a few Venezuelans who moved to the U.S. about 18 months ago. They absolutely and utterly abhor Hugo Chavez. From an outsider and American's perspective, what I saw in Chavez was a man who became a billionaire in 14 years as an elected official*; a man who confiscated property without just cause or compensation; a man who put himself and his movement above the law (which means there was no rule of law); who used public funds as a form of national bribery; a man with no respect for individual libery, freedom of the press, or belief in private property rights; a man who cozied up to other lawless dictators; and a man who somehow served to make the Venezuelan economy even worse than what it was before.
When the law no longer applies to government executives that is when you have a dictatorship. My reaction to his death is mixed--on the one hand his removal from office could not have come sooner; on the other hand, I never celebrate another person's death. There but for the grace of God go I.
*http://newsfromvenezuela.tumblr.com/post/867542155/analyst-estimates-ch…
I have no moral qualms about being glad that another human being is dead so.....YEAH!!! May that fucker roast in the eternal fires of hell.
The most recent election saw the opposition come very close to defeating Chavez (they may have actually done it and Chavez just rigged the election) and I would hope that they are able to win the upcoming special election, but it will take a lot to undo the damage that Chavez has done to the country. Just think about it, Venezuela is so bad that he had to go to Cuba for medical treatment.
EHMs are happy. It's open season again.
He woke up, saw the Dow hit a new record high, and realized that Capitalism will always defeat Socialism...
Gonna be a great night for bar/club owners in miami today.
Not a fan of the man,
But a fan of any person that has the balls to do half of what he did.
A constitutional republic (the US) is not a democracy, it just borrows various democratic principles. Athenian democracy, for example, involved all Athenian male citizens discussing and voting on issues... it just happens that, within the population of Athens male citizens were only a relatively small slice of the total population (women, slaves, non-Athenians, etc).
Fidel is going to be so lonely. He's running out of people to smoke cigars with.
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